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On November 08 2014 07:28 Jaaaaasper wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2014 07:25 Cheren wrote:On November 08 2014 07:22 Jaaaaasper wrote:On November 08 2014 07:20 -Archangel- wrote:On November 08 2014 07:19 Jaaaaasper wrote: This is actually a joke right? They're going to announce the actual non awful expansion after this right? Or that they acquired the command and conquer brand this this is the new version of that? This is terrible. No it is not. It is finally good. Its actually a step down from the game and expansion that ruined the brand, on the bright side the pro scene wont last long enough to really drag the brand through the mud a bit more. let's be real though, you're not the audience, the audience is people who played and liked WoL and left for LoL and Dota. I liked WoL before winfestors, and then I left for Dota. And I'm not coming back for this. Ypu are wrong and you should feel bad
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On November 08 2014 07:29 Ramiz1989 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2014 07:28 Jaaaaasper wrote:On November 08 2014 07:25 Cheren wrote:On November 08 2014 07:22 Jaaaaasper wrote:On November 08 2014 07:20 -Archangel- wrote:On November 08 2014 07:19 Jaaaaasper wrote: This is actually a joke right? They're going to announce the actual non awful expansion after this right? Or that they acquired the command and conquer brand this this is the new version of that? This is terrible. No it is not. It is finally good. Its actually a step down from the game and expansion that ruined the brand, on the bright side the pro scene wont last long enough to really drag the brand through the mud a bit more. let's be real though, you're not the audience, the audience is people who played and liked WoL and left for LoL and Dota. I liked WoL before winfestors, and then I left for Dota. And I'm not coming back for this. Good, Starcraft needs less, not more whining people. Sc2 needs more people in general. Starcraft needs sc2 to be declared non canon asap.
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If the new units will be like this in the final version, i`m so gonna main zerg :o
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On November 08 2014 07:27 paralleluniverse wrote: I'm glad their trying to make the game more dynamic with more action. The early game of SC2 is quite boring at the moment.
But I'm annoyed there still won't be in-game streaming and spectating, like Dota 2. Now we will likely never seen this feature, which sucks majorly.
Early game is definitely not boring. Harassment in early game is good, all-ins every game are not.
I am not happy with this change, Blizzard made a lot of progress balancing the game with the basic mechanics as they are, and changing something as huge as this sounds like we'll just be reset to the beginning of WoL.
I am pretty happy with the unit changes though, everyone gets stronger options geared towards offense in the mid/late game. No more zerg turtling behind spines and free units for hours.
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On November 08 2014 07:32 Striker.superfreunde wrote: If the new units will be like this in the final version
They won't. Wait for beta.
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On November 08 2014 07:24 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2014 07:23 Sapphire.lux wrote:On November 08 2014 07:21 [PkF] Wire wrote:On November 08 2014 07:20 MysteryMeat1 wrote: Overall looks really cool, love how its a standalone, probably gonna buff gateway ground units, 8 second warpins with 200% dmg seems kind of ridiculous, like imagine a zergling runby, warping in a zealot and having it die in half a second lol. Ha ha yeah... I guess a lot of tweaking is still needed. So now you have units already in position like Terran and Zerg. You know, think ahead. It's not just that, warp ins at the last second (and not only in walls) was quite awesome sometimes and 200% damage taken could take out a lot of the efficiency. Anyway I'm a horrible player so in the end I'll just get what pros think is suitable and I'll deal with it. I think that things like this, the Immortal change, the new unit, the new WP, are things that will reward good control and preparation, something Protoss really needed.
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The idea that everything seems overpowered is brilliant.
Of course, if everything is equally overpowered, then nothing really is.
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On November 08 2014 07:32 Banchan wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2014 07:27 paralleluniverse wrote: I'm glad their trying to make the game more dynamic with more action. The early game of SC2 is quite boring at the moment.
But I'm annoyed there still won't be in-game streaming and spectating, like Dota 2. Now we will likely never seen this feature, which sucks majorly. Early game is definitely not boring. Harassment in early game is good, all-ins every game are not. I am not happy with this change, Blizzard made a lot of progress balancing the game with the basic mechanics as they are, and changing something as huge as this sounds like we'll just be reset to the beginning of WoL.
It's a reset, which could be great but also throw everything apart into SC2 dying. Blizzard seems willing to go all-in on that one.
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On November 08 2014 07:28 Jaaaaasper wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2014 07:25 Cheren wrote:On November 08 2014 07:22 Jaaaaasper wrote:On November 08 2014 07:20 -Archangel- wrote:On November 08 2014 07:19 Jaaaaasper wrote: This is actually a joke right? They're going to announce the actual non awful expansion after this right? Or that they acquired the command and conquer brand this this is the new version of that? This is terrible. No it is not. It is finally good. Its actually a step down from the game and expansion that ruined the brand, on the bright side the pro scene wont last long enough to really drag the brand through the mud a bit more. let's be real though, you're not the audience, the audience is people who played and liked WoL and left for LoL and Dota. I liked WoL before winfestors, and then I left for Dota. And I'm not coming back for this.
Always judge a book by its cover. Always.
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On November 08 2014 07:32 Jaaaaasper wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2014 07:29 Ramiz1989 wrote:On November 08 2014 07:28 Jaaaaasper wrote:On November 08 2014 07:25 Cheren wrote:On November 08 2014 07:22 Jaaaaasper wrote:On November 08 2014 07:20 -Archangel- wrote:On November 08 2014 07:19 Jaaaaasper wrote: This is actually a joke right? They're going to announce the actual non awful expansion after this right? Or that they acquired the command and conquer brand this this is the new version of that? This is terrible. No it is not. It is finally good. Its actually a step down from the game and expansion that ruined the brand, on the bright side the pro scene wont last long enough to really drag the brand through the mud a bit more. let's be real though, you're not the audience, the audience is people who played and liked WoL and left for LoL and Dota. I liked WoL before winfestors, and then I left for Dota. And I'm not coming back for this. Good, Starcraft needs less, not more whining people. Sc2 needs more people in general. Starcraft needs sc2 to be declared non canon asap. You need to stop being a negative prick. Go back tot dota of you're only here to piss on our parade...
A lot of people like this. I think it's great!
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hmmmm as a terran player im ?unimpressed? not sure what word to use really not compared to the other races with the luker and oracle mines, terrans units are very idk boring lame idk not sure how i feel obv its still like alpha and things will change but not a fan so far of terran the rest Omg cant wait.
edit so ppl dont think im a debbie downer im super hyped for LOTV and cant wait i really like everything just not sure about the two units terrans get, there odd to me not bad i just like the other races units and changes, and im a terran elitist and this makes me really really want to play z and p lol.
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On November 08 2014 07:33 SC2Toastie wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2014 07:32 Jaaaaasper wrote:On November 08 2014 07:29 Ramiz1989 wrote:On November 08 2014 07:28 Jaaaaasper wrote:On November 08 2014 07:25 Cheren wrote:On November 08 2014 07:22 Jaaaaasper wrote:On November 08 2014 07:20 -Archangel- wrote:On November 08 2014 07:19 Jaaaaasper wrote: This is actually a joke right? They're going to announce the actual non awful expansion after this right? Or that they acquired the command and conquer brand this this is the new version of that? This is terrible. No it is not. It is finally good. Its actually a step down from the game and expansion that ruined the brand, on the bright side the pro scene wont last long enough to really drag the brand through the mud a bit more. let's be real though, you're not the audience, the audience is people who played and liked WoL and left for LoL and Dota. I liked WoL before winfestors, and then I left for Dota. And I'm not coming back for this. Good, Starcraft needs less, not more whining people. Sc2 needs more people in general. Starcraft needs sc2 to be declared non canon asap. A lot of people like this
We need a poll. The ideas are good but overall I'm far from enthusiastic.
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On November 08 2014 07:33 paralleluniverse wrote: The idea that everything seems overpowered is brilliant.
Of course, if everything is equally overpowered, then nothing really is.
This has me the most excited of everything. I saw the Terran video and said "that looks OP, no way that's making it in." By the time I saw all three videos, my opinion changed to "they all look OP. Maybe this will balance out. That's awesome!"
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On November 08 2014 07:32 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2014 07:32 Striker.superfreunde wrote: If the new units will be like this in the final version They won't. Wait for beta.
Yep, that better had been a big written IF one my side
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On November 08 2014 07:32 Jaaaaasper wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2014 07:29 Ramiz1989 wrote:On November 08 2014 07:28 Jaaaaasper wrote:On November 08 2014 07:25 Cheren wrote:On November 08 2014 07:22 Jaaaaasper wrote:On November 08 2014 07:20 -Archangel- wrote:On November 08 2014 07:19 Jaaaaasper wrote: This is actually a joke right? They're going to announce the actual non awful expansion after this right? Or that they acquired the command and conquer brand this this is the new version of that? This is terrible. No it is not. It is finally good. Its actually a step down from the game and expansion that ruined the brand, on the bright side the pro scene wont last long enough to really drag the brand through the mud a bit more. let's be real though, you're not the audience, the audience is people who played and liked WoL and left for LoL and Dota. I liked WoL before winfestors, and then I left for Dota. And I'm not coming back for this. Good, Starcraft needs less, not more whining people. Sc2 needs more people in general. Starcraft needs sc2 to be declared non canon asap. Please stop posting in this thread if you're going to keep this up.
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On November 08 2014 07:33 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2014 07:32 Banchan wrote:On November 08 2014 07:27 paralleluniverse wrote: I'm glad their trying to make the game more dynamic with more action. The early game of SC2 is quite boring at the moment.
But I'm annoyed there still won't be in-game streaming and spectating, like Dota 2. Now we will likely never seen this feature, which sucks majorly. Early game is definitely not boring. Harassment in early game is good, all-ins every game are not. I am not happy with this change, Blizzard made a lot of progress balancing the game with the basic mechanics as they are, and changing something as huge as this sounds like we'll just be reset to the beginning of WoL. It's a reset, which could be great but also throw everything apart into SC2 dying. Blizzard seems willing to go all-in on that one.
A reset is not always a bad thing, but I really don't want to wait 2 years to play lategame.
I don't see why blizzard refuses to change warpgate but thinks dumping the entire econ game on its head is OK.
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On November 08 2014 04:46 lolfail9001 wrote: Is it April 1st Blizzard time or something? Because half of those changes totally look like they will be scrapped before open beta even hits us.
Also, just noticed first 2 changes. Wait, really, what the fuck, are they seriously inviting terrans to 12-12 every game from now on (same applies to 12 gate and 12 pool too, 2 rax is just more famous).
Bingo.
But I must say, I'm really excited for these changes compared to the ones I saw for HOTS. I stopped playing HOTS soon after release, but these changes are good, and add meaningfully to all races.
One critique for Blizzard is that they really want to encourage drop harass and I don't understand the fixation with it.
Early game is definitely not boring. Harassment in early game is good, all-ins every game are not.
I disagree, HOTS ruined SC2 early game. The Nexus cannon is too strong, too many all-ins were gimped, and macro games took charge.
What I really liked about WOL is that there were so many ways to play the game, from Gaulzi cannon rushing everyone and Namhcir's double starports to Idra's extreme macro.
The game has become much more standard, and variety is good, not bad.
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On November 08 2014 07:34 CakeSauc3 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2014 07:33 paralleluniverse wrote: The idea that everything seems overpowered is brilliant.
Of course, if everything is equally overpowered, then nothing really is. This has me the most excited of everything. I saw the Terran video and said "that looks OP, no way that's making it in." By the time I saw all three videos, my opinion changed to "they all look OP. Maybe this will balance out. That's awesome!"
I don't believe in the OP fights OP fights OP thing like at all. I guess we'll just wait and see but I don't think this approach can yield anything sound.
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On November 08 2014 07:34 starslayer wrote: hmmmm as a terran player im ?unimpressed? not sure what word to use really not compared to the other races with the luker and oracle mines, terrans units are very idk boring lame idk not sure how i feel obv its still like alpha and things will change but not a fan so far of terran the rest Omg cant wait.
I can't wait to do insane tank/medivac micro. Am really excited to try the new Bio composition vs ling/bling. And I have a whole new reason to do a BC rush now
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The new units mean rather litttle. Ton of them wont make it in the game.
Economy change is interesting and cool, but I am skeptical with the 12 worker start. Hope that they go a bit lower.
Only disappointing thing is the lack of new toss things. Hoped for more cool stuff ala Blink Stalkers
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