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Blizzard announces 2015 WCS changes - Page 3

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Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
October 31 2014 23:04 GMT
#41
Well then...I was happy to see big changes after year one, but it sucks that the biggest tournament series in Starcraft is turning into a long term experiment. They really need to nail something down
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
October 31 2014 23:04 GMT
#42
Wow... this is... this is something. I guess all that bitching about how easy premier is gonna be was for nothing. I'm not sure how I feel about this.
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
October 31 2014 23:05 GMT
#43
On November 01 2014 08:04 Yorkie wrote:
Well then...I was happy to see big changes after year one, but it sucks that the biggest tournament series in Starcraft is turning into a long term experiment. They really need to nail something down


They need to nail something when it's good enough, not rush and settle on something that isn't good.
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
October 31 2014 23:05 GMT
#44
On November 01 2014 07:58 stevethemacguy wrote:
Does this mean that only 2 players from Korea can now participate in WCS or is does this graphic only apply to the new "unified" NA/Europe premier league? (i.e. do the top 16 in WCS points still goto the WCS Global Finals?)

Korea runs entirely independent of whatever the unified WCS does.
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Pontius Pirate
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United States1557 Posts
October 31 2014 23:05 GMT
#45
While this would make sense as a Foreigner League, the allowance of some Koreans with seniority ultimately ruin it as a WCS World-outside-of-Korea tourney. I hope Copa America gets expanded upon in order to compensate.
"I had to close the door so my parents wouldn't judge me." - ZombieGrub during the ShitfaceTradeTV stream
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18589 Posts
October 31 2014 23:06 GMT
#46
The one problem this will have is that EU ladder will lose a lot of skilled players no?
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8159 Posts
October 31 2014 23:06 GMT
#47
RIP foreigners..
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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
October 31 2014 23:06 GMT
#48
Nice, but I don't understand why there are so many different regional qualifiers.

I mean Europe, Africa and the middle east are put together because I guess the players on these regions tend to play on EU anyways. But why seperating North America and Latin America and what about South America aren't they also playing on the same server? Likewise, why seperating Taiwan and SEA (in fact, I would also merge China into that region even though they have dedicated servers)?
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-31 23:09:40
October 31 2014 23:07 GMT
#49
What the fuck

THIS IS A DISASTER

So basically instead of 1 korean league and 2 global leagues, we have 1 global league and 2 korean leagues...

I thought the rework was supposed to improve things for foreigners -.-
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 31 2014 23:08 GMT
#50
RIP Root house practice.
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Faefae
Profile Joined June 2014
2203 Posts
October 31 2014 23:08 GMT
#51
On November 01 2014 08:03 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2014 08:00 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On November 01 2014 07:58 stevethemacguy wrote:
Does this mean that only 2 players from Korea can now participate in WCS or is does this graphic only apply to the new "unified" NA/Europe premier league?


San/Leenock/PartinG if they want to participate here and not in GSL can qualify through Taiwan, MC, MMA, ForGG, mYi, GEM guys and some else can play in EU with work visas and Polt/viOlet with arguably SuperNova and for Hydra for NA.


I'm reasonably sure most of those will have to return to Korea. I know at least ForGG has to.

How do you know? is it confirmed ?
ForGG. 29/11/2014
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
October 31 2014 23:08 GMT
#52
Oh boy, this is exciting.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
October 31 2014 23:08 GMT
#53
On November 01 2014 08:05 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2014 08:04 Yorkie wrote:
Well then...I was happy to see big changes after year one, but it sucks that the biggest tournament series in Starcraft is turning into a long term experiment. They really need to nail something down


They need to nail something when it's good enough, not rush and settle on something that isn't good.

How many more years do you think they have to kick ideas around? WCS works. It is already "good enough." Sure improvements can be made, like the region locking. But these changes are more than improvements, it's a complete overhaul. This game is not in a stage where we can say "Well by 2018 the system will be amazing."
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
October 31 2014 23:09 GMT
#54
Damn, one global premier league, was not expecting that one. I have no idea what this will be like until we see it in action so I'm optimistic, I'm really curious to see if we can have some foreign representation in the Korean Starleagues. I'm not sure if I like the drastic change but its what Blizzard and co. believe will work, so we will just have to see.
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18589 Posts
October 31 2014 23:09 GMT
#55
On November 01 2014 08:08 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2014 08:05 Zealously wrote:
On November 01 2014 08:04 Yorkie wrote:
Well then...I was happy to see big changes after year one, but it sucks that the biggest tournament series in Starcraft is turning into a long term experiment. They really need to nail something down


They need to nail something when it's good enough, not rush and settle on something that isn't good.

How many more years do you think they have to kick ideas around? WCS works. It is already "good enough." Sure improvements can be made, like the region locking. But these changes are more than improvements, it's a complete overhaul. This game is not in a stage where we can say "Well by 2018 the system will be amazing."


This game is also not in a stage where we can say "lets keep the status quo for now" because viewerships are dropping like crazy
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
October 31 2014 23:11 GMT
#56
On November 01 2014 08:08 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2014 08:05 Zealously wrote:
On November 01 2014 08:04 Yorkie wrote:
Well then...I was happy to see big changes after year one, but it sucks that the biggest tournament series in Starcraft is turning into a long term experiment. They really need to nail something down


They need to nail something when it's good enough, not rush and settle on something that isn't good.

How many more years do you think they have to kick ideas around? WCS works. It is already "good enough." Sure improvements can be made, like the region locking. But these changes are more than improvements, it's a complete overhaul. This game is not in a stage where we can say "Well by 2018 the system will be amazing."

I see this as a clear improvement and I have no idea why you would argue against a clear improvement. It sucks that they didn't do this from the beginning, but not sure what the point is of repeating that over and over.
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TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
October 31 2014 23:11 GMT
#57
I fear that premier will be just full of koreans as there are only 32 spots...
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ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
October 31 2014 23:11 GMT
#58
This is such a good idea .
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
October 31 2014 23:11 GMT
#59
lol, desrow already crying about it on reddit.

"The format will be successful viewership wise but it's taking so much money away from supporting EU and NA players. Maybe they'll rework the prize distribution for challenger league?
I know some NA LoL teams were interested in sc2 when the Koreans being pushed out was announced but now the way it will work I think their interest is gonna fade away once again."

Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 31 2014 23:12 GMT
#60
This is great for spectators, WCS foreign-land will be watchable now.
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