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Blizzard announces 2015 WCS changes - Page 2

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Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12247 Posts
October 31 2014 22:53 GMT
#21
How strict exactly are the new visa requirements?
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iHirO
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1381 Posts
October 31 2014 22:54 GMT
#22
Will these changes create any incentives for foreigners to go compete in korea now?
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Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
October 31 2014 22:55 GMT
#23
On November 01 2014 07:49 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2014 07:46 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
On November 01 2014 07:45 Cheren wrote:
On November 01 2014 07:45 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I dont know. WCS NA and WCS EU in same? That kind of sucks...
32 players in premier, so that means 32 premier spots less than now. That sucks


Same amount of offline games, though.

But less premier spots. Less money for pros


There is no more or less money going out to the players than before as I understand it.

How does this work with 32 less spots that have prize money (presumably)?
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 31 2014 22:55 GMT
#24
I may have liked it if they had expanded more if they had increased Premier to more players as there are a bit too few for countries beyond EU and NA. I'm not certain it would work out logistically though, so maybe not.

Overall I like it.
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Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
October 31 2014 22:56 GMT
#25
holy shit
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DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
October 31 2014 22:58 GMT
#26
"Eligibility for non-Citizens: If the player is a foreign resident of an eligible country for the WCS Premier League, the player must submit a copy of their passport along with a valid resident visa for the eligible country for an evaluation of their residency status. The visa must be acquired before the start of the qualifiers and is only considered valid if it allows the player to stay in the region, work in the region, and earn prize money in the region."

So in laymans terms, does this mean the EU koreans have to go back to Korea?
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sashkata
Profile Joined September 2008
Bulgaria3241 Posts
October 31 2014 22:58 GMT
#27
I love it!
stevethemacguy
Profile Joined September 2008
United States137 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-31 23:00:15
October 31 2014 22:58 GMT
#28
Does this mean that only 2 players from Korea can now participate in WCS or is does this graphic only apply to the new "unified" NA/Europe premier league? (i.e. do the top 16 in WCS points still goto the WCS Global Finals?)
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-31 23:00:18
October 31 2014 22:59 GMT
#29
On November 01 2014 07:55 Conti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2014 07:49 Zealously wrote:
On November 01 2014 07:46 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
On November 01 2014 07:45 Cheren wrote:
On November 01 2014 07:45 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I dont know. WCS NA and WCS EU in same? That kind of sucks...
32 players in premier, so that means 32 premier spots less than now. That sucks


Same amount of offline games, though.

But less premier spots. Less money for pros


There is no more or less money going out to the players than before as I understand it.

How does this work with 32 less spots that have prize money (presumably)?


From what I heard, the total prize money will be a combination of what previously went into both regions. Obviously this means that less people will get money each season, but it will also mean that getting into Challenger/Premier will provide you with twice as large (roughly) a paycheck. With the turnover rate in top Challenger/low Premier, I don't think this will change too much.

Also, keep in mind that the Koreans that previously occupied slots no longer do.
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Abradix1
Profile Joined November 2012
Netherlands609 Posts
October 31 2014 22:59 GMT
#30
This is...Unexpected.

4 groups played in the US vs 4 in Cologne also seems like a weird solution to me, I suppose ESL America was created for WCS AM and it would be shitty to abandon them now, but is this really a better way to go about it?
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
October 31 2014 23:00 GMT
#31
On November 01 2014 07:59 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2014 07:55 Conti wrote:
On November 01 2014 07:49 Zealously wrote:
On November 01 2014 07:46 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
On November 01 2014 07:45 Cheren wrote:
On November 01 2014 07:45 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I dont know. WCS NA and WCS EU in same? That kind of sucks...
32 players in premier, so that means 32 premier spots less than now. That sucks


Same amount of offline games, though.

But less premier spots. Less money for pros


There is no more or less money going out to the players than before as I understand it.

How does this work with 32 less spots that have prize money (presumably)?


From what I heard, the total prize money will be a combination of what previously went into both regions. Obviously this means that less people will get money each season, but it will also mean that getting into Challenger/Premier will provide you with twice as large (roughly) a paycheck. With the turnover rate in top Challenger/low Premier, I don't think this will change too much.

Well, not problem for NA since they dont have alot players But for EU
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SNSeigifried
Profile Joined April 2013
United States1640 Posts
October 31 2014 23:00 GMT
#32
Okay so from what i see we will now have HyuN/MC/YoDa/First/jjakji/StarDust/Sacsri/violet/Polt/ForGG/Hydra/SuperNova into this unified WCS
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oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-31 23:01:54
October 31 2014 23:00 GMT
#33
On November 01 2014 07:58 stevethemacguy wrote:
Does this mean that only 2 players from Korea can now participate in WCS or is does this graphic only apply to the new "unified" NA/Europe premier league?


San/Leenock/PartinG if they want to participate here and not in GSL can qualify through Taiwan, MC, MMA, ForGG, mYi, GEM guys and some else can play in EU with work visas and Polt/viOlet with arguably SuperNova and for Hydra for NA.
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Faefae
Profile Joined June 2014
2203 Posts
October 31 2014 23:00 GMT
#34
On November 01 2014 07:53 Teoita wrote:
How strict exactly are the new visa requirements?

Yeah i wonder... earlier i saw a thread on reddit saying that forgg would not be able to keep playing in WCS EU ? that would be fucked up, the guy is living in germany since 2 years... He just went back like 2 or 3 times to korea for a month to see his family and such
Otherwise that looks cool! I'm looking forward to this.. Wonder how the NA/EU balance will be ? I think the best na pro are close to the best eu pros skillwise
ForGG. 29/11/2014
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
October 31 2014 23:01 GMT
#35
"Participants are required to play all tournaments and ladder games from the country listed on the account during the tournament season. Blizzard will check IP connections at its discretion."

No more farming Korean ladder for practice if you aren't in the GSL or SpoTV League.
KT FlaSh FOREVER
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 31 2014 23:01 GMT
#36
On November 01 2014 08:00 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2014 07:59 Zealously wrote:
On November 01 2014 07:55 Conti wrote:
On November 01 2014 07:49 Zealously wrote:
On November 01 2014 07:46 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
On November 01 2014 07:45 Cheren wrote:
On November 01 2014 07:45 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I dont know. WCS NA and WCS EU in same? That kind of sucks...
32 players in premier, so that means 32 premier spots less than now. That sucks


Same amount of offline games, though.

But less premier spots. Less money for pros


There is no more or less money going out to the players than before as I understand it.

How does this work with 32 less spots that have prize money (presumably)?


From what I heard, the total prize money will be a combination of what previously went into both regions. Obviously this means that less people will get money each season, but it will also mean that getting into Challenger/Premier will provide you with twice as large (roughly) a paycheck. With the turnover rate in top Challenger/low Premier, I don't think this will change too much.

Well, not problem for NA since they dont have alot players But for EU


China and Taiwan have too few spots too. I'm not sure about Sea beyond Iaguz, Petreaus, Pig and KingKong since I dont follow it as close as the others.
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Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-31 23:03:36
October 31 2014 23:02 GMT
#37
On November 01 2014 08:00 SNSeigifried wrote:
Okay so from what i see we will now have HyuN/MC/YoDa/First/jjakji/StarDust/Sacsri/violet/Polt/ForGG/Hydra/SuperNova into this unified WCS

To my best knowledge the majority of those guys (except Polt/Violet) are on working holiday visas and would never be eligible for a regular work visa.
On November 01 2014 08:00 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2014 07:58 stevethemacguy wrote:
Does this mean that only 2 players from Korea can now participate in WCS or is does this graphic only apply to the new "unified" NA/Europe premier league?


San/Leenock/PartinG if they want to participate here and not in GSL can qualify through Taiwan, MC, MMA, ForGG, mYi, GEM guys and some else can play in EU with work visas and Polt/viOlet with arguably SuperNova and for Hydra for NA.

Again same thing here.
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
October 31 2014 23:03 GMT
#38
On November 01 2014 08:00 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2014 07:58 stevethemacguy wrote:
Does this mean that only 2 players from Korea can now participate in WCS or is does this graphic only apply to the new "unified" NA/Europe premier league?


San/Leenock/PartinG if they want to participate here and not in GSL can qualify through Taiwan, MC, MMA, ForGG, mYi, GEM guys and some else can play in EU with work visas and Polt/viOlet with arguably SuperNova and for Hydra for NA.


I'm reasonably sure most of those will have to return to Korea. I know at least ForGG has to.
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Faefae
Profile Joined June 2014
2203 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-31 23:04:44
October 31 2014 23:04 GMT
#39
On November 01 2014 08:02 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2014 08:00 SNSeigifried wrote:
Okay so from what i see we will now have HyuN/MC/YoDa/First/jjakji/StarDust/Sacsri/violet/Polt/ForGG/Hydra/SuperNova into this unified WCS

To my best knowledge the majority of those guys are on working holiday visas and would never be eligible for a regular work visa.
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2014 08:00 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On November 01 2014 07:58 stevethemacguy wrote:
Does this mean that only 2 players from Korea can now participate in WCS or is does this graphic only apply to the new "unified" NA/Europe premier league?


San/Leenock/PartinG if they want to participate here and not in GSL can qualify through Taiwan, MC, MMA, ForGG, mYi, GEM guys and some else can play in EU with work visas and Polt/viOlet with arguably SuperNova and for Hydra for NA.

Again same thing here.

Yes indeed, all of the koreans living in germany have a holiday visas (super easy to have with a german-korean agreement)
ForGG. 29/11/2014
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
October 31 2014 23:04 GMT
#40
On November 01 2014 08:01 Lunareste wrote:
"Participants are required to play all tournaments and ladder games from the country listed on the account during the tournament season. Blizzard will check IP connections at its discretion."

No more farming Korean ladder for practice if you aren't in the GSL or SpoTV League.

"the country listed on the account" i doubt blizz is going to prevent anyone from having a KR account
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