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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
November 03 2014 17:05 GMT
#561
On November 04 2014 01:45 Deathstar wrote:
I remember watching avilo goi bio yesterday on stream. he smells the money and he's adapting from ladder warrior to wcs competitor.
same should be going on everywhere

Hahahahahahahahahaha
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Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
November 03 2014 17:08 GMT
#562
rip passion
cpower
Profile Joined October 2013
228 Posts
November 03 2014 18:04 GMT
#563
This needs to be nationality locked.
Otherwise Polt and a few koreans win every time. Make it a foreigner event!
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
November 03 2014 18:22 GMT
#564
On November 04 2014 03:04 cpower wrote:
This needs to be nationality locked.
Otherwise Polt and a few koreans win every time. Make it a foreigner event!

a bit harsh no? I can imagine that Polt, Violet and Balloon stay in America after esport-career. As far I know only these 3 can attend unified WCS.
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vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-03 18:24:53
November 03 2014 18:24 GMT
#565
On November 04 2014 01:45 Deathstar wrote:
I remember watching avilo goi bio yesterday on stream. he smells the money and he's adapting from ladder warrior to wcs competitor.
same should be going on everywhere


LOOOOOL.

On November 04 2014 03:22 Dingodile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2014 03:04 cpower wrote:
This needs to be nationality locked.
Otherwise Polt and a few koreans win every time. Make it a foreigner event!

a bit harsh no? I can imagine that Polt, Violet and Balloon stay in America after esport-career. As far I know only these 3 can attend unified WCS.


Balloon moved back to KR.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-03 18:41:27
November 03 2014 18:29 GMT
#566
On November 04 2014 03:04 cpower wrote:
This needs to be nationality locked.
Otherwise Polt and a few koreans win every time. Make it a foreigner event!

Yeah, let's ruin the lives of the few Koreans who actually live and study in EU/AM countries by forcing them to play in KR, with all the flight costs etc that are involved

On November 04 2014 03:24 vult wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2014 03:22 Dingodile wrote:
On November 04 2014 03:04 cpower wrote:
This needs to be nationality locked.
Otherwise Polt and a few koreans win every time. Make it a foreigner event!

a bit harsh no? I can imagine that Polt, Violet and Balloon stay in America after esport-career. As far I know only these 3 can attend unified WCS.


Balloon moved back to KR.

Are you telling me he won't play in UWCS next year? D:
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goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3548 Posts
November 03 2014 20:53 GMT
#567
On November 04 2014 03:22 Dingodile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2014 03:04 cpower wrote:
This needs to be nationality locked.
Otherwise Polt and a few koreans win every time. Make it a foreigner event!

a bit harsh no? I can imagine that Polt, Violet and Balloon stay in America after esport-career. As far I know only these 3 can attend unified WCS.

These are not the only 3 that will be playing in unified WCS. I know of at least 3 more koreans which will be playing in NA region, and about 4-5 koreans at least will be in the EU region.
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
Faefae
Profile Joined June 2014
2203 Posts
November 03 2014 20:54 GMT
#568
On November 04 2014 05:53 goswser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2014 03:22 Dingodile wrote:
On November 04 2014 03:04 cpower wrote:
This needs to be nationality locked.
Otherwise Polt and a few koreans win every time. Make it a foreigner event!

a bit harsh no? I can imagine that Polt, Violet and Balloon stay in America after esport-career. As far I know only these 3 can attend unified WCS.

These are not the only 3 that will be playing in unified WCS. I know of at least 3 more koreans which will be playing in NA region, and about 4-5 koreans at least will be in the EU region.

Who are they?
ForGG. 29/11/2014
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-03 21:01:45
November 03 2014 21:00 GMT
#569
On November 04 2014 05:53 goswser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2014 03:22 Dingodile wrote:
On November 04 2014 03:04 cpower wrote:
This needs to be nationality locked.
Otherwise Polt and a few koreans win every time. Make it a foreigner event!

a bit harsh no? I can imagine that Polt, Violet and Balloon stay in America after esport-career. As far I know only these 3 can attend unified WCS.

These are not the only 3 that will be playing in unified WCS. I know of at least 3 more koreans which will be playing in NA region, and about 4-5 koreans at least will be in the EU region.


How certain is this? Because as I'm sure you know, Balloon went back to Korea, and given what others have said about the difficulty of acquiring visas (none of the players currently in the EU region have proper ones) by ESL officials, I find it hard to believe 5 could acquire the visas they need within the timeframe.
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BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
November 03 2014 21:27 GMT
#570
On November 04 2014 06:00 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2014 05:53 goswser wrote:
On November 04 2014 03:22 Dingodile wrote:
On November 04 2014 03:04 cpower wrote:
This needs to be nationality locked.
Otherwise Polt and a few koreans win every time. Make it a foreigner event!

a bit harsh no? I can imagine that Polt, Violet and Balloon stay in America after esport-career. As far I know only these 3 can attend unified WCS.

These are not the only 3 that will be playing in unified WCS. I know of at least 3 more koreans which will be playing in NA region, and about 4-5 koreans at least will be in the EU region.


How certain is this? Because as I'm sure you know, Balloon went back to Korea, and given what others have said about the difficulty of acquiring visas (none of the players currently in the EU region have proper ones) by ESL officials, I find it hard to believe 5 could acquire the visas they need within the timeframe.


Yet others have mentioned that it is not so hard to get a working visa in e.g. Germany as long as you have a job. Maybe it is just a matter of providing a proper contract?
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-03 21:30:05
November 03 2014 21:29 GMT
#571
On November 04 2014 03:29 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2014 03:04 cpower wrote:
This needs to be nationality locked.
Otherwise Polt and a few koreans win every time. Make it a foreigner event!

Yeah, let's ruin the lives of the few Koreans who actually live and study in EU/AM countries by forcing them to play in KR, with all the flight costs etc that are involved


If you are a student you should pay attention to your professor, not SC2!
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
November 03 2014 21:29 GMT
#572
On November 04 2014 06:27 BaneRiders wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2014 06:00 Zealously wrote:
On November 04 2014 05:53 goswser wrote:
On November 04 2014 03:22 Dingodile wrote:
On November 04 2014 03:04 cpower wrote:
This needs to be nationality locked.
Otherwise Polt and a few koreans win every time. Make it a foreigner event!

a bit harsh no? I can imagine that Polt, Violet and Balloon stay in America after esport-career. As far I know only these 3 can attend unified WCS.

These are not the only 3 that will be playing in unified WCS. I know of at least 3 more koreans which will be playing in NA region, and about 4-5 koreans at least will be in the EU region.


How certain is this? Because as I'm sure you know, Balloon went back to Korea, and given what others have said about the difficulty of acquiring visas (none of the players currently in the EU region have proper ones) by ESL officials, I find it hard to believe 5 could acquire the visas they need within the timeframe.


Yet others have mentioned that it is not so hard to get a working visa in e.g. Germany as long as you have a job. Maybe it is just a matter of providing a proper contract?


If Millenium couldn't make that happen for ForGG (I have only a layman's understanding of visas, mind), who has lived in Germany for a pretty long time and competed in Europe since 2012, I think "providing a proper contract" isn't as simple a matter as we might think.
AdministratorBreak the chains
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
November 03 2014 21:32 GMT
#573
On November 04 2014 06:29 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2014 06:27 BaneRiders wrote:
On November 04 2014 06:00 Zealously wrote:
On November 04 2014 05:53 goswser wrote:
On November 04 2014 03:22 Dingodile wrote:
On November 04 2014 03:04 cpower wrote:
This needs to be nationality locked.
Otherwise Polt and a few koreans win every time. Make it a foreigner event!

a bit harsh no? I can imagine that Polt, Violet and Balloon stay in America after esport-career. As far I know only these 3 can attend unified WCS.

These are not the only 3 that will be playing in unified WCS. I know of at least 3 more koreans which will be playing in NA region, and about 4-5 koreans at least will be in the EU region.


How certain is this? Because as I'm sure you know, Balloon went back to Korea, and given what others have said about the difficulty of acquiring visas (none of the players currently in the EU region have proper ones) by ESL officials, I find it hard to believe 5 could acquire the visas they need within the timeframe.


Yet others have mentioned that it is not so hard to get a working visa in e.g. Germany as long as you have a job. Maybe it is just a matter of providing a proper contract?


If Millenium couldn't make that happen for ForGG (I have only a layman's understanding of visas, mind), who has lived in Germany for a pretty long time and competed in Europe since 2012, I think "providing a proper contract" isn't as simple a matter as we might think.


Someone mentioned that Millenium apparently did sort out a French working visa for ForGG, but ForGG went to Germany instead, because of his girlfriend being there, and stayed on this tourist visa or whatever it is. If people work, they should have a working visa. And a proper contract. Simple as that. Note that I said should.
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
November 03 2014 21:38 GMT
#574
On November 04 2014 06:32 BaneRiders wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2014 06:29 Zealously wrote:
On November 04 2014 06:27 BaneRiders wrote:
On November 04 2014 06:00 Zealously wrote:
On November 04 2014 05:53 goswser wrote:
On November 04 2014 03:22 Dingodile wrote:
On November 04 2014 03:04 cpower wrote:
This needs to be nationality locked.
Otherwise Polt and a few koreans win every time. Make it a foreigner event!

a bit harsh no? I can imagine that Polt, Violet and Balloon stay in America after esport-career. As far I know only these 3 can attend unified WCS.

These are not the only 3 that will be playing in unified WCS. I know of at least 3 more koreans which will be playing in NA region, and about 4-5 koreans at least will be in the EU region.


How certain is this? Because as I'm sure you know, Balloon went back to Korea, and given what others have said about the difficulty of acquiring visas (none of the players currently in the EU region have proper ones) by ESL officials, I find it hard to believe 5 could acquire the visas they need within the timeframe.


Yet others have mentioned that it is not so hard to get a working visa in e.g. Germany as long as you have a job. Maybe it is just a matter of providing a proper contract?


If Millenium couldn't make that happen for ForGG (I have only a layman's understanding of visas, mind), who has lived in Germany for a pretty long time and competed in Europe since 2012, I think "providing a proper contract" isn't as simple a matter as we might think.


Someone mentioned that Millenium apparently did sort out a French working visa for ForGG, but ForGG went to Germany instead, because of his girlfriend being there, and stayed on this tourist visa or whatever it is. If people work, they should have a working visa. And a proper contract. Simple as that. Note that I said should.

ForGG has a proper contract, Millenium is one of the most serious/stable team in Europe. By the way, even if ForGG is not able to play WCS EU he wants to stay in Europe. There is a short article about the ForGG case in Millenium website. Moreover, tomorrow there is an interview of Llewellys, Millenium manager, and I'm pretty sure he's going to talk about new WCS rules.
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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-03 21:40:17
November 03 2014 21:38 GMT
#575
Whatever happens to his spot in WCS, ForGG will stay in Europe in 2015.

On November 04 2014 06:38 Aeromi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2014 06:32 BaneRiders wrote:
On November 04 2014 06:29 Zealously wrote:
On November 04 2014 06:27 BaneRiders wrote:
On November 04 2014 06:00 Zealously wrote:
On November 04 2014 05:53 goswser wrote:
On November 04 2014 03:22 Dingodile wrote:
On November 04 2014 03:04 cpower wrote:
This needs to be nationality locked.
Otherwise Polt and a few koreans win every time. Make it a foreigner event!

a bit harsh no? I can imagine that Polt, Violet and Balloon stay in America after esport-career. As far I know only these 3 can attend unified WCS.

These are not the only 3 that will be playing in unified WCS. I know of at least 3 more koreans which will be playing in NA region, and about 4-5 koreans at least will be in the EU region.


How certain is this? Because as I'm sure you know, Balloon went back to Korea, and given what others have said about the difficulty of acquiring visas (none of the players currently in the EU region have proper ones) by ESL officials, I find it hard to believe 5 could acquire the visas they need within the timeframe.


Yet others have mentioned that it is not so hard to get a working visa in e.g. Germany as long as you have a job. Maybe it is just a matter of providing a proper contract?


If Millenium couldn't make that happen for ForGG (I have only a layman's understanding of visas, mind), who has lived in Germany for a pretty long time and competed in Europe since 2012, I think "providing a proper contract" isn't as simple a matter as we might think.


Someone mentioned that Millenium apparently did sort out a French working visa for ForGG, but ForGG went to Germany instead, because of his girlfriend being there, and stayed on this tourist visa or whatever it is. If people work, they should have a working visa. And a proper contract. Simple as that. Note that I said should.

ForGG has a proper contract, Millenium is one of the most serious/stable team in Europe. By the way, even if ForGG is not able to play WCS EU he wants to stay in Europe. There is a short article about the ForGG case in Millenium website. Moreover, tomorrow there is an interview of Llewellys, Millenium manager, and I'm pretty sure he's going to talk about new WCS rules.

Haha, clean your schedule before though.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Evil_Sheep
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada902 Posts
November 03 2014 21:57 GMT
#576
On November 04 2014 05:53 goswser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2014 03:22 Dingodile wrote:
On November 04 2014 03:04 cpower wrote:
This needs to be nationality locked.
Otherwise Polt and a few koreans win every time. Make it a foreigner event!

a bit harsh no? I can imagine that Polt, Violet and Balloon stay in America after esport-career. As far I know only these 3 can attend unified WCS.

These are not the only 3 that will be playing in unified WCS. I know of at least 3 more koreans which will be playing in NA region, and about 4-5 koreans at least will be in the EU region.

I hope this isn't true, it will seriously undermine Blizzard's commendable effort to fix WCS. If there are more than 7-8 koreans taking the NA/EU slots, it will be worse than ever for foreigners.
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
November 03 2014 22:17 GMT
#577
free forgg! <3
rip passion
playa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1284 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-03 22:35:20
November 03 2014 22:34 GMT
#578
On November 04 2014 06:57 Evil_Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2014 05:53 goswser wrote:
On November 04 2014 03:22 Dingodile wrote:
On November 04 2014 03:04 cpower wrote:
This needs to be nationality locked.
Otherwise Polt and a few koreans win every time. Make it a foreigner event!

a bit harsh no? I can imagine that Polt, Violet and Balloon stay in America after esport-career. As far I know only these 3 can attend unified WCS.

These are not the only 3 that will be playing in unified WCS. I know of at least 3 more koreans which will be playing in NA region, and about 4-5 koreans at least will be in the EU region.

I hope this isn't true, it will seriously undermine Blizzard's commendable effort to fix WCS. If there are more than 7-8 koreans taking the NA/EU slots, it will be worse than ever for foreigners.


I hate Blizzard. This isn't even a new problem in sports. This is what happens when nerds try to create sports, though. Any legitimate sport, with any common sense, whatsoever, puts a hard cap on the amount of foreigners that can play in their leagues. You're not left to wonder, o man, I wonder how many spots will be up for grabs in "x" season. Even if this season would be good for foreigners, the inevitable is still obvious, thus you will eventually have to change the rules again. Whenever that is the case, you may as well just act like the inevitable has already happened.

As for Koreans in NA and having to pay for flights. There's only 1 or so Korean who could even contemplate qualifying in Korea. Looking at 2012, WCS great for foreigners. Good scene. Now, horrible for foreigners. No scene. Let's make it even harder... every day, it's hard to not wish you played LoL.
mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
November 04 2014 01:35 GMT
#579
student visas also work, is Balloon confirmed to have a student visa?

if so, maybe he might think of moving back or maybe since he already has student visa, he can just stay in korea until offline Ro32, then fly back LOL...

working visas seem to be harder to get than student visas....
olol
Profile Joined August 2014
33 Posts
November 04 2014 13:43 GMT
#580
If it's really Polt and Violet as the only Kroeans, it looks like Polt will be the one to beat.

I think he's currently a level above all foreigners, while Violet looks to be about equal to top foreigners like Scarlett/Snute/Bunny.
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