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shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-19 15:28:42
August 19 2014 15:28 GMT
#361
I don't want to see foreign team on proleague.
Yet i think partnership should be easier to make so that foreign team can send some of their player to proleague for a while.

Like each Korean team can be partner with one foreign team for the season and when the foreign team feels like it they send a few players over.
Now that would be cool.

(kinda what we had with GSTL )
RIP MKP
klipik12
Profile Joined March 2012
United States241 Posts
August 19 2014 15:33 GMT
#362
Only teams imo that are at least partially viable are Axiom, Acer, TL, YFW and mYi. Probably a few partnerships and contracting of CSN/GEM guys floating around (Yoda, First, MC, Polt, Revival, Violet, HyuN) would be involved. Something like EG did with Revival, JYP, aLive and JD.
<(^_^)> || Axiom - CoL - mYi - Prime - ROOT - EG - Acer || WCS Teamleague pls ;-;
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
August 19 2014 15:38 GMT
#363
sc2 isnt long enough for this world for us to retain korean elitism in proleague imo

and thats not a "sc2 is dying" statement im just saying that no game lasts forever as an esport and we only have so much time to experiment with stuff like mixing koreans vs foreigners so honestly im all for it, it will be something fresh to watch

if the foreign teams are able to participate i dont see any reason against this. griping about the purity of the competition is a really bizarre thing to do... high level play is a lot but it's not everything, esports is entertainment and it would provide great narratives
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NihilisticGod
Profile Joined March 2011
Northern Ireland174 Posts
August 19 2014 15:42 GMT
#364
Would be great to see TL, Acer and Startale in Proleague. Imo these teams have the talent to stand a chance of going far!
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Ovid
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United Kingdom948 Posts
August 19 2014 15:47 GMT
#365
On August 20 2014 00:38 brickrd wrote:
sc2 isnt long enough for this world for us to retain korean elitism in proleague imo

and thats not a "sc2 is dying" statement im just saying that no game lasts forever as an esport and we only have so much time to experiment with stuff like mixing koreans vs foreigners so honestly im all for it, it will be something fresh to watch

if the foreign teams are able to participate i dont see any reason against this. griping about the purity of the competition is a really bizarre thing to do... high level play is a lot but it's not everything, esports is entertainment and it would provide great narratives


With LotV probably coming out next summer I would predict at a conservative range atleast 4 more years of SC2.
I will make Yogg Saron priest work...
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
August 19 2014 15:47 GMT
#366
On August 20 2014 00:42 NihilisticGod wrote:
Would be great to see TL, Acer and Startale in Proleague. Imo these teams have the talent to stand a chance of going far!


i'm sorry to say but your opinion is wrong. All 3 would probably finish below Prime if they tried.
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brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
August 19 2014 15:49 GMT
#367
On August 20 2014 00:47 Ovid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 00:38 brickrd wrote:
sc2 isnt long enough for this world for us to retain korean elitism in proleague imo

and thats not a "sc2 is dying" statement im just saying that no game lasts forever as an esport and we only have so much time to experiment with stuff like mixing koreans vs foreigners so honestly im all for it, it will be something fresh to watch

if the foreign teams are able to participate i dont see any reason against this. griping about the purity of the competition is a really bizarre thing to do... high level play is a lot but it's not everything, esports is entertainment and it would provide great narratives


With LotV probably coming out next summer I would predict at a conservative range atleast 4 more years of SC2.

you really never know. a new competitor could emerge or starcrafts share in the esports world could shrink for any number of reasons, lotv could bomb or screw up the game, etc. regardless my point stands just the same that there isn't an eternity of starcraft and who knows whether we're at a peak in terms of skill and hype or what the scene will be like next year. saying "there will probably be 4 years of sc2 left" doesnt really address anything i said or why i said it
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cYaN
Profile Joined May 2004
Norway3322 Posts
August 19 2014 15:51 GMT
#368
Is this even practically possible? from the player/team side i mean. Anyways, would be fun I guess. Love proleague^^
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
August 19 2014 15:55 GMT
#369
Do foreign teams want to compete in proleague? In the end it's a big investment into probably getting your asss kicked and players sort of having to set aside their individual tournament ambitions.
I think esports is pretty nice.
NihilisticGod
Profile Joined March 2011
Northern Ireland174 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-19 15:56:58
August 19 2014 15:56 GMT
#370
On August 20 2014 00:47 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 00:42 NihilisticGod wrote:
Would be great to see TL, Acer and Startale in Proleague. Imo these teams have the talent to stand a chance of going far!


i'm sorry to say but your opinion is wrong. All 3 would probably finish below Prime if they tried.


Doubt that.
Too weird to live... too rare to die.
CoB-Vince
Profile Joined July 2010
143 Posts
August 19 2014 15:57 GMT
#371
A great idea but i dont think any other teams will take it serious enough and will focus more on individual tournaments

I would love to see other non-Kespa Players play in ProLeague but it wont work out well
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-19 15:59:15
August 19 2014 15:58 GMT
#372
On August 20 2014 00:55 Saechiis wrote:
Do foreign teams want to compete in proleague? In the end it's a big investment into probably getting your asss kicked and players sort of having to set aside their individual tournament ambitions.

this is what im curious about, didnt eg tl basically say they didnt have the money to keep going and getting wrecked in korea for a few months? im curious how foreign teams would work out their participation, but if its viable id love to see it
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Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
August 19 2014 16:07 GMT
#373
The more I think about it the more I really really want to see Axiom in Proleague. That's obviously me speaking as a fan though. Only TB and the rest of the Axiom team will know just how viable it is.
Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
August 19 2014 16:09 GMT
#374
On August 20 2014 00:47 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 00:42 NihilisticGod wrote:
Would be great to see TL, Acer and Startale in Proleague. Imo these teams have the talent to stand a chance of going far!


i'm sorry to say but your opinion is wrong. All 3 would probably finish below Prime if they tried.


I don't think finishing below Prime is likely at all unless Prime adds to their lineup. If you just look at Prime's lineup there's Byun who's afk, Barbie, Creator, Kassia, Terror and State. Assuming a lineup of the last four mentioned I think all the teams above are more than capable of beating Prime.
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8245 Posts
August 19 2014 16:12 GMT
#375
On August 20 2014 00:47 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 00:42 NihilisticGod wrote:
Would be great to see TL, Acer and Startale in Proleague. Imo these teams have the talent to stand a chance of going far!


i'm sorry to say but your opinion is wrong. All 3 would probably finish below Prime if they tried.

Prime is a joke right now. They've been a joke for a while. What makes you think Team Liquid or Acer can't beat Prime? On Team Liquid, there is Snute, TLO, Bunny, Mana, Taeja, and Hero. These 5 are easily more than capable of taking down whatever Prime throws at them. Though Taeja did say that he does not perform well in preparation type of tournaments, and he probably won't play much due to his wrists.
caznitch
Profile Joined July 2012
Canada645 Posts
August 19 2014 16:12 GMT
#376
Any responses from KESPA so far? I haven't scrolled through all 19 pages.
why?
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
August 19 2014 16:16 GMT
#377
On August 20 2014 01:12 geokilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 00:47 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On August 20 2014 00:42 NihilisticGod wrote:
Would be great to see TL, Acer and Startale in Proleague. Imo these teams have the talent to stand a chance of going far!


i'm sorry to say but your opinion is wrong. All 3 would probably finish below Prime if they tried.

Prime is a joke right now. They've been a joke for a while. What makes you think Team Liquid or Acer can't beat Prime? On Team Liquid, there is Snute, TLO, Bunny, Mana, Taeja, and Hero. These 5 are easily more than capable of taking down whatever Prime throws at them. Though Taeja did say that he does not perform well in preparation type of tournaments, and he probably won't play much due to his wrists.


Preperation is the key. Acer and Liquid would never be as fully commited to Proleague as Prime is and they would come into every match better prepared. Startale I suppose could do better, now that I really look at that team.
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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
August 19 2014 16:18 GMT
#378
On August 20 2014 00:58 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 00:55 Saechiis wrote:
Do foreign teams want to compete in proleague? In the end it's a big investment into probably getting your asss kicked and players sort of having to set aside their individual tournament ambitions.

this is what im curious about, didnt eg tl basically say they didnt have the money to keep going and getting wrecked in korea for a few months? im curious how foreign teams would work out their participation, but if its viable id love to see it

That's why I think a team playing an entire season of Proleague wouldn't be possible. But I'm thinking of a new possibility that would reside in a special round of one month where an international team (either an already established team or an all-star team) would be invited to fight the other Proleague teams but their results wouldn't matter for the final playoffs. Just for the show.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
August 19 2014 16:29 GMT
#379
On August 20 2014 01:16 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 01:12 geokilla wrote:
On August 20 2014 00:47 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On August 20 2014 00:42 NihilisticGod wrote:
Would be great to see TL, Acer and Startale in Proleague. Imo these teams have the talent to stand a chance of going far!


i'm sorry to say but your opinion is wrong. All 3 would probably finish below Prime if they tried.

Prime is a joke right now. They've been a joke for a while. What makes you think Team Liquid or Acer can't beat Prime? On Team Liquid, there is Snute, TLO, Bunny, Mana, Taeja, and Hero. These 5 are easily more than capable of taking down whatever Prime throws at them. Though Taeja did say that he does not perform well in preparation type of tournaments, and he probably won't play much due to his wrists.


Preperation is the key. Acer and Liquid would never be as fully commited to Proleague as Prime is and they would come into every match better prepared. Startale I suppose could do better, now that I really look at that team.


That depends on the conditions of the league. I think that is just the darkhorse in this whole discussion.
If Kespa is willing to switch to a format that does not force foreigners to travel to Korea or even worse, stay there, I do not see why professionals such as Snute or TLO, not to mention Koreans such as HerO or Taeja wouldn't change their training schedules to include specific training against Kespa opponents and specific proleague preparation.
Without that, there is just a disadvantage at which foreign teams shouldn't even join, because then it's really not going to be worth it.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
August 19 2014 16:32 GMT
#380
On August 20 2014 01:29 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 01:16 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On August 20 2014 01:12 geokilla wrote:
On August 20 2014 00:47 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On August 20 2014 00:42 NihilisticGod wrote:
Would be great to see TL, Acer and Startale in Proleague. Imo these teams have the talent to stand a chance of going far!


i'm sorry to say but your opinion is wrong. All 3 would probably finish below Prime if they tried.

Prime is a joke right now. They've been a joke for a while. What makes you think Team Liquid or Acer can't beat Prime? On Team Liquid, there is Snute, TLO, Bunny, Mana, Taeja, and Hero. These 5 are easily more than capable of taking down whatever Prime throws at them. Though Taeja did say that he does not perform well in preparation type of tournaments, and he probably won't play much due to his wrists.


Preperation is the key. Acer and Liquid would never be as fully commited to Proleague as Prime is and they would come into every match better prepared. Startale I suppose could do better, now that I really look at that team.


That depends on the conditions of the league. I think that is just the darkhorse in this whole discussion.
If Kespa is willing to switch to a format that does not force foreigners to travel to Korea or even worse, stay there, I do not see why professionals such as Snute or TLO, not to mention Koreans such as HerO or Taeja wouldn't change their training schedules to include specific training against Kespa opponents and specific proleague preparation.
Without that, there is just a disadvantage at which foreign teams shouldn't even join, because then it's really not going to be worth it.


Sadly, I doubt the format of Proleague would change any and it won't be worth it for foreign teams.
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