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2014-2015 Proleague Plans Opening SPL to the world

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Chuddinater
Profile Joined July 2013
Korea (South)164 Posts
August 19 2014 08:17 GMT
#1
I hope everyone has enjoyed this season of Proleague as much as we have. There were plenty of exciting matches and the finals will be an event I will remember for the rest of my life, especially FlaSh kicking the soccer ball with the names of the SKT players into the crowd.

Looking forward to the next season of Proleague we want to make it more exciting then it was this year. We are toying with the idea of opening Proleague to the world. If we did open up Proleague next year to all teams which teams would you be most excited to watch? Do you think if we allowed foreign teams to enter would it lower the competitive level or increase it?
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SidianTheBard
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2208 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-19 01:50:03
August 19 2014 01:49 GMT
#2
I think it's safe to say if Team Liquid got invited (and actually wanted to play) viewership might increase. Or maybe even a TL/EG/Axiom combo team! mmmmm

Tbh, I just want to see some Taeja & Innovation in proleague.
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roarbot
Profile Joined June 2013
United States2 Posts
August 19 2014 01:51 GMT
#3
That would be AMAZING!

I would love to see teams like Liquid, EG, Root, and YoeFW play against top-tier Koreans!
JeXeD
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada6 Posts
August 19 2014 01:51 GMT
#4
Acer!
NFxJehuty
Profile Joined March 2012
United Kingdom58 Posts
August 19 2014 01:51 GMT
#5
I think you should try to invite a 'All star' team, made up of all the best foreign team players, that way you could take players like jaedong on american team and get him to play vs flash finally!!
SChlafmann
Profile Joined September 2011
France721 Posts
August 19 2014 01:51 GMT
#6
You can open, but not too much. Very few western team are able to compete with Kespa teams. An alliance of western teams is the best way to increase vierwership and still provide them a small chance not being totally stomped.
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Onekobold
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
244 Posts
August 19 2014 01:52 GMT
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lubu42
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States314 Posts
August 19 2014 01:53 GMT
#8
That would be incredible if Proleague was opened to the world. To be honest I want to see teamliquid as an addition. I think with very few certain teams added to SPL, the skill level would definitely increase. However, with too many teams added (or not the right ones) I could see the skill level/competitiveness of SPL going down a bit...With the right teams I think this would be a phenomenal idea!
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chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States8574 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-19 01:57:16
August 19 2014 01:54 GMT
#9
As long as it would still be an "offline" event allowing foreigner teams in would only make the league better. I think some of the more competitive foreign teams (liquid, acer, myi, axiom, iG, and maybe some of the Taiwanese teams + Sen mercenary) would fair middle of the pack at least and add something to the league.

Oroch
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium143 Posts
August 19 2014 01:54 GMT
#10
Yeah I guess relocation/distribution of skill-wise an Allstar team seems to be a good idea
TerranosaurusWrecks
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada185 Posts
August 19 2014 01:54 GMT
#11
OMG :O

i don't think i could name a foreign team that wouldn't decrease the competitiveness of proleague, but that being said it would be amazing to see eg/tl or axiom acer in the bunch.
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada38851 Posts
August 19 2014 01:54 GMT
#12
A foreign all star team could bring a lot of excitement, I don't think there are any teams that are strong enough to stand on their own in PL but some combination of EG/TL/Acer/Axiom/MYI could make a decently competitive team and bring in more viewers.
Random2732
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada51 Posts
August 19 2014 01:55 GMT
#13
I would love to see Team Liquid, Axiom, Acer, and MyInsanity compete in some fashion, although I'm sure these teams wouldn't want their players as grounded in Korea as seems to be currently necessary for success in Proleague.

Looking forward to the new season regardless
Sjokola
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands797 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-19 01:59:30
August 19 2014 01:56 GMT
#14
axiom-acer would be awesome. Does EG-TL have enough players who can stay in Korea? Maybe a Chinese team? I'm not too familiar with those.

I would love to see 2v2 come back to proleague it's to unexplored at competitive level.

Edit: I like the idea for all-star teams. Maybe an wcs AM and wcs EU team? Although they should have a set roster, but that's what KeSPA would want anyway.
NFxJehuty
Profile Joined March 2012
United Kingdom58 Posts
August 19 2014 01:58 GMT
#15
My All star team: JD, Snute, Taeja, HerO, Bunny, San, Yoda(After todays game vs herO).
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7223 Posts
August 19 2014 01:58 GMT
#16
The idea of TL/EG/Axiom team playing together is awesome. that could only increase viewership. Somehow I doubt there would be enough foreigner interest for there to be more than one new team, which I why I say TL/EG/Axiom combined. It could only be a good thing.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada38851 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-19 01:59:56
August 19 2014 01:59 GMT
#17
On August 19 2014 10:55 Random2732 wrote:
I would love to see Team Liquid, Axiom, Acer, and MyInsanity compete in some fashion, although I'm sure these teams wouldn't want their players as grounded in Korea as seems to be currently necessary for success in Proleague.

Looking forward to the new season regardless


I think ideally the team roster would be large enough to allow players to sub in and out depending on when they're available.

You could have Taeja//Hero/Inno/MMA/Scarlett/Jjakji/Sacsri/Stardust/(Not sure if any of the MYI players live in KR)Jaedong/HuK/Bunny/Mana/Snute if they want to go back to KR. Add in all of the Axiom players and you have a pretty big team.

The question is who would manage the team and how would they mesh together properly and all that jazz.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16591 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-19 02:01:12
August 19 2014 01:59 GMT
#18
I thought this season of Proleague was amazing. The finals were especially well produced, and the games didn't disappoint.

Opening Proleague to the world is worth trying in my opinion, and would help increase the amount of interest in it for the crowd. Since maintaining a team in Korea to compete in Proleague is expensive and requires heavy resources I'd expect compound teams along the lines of EG-TL to be the main sort to apply.

Allowing entry to foreign teams probably won't lower the competitive level depending on who applies. Smaller teams with less competitive lineups simply can't afford to send people to Proleague. If different major foreign teams all come together to create a sort of juggernaut team I think the level of competition will remain fairly high. Offering the option to participate in Proleague is definitely the right decision as really the worse case scenario is that no one applies which isn't a loss.
looknohands119
Profile Joined March 2010
United States814 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-19 05:16:26
August 19 2014 02:00 GMT
#19
On August 19 2014 10:47 Chuddinater wrote:
I hope everyone has enjoyed this season of Proleague as much as we have. There were plenty of exciting matches and the finals will be an event I will remember for the rest of my life, especially FlaSh kicking the soccer ball with the names of the SKT players into the crowd.

Looking forward to the next season of Proleague we want to make it more exciting then it was this year. We are toying with the idea of opening Proleague to the world. If we did open up Proleague next year to all teams which teams would you be most excited to watch? Do you think if we allowed foreign teams to enter would it lower the competitive level or increase it?


Obviously the foreign teams who are most qualified are Evil Geniuses, TeamLiquid, Acer, Axiom, and some of the big Chinese/Taiwanese teams. While in the short term, opening Proleague up might slightly decrease the average skill level, I think that it will dramatically increase it in the long-term. Think of it as an investment into developing "new blood" that will bring more innovation to drive progress in the Korean scene and that will draw more money and sponsorship by expanding Proleague's appeal outside of Korea.

Edit: Who knows, maybe it would be incentive enough for some established teams from other games (LoL, DOTA2, CS:GO, etc...) to create SC2 squads or even for new non-Korean teams to form.

Edit #2: Also, why the hell is everyone assuming that KeSPA wouldn't help reduce the financial barrier. Seems like them even considering opening things up marks a very large attitude shift from KeSPA compared to when EG-TL tried to compete. It isn't a stretch to think that the traditional buy in price would be heavily reduced or that the chosen team(s) would receive monetary and logistical help to make it more viable.

TL'DR, while there might be some short term disadvantages and costs, its pretty hard to argue that it is the wrong move for either Starcraft or Korean eSports.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
18819 Posts
August 19 2014 02:01 GMT
#20
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