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2014-2015 Proleague Plans Opening SPL to the world - Page 3

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MarinePrince
Profile Joined October 2011
United States101 Posts
August 19 2014 02:14 GMT
#41
I think very few foreign teams deserve a spot in Proleague. I also think very few foreign teams are capable of competing with other proleague teams in any way. So, I'd say the only teams Proleague should consider would be Team Liquid, Team Acer, and possibly Team Axiom. Perhaps YoeFlashwolves as well.
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TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-19 02:17:29
August 19 2014 02:14 GMT
#42
On August 19 2014 11:11 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2014 11:08 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On August 19 2014 11:01 The_Red_Viper wrote:
TB your turn


Yes yes, how many times must this question be brought up?

It might end up happening just because I have a distinct feeling next year is gonna be sparse on the tournament front, so competing in Korea is the strongest option economically. Also with our unique approach to sponsor ROI we might be able to make it work even though its an event designed to benefit the KeSPA sponsors.

We'll see


Is there a reason you couldn't get a Kespa sponsor? Or is it just a sponsor like JA or KT would just conflict with your current sponsors in either field (like monster vs redbull) or location (competing in korea vs being around the world)


Obviously I understand that its ridiculously difficult to accomplish, I'm just curious if there's something inherently stopping it other than its difficulty and possible bad ROI


It would be stupid hard, we're focused on foreign markets where Korean sponsors don't sell their products. It would involve changing our entire strategy, not to mention putting us at the behest of that sponsor which I will absolutely not do. I don't want to be in the position where I have to ask my sponsors permission for every action I take, particularly when my individual media reach outside of Korea is larger than Proleagues is. It makes no sense to do that.

Proleague should consider would be Team Liquid, Team Acer, and possibly Team Axiom.


Glad to hear that winning GSTL only gets us a "possibly" when it comes to teamleagues. I'm under no illusions that Proleague is the hardest league in the world but if we played we'd be no EG-TL. Our players are more than capable of taking games off those guys, they do it every day on ladder. If we were to ever enter Proleague I'd treat it as a learning experience for our team, rather than hyping expectations to ridiculous levels only to disappoint. Axiom would not be "unleashing a monster" into Proleague, they'd be there to learn from the best and show entertaining matchs for the fans as well as support the league by bulking up the roster.

Regardless this is all completely hypothetical.
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Netsky
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1155 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-19 02:15:35
August 19 2014 02:15 GMT
#43
Awesome idea, but there aren't any foreigner teams with the skill level capable of competing. Last time a "foreigner" team (EG-TL) tried competing in Proleague it was a train wreck.
URLateral
Profile Joined October 2012
275 Posts
August 19 2014 02:15 GMT
#44
On August 19 2014 10:49 SidianTheBard wrote:
I think it's safe to say if Team Liquid got invited (and actually wanted to play) viewership might increase. Or maybe even a TL/EG/Axiom combo team! mmmmm

Tbh, I just want to see some Taeja & Innovation in proleague.

Please no EG they dont care about sc2 and it shows in their line up let jaedong play for another team (their only player) and pick Liquid, Axiom, Acer
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33699 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-19 02:17:26
August 19 2014 02:15 GMT
#45
Axiom-Acer is the only realistic possibility I see, unless KeSPA is subsidizing the cost of living and training in Korea

However, with mYi's mysteriously deep pockets over the last few years, one can always hope....
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
August 19 2014 02:16 GMT
#46
Axiom-Acer is love Axiom-Acer is life
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MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
August 19 2014 02:16 GMT
#47
It'd be pretty cool to see foreign teams in proleague, but it would need to be teams which are serious about such a commitment and aren't potentially going to disband, or simply pull out half way through.
Oreo7
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1647 Posts
August 19 2014 02:18 GMT
#48
Liquid, Acer and Axiom are the top 3.
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-19 02:21:51
August 19 2014 02:20 GMT
#49
On August 19 2014 11:15 Netsky wrote:
Awesome idea, but there aren't any foreigner teams with the skill level capable of competing. Last time a "foreigner" team (EG-TL) tried competing in Proleague it was a train wreck.


Honestly, EG-TL did better than Prime/MVP/IM did most rounds this season. They were one match win away from not finishing last overall throughout the entire 6 round season. In 3 out of the 4 rounds this season MVP finished 1-6. Prime finished 1-6 twice and 2-5 twice.

EG-TL was better than Prime and MVP, easily. Maybe better than IM too.
DeadSanto123
Profile Joined August 2013
United States90 Posts
August 19 2014 02:20 GMT
#50
Just put Jaedong on a team
Jaedong!!!
starslayer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States696 Posts
August 19 2014 02:21 GMT
#51
wow this sounds amazing would love to see foreign team join. the only thing is, it needs to stay offline, and that means the teams need to relocate to korea, which can be kinda hard cause its a year long commitment. but as along as the are willing to stay the full proleague season then hell yea, would love to see EG-TL ,Axiom-acer, and even MYI with the EU/Koreans like yoda first mc and maybe mvp if hes still teamless and his wrist allow. but yea this would be sick. not sure about other team wish we could see root or some other but idk if they're there yet but would be cool if not let supernova just the myi eu Korean alliance. ( side note if anyone from myi see this please do this get myi, yoda first mc mvp and supernova and and zerg and you cant lose please do it)
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mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-19 02:23:08
August 19 2014 02:22 GMT
#52
not many foreign teams can pay to have a full roster of players living in Korea...? probably their foreign sponsors might not think its worth the investment either...
Jazzman88
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada2228 Posts
August 19 2014 02:23 GMT
#53
I'd say that Axiom, Acer, and TeamLiquid all definitely deserve to be in the mix if you want to invite foreign teams into Proleague, mostly because they already have a Korean presence and some of the top level talent available to make it not into an embarrassment.
PDizzle
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark1754 Posts
August 19 2014 02:23 GMT
#54
please don't....
winthrop
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Hong Kong956 Posts
August 19 2014 02:24 GMT
#55
EGTL of course.
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Exarl25
Profile Joined November 2010
1887 Posts
August 19 2014 02:26 GMT
#56
I don't think any single foreign team is capable of even fielding enough players on their own, not even taking into account being up to the challenge skill wise. Not every player will necessarily be willing to live in Korea and compete in Proleague. There will have to be some mixing and matching, either a partnership or just an all-star team.

The current top foreigners plus some monsters like Jaedong/Taeja/Hero could form a worthy roster. And having our best foreigners training for and competing in Proleague is the best way to keep them on par with the top tier. I hope players like Scarlett and Snute would be up for this kind of opportunity.
mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-19 02:32:09
August 19 2014 02:29 GMT
#57
On August 19 2014 11:26 Exarl25 wrote:
I don't think any single foreign team is capable of even fielding enough players on their own, not even taking into account being up to the challenge skill wise. Not every player will necessarily be willing to live in Korea and compete in Proleague. There will have to be some mixing and matching, either a partnership or just an all-star team.

The current top foreigners plus some monsters like Jaedong/Taeja/Hero could form a worthy roster. And having our best foreigners training for and competing in Proleague is the best way to keep them on par with the top tier. I hope players like Scarlett and Snute would be up for this kind of opportunity.


foreigner team of Taeja, Polt, San, Hyun, Leenock, Stardust, MMA, Innovation, MC, JD...ummm Pigbaby too ?

this could compete in PL
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
August 19 2014 02:29 GMT
#58
Think about what happened the last time we had a "foreign" team in Proleague

I mean I'm sure it would increase viewership by a large amount, but does it cheapen the prestige of the League when one of those teams does not have the skill to compete? It's basically Prime 2.0
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NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
August 19 2014 02:29 GMT
#59
While it sounds like a good idea, I think that you would have trouble getting enough people to go, considering that they wouldn't be able to play in WCS NA/EU and instead would have to try and get into Code S(basically impossible for most players on foreign teams)
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 19 2014 02:31 GMT
#60
I can't think of any foreign team that would willingly lock their team in for an year. The only one that I think could even do it is Axiom, but with their sponsors focused outside of Korea that seems counter productive.
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