I think that proleague should remain strictly to korean teams. With the level of play koreans bring to the table, allowing outsiders in would only decrease the level of skill. Although there are some outstanding players who do not live in korean or aren't korean, overall the level of competition would decrease. One other perk of leaving SPL as is would be the collectiveness of all the korean players. I love watching KT, SKT, Jin Air, CJ, Samsung, etc. play against eachother, but this is truly the only place to watch these teams play in one night. What I'm trying to say is that I can watch EG or TL or ROOT players in almost any other tournament, but in all of those tournaments there might be only 2-4 SPL players. Having them all collectively placed into SPL makes it so I can see them play the most. Yes, the korean players would remain in SPL, its not like they would be kicked out, but some NA/EU team would take a KR team's spot in SPL, and when I can see that team generally anywhere else, its obvious that the KR team (being more exclusive) should be competing in SPL.

fezvez

France3021 Posts

August 19 2014 03:05 GMT

#83

Realistically Axiom-Acer, and that's pretty much it. I am sorry, but TL is just unable to do so. EG-TL was very nice and cute, but you could feel they didn't give the priority SPL.

Darkhorse

United States23455 Posts

August 19 2014 03:06 GMT

#84

I kind of don't want to see a foreign team get beat up again in SPL. I see no issue with SPL only being for the top teams, although there is potential for increased viewership with foreign team involvement (short term because if that team starts getting rolled every week viewers should decrease I think?)

Also foreign teams committing to PL is so hard. Dunno that anyone will want to do it

URLateral

275 Posts

August 19 2014 03:08 GMT

#85

On August 19 2014 12:02 Hunta15 wrote:
New EG-TL!

you mean TL + Jaedong right?

Shellshock

United States97276 Posts

August 19 2014 03:10 GMT

#86

Hard to see anyone outside of Axiom or Axiom/Acer really taking advantage of this imo

SKTRolster

Philippines6 Posts

August 19 2014 03:14 GMT

#87

Proleague needs Jaedong, Innovation, Taeja and people wants to see Korean vs the World.Wish it coming next Proleague
SKT [image loading]

is still the best [image loading]

TotalBiscuit

United Kingdom5437 Posts

August 19 2014 03:15 GMT

#88

On August 19 2014 11:54 Meckie wrote:

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Acer: Innovation, MMA and Scarlett.
Axiom: Alicia, Heart, Ryung and Impact.
Liquid: Snute, Bunny, HerO and TaeJa
yoe Flash Wolves: San and Leenock
iG: Jim.

The vast majority of the above-mentioned are definitely capable of taking out the "weaker" KeSPA-players. That's not an assumption - that's a fact.

CranK has won 10 BO3s this week against Korean players this week in qualifiers, 6 of whom play in Proleague. Don't count him out.

Draconicfire

Canada2562 Posts

August 19 2014 03:16 GMT

#89

I'd love to see more teams in Proleague, especially some foreigners to spice it up a bit. As long as they don't get stomped of course haha.

Stardust_

Korea (South)10 Posts

August 19 2014 03:17 GMT

#90

Darkhorse

United States23455 Posts

August 19 2014 03:17 GMT

#91

On August 19 2014 12:14 SKTRolster wrote:
Proleague needs Jaedong, Innovation, Taeja and people wants to see Korean vs the World.Wish it coming next Proleague
SKT [image loading]

is still the best [image loading]

Taeja hates playing pro league though which really hurts TL's chances (plus HerO already partnered with MVP)

chipmonklord17

United States11944 Posts

August 19 2014 03:18 GMT

#92

On August 19 2014 12:17 Darkhorse wrote:

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Taeja hates playing pro league though which really hurts TL's chances (plus HerO already partnered with MVP)

I imagine that if TL were playing in proleague the MVP HerO partnership would end.

MarinePrince

United States101 Posts

August 19 2014 03:19 GMT

#93

On August 19 2014 11:14 TotalBiscuit wrote:

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Glad to hear that winning GSTL only gets us a "possibly" when it comes to teamleagues. I'm under no illusions that Proleague is the hardest league in the world but if we played we'd be no EG-TL. Our players are more than capable of taking games off those guys, they do it every day on ladder. If we were to ever enter Proleague I'd treat it as a learning experience for our team, rather than hyping expectations to ridiculous levels only to disappoint. Axiom would not be "unleashing a monster" into Proleague, they'd be there to learn from the best and show entertaining matchs for the fans as well as support the league by bulking up the roster.

Regardless this is all completely hypothetical.

Hi TB,

I'm a huge fan of Axiom and you personally, so please understand I didn't mean to be rude or insult your players. To clarify, I added possibly because I didn't know if you had enough players to play in Proleague. On second thought, though, you have Crank, Heart, Ryung, Alicia, and Impact which afaik, should be enough after all.

Taco87

Norway72 Posts

August 19 2014 03:20 GMT

#94

Team Liquid, Acer, Axiom and Startale are the only teams that are strong enough i feel.

It would be very cool to see Liquid/acer/axiom in proleague ! :D

stuchiu

Fiddler's Green42661 Posts

August 19 2014 03:20 GMT

#95

On August 19 2014 12:04 sOsFan wrote:
I think that proleague should remain strictly to korean teams. With the level of play koreans bring to the table, allowing outsiders in would only decrease the level of skill. Although there are some outstanding players who do not live in korean or aren't korean, overall the level of competition would decrease. One other perk of leaving SPL as is would be the collectiveness of all the korean players. I love watching KT, SKT, Jin Air, CJ, Samsung, etc. play against eachother, but this is truly the only place to watch these teams play in one night. What I'm trying to say is that I can watch EG or TL or ROOT players in almost any other tournament, but in all of those tournaments there might be only 2-4 SPL players. Having them all collectively placed into SPL makes it so I can see them play the most. Yes, the korean players would remain in SPL, its not like they would be kicked out, but some NA/EU team would take a KR team's spot in SPL, and when I can see that team generally anywhere else, its obvious that the KR team (being more exclusive) should be competing in SPL.

This is the same PL that had MVP and Prime and T8 and Air Force Ace. How can you say that with a straight face?

Darkhorse

United States23455 Posts

August 19 2014 03:21 GMT

#96

On August 19 2014 12:20 Taco87 wrote:
Team Liquid, Acer, Axiom and Startale are the only teams that are strong enough i feel.

It would be very cool to see Liquid/acer/axiom in proleague ! :D

Since when is Startale a non-Korean team?

TeslasPigeon

464 Posts

August 19 2014 03:21 GMT

#97

I'd like to see the top 10 PL players but on an all-star match with the first and second place players being the captains. In an all-kill format funsies event. Kind of similar to what PL did when HOTS came out and the coaches picked players.

Darkhorse

United States23455 Posts

August 19 2014 03:22 GMT

#98

On August 19 2014 12:18 chipmonklord17 wrote:

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I imagine that if TL were playing in proleague the MVP HerO partnership would end.

Probably yes haha but it would be awkward to break that off so fast.

Also they'd have to provide some place for the players to live

stuchiu

Fiddler's Green42661 Posts

August 19 2014 03:22 GMT

#99

Oh actually, no one mentioned this yet, but I guess you could team up Axiom with a bunch of Chinese/Tw teams?

SEALteamSIX

1 Post

August 19 2014 03:24 GMT

#100

I think it could work if it was still all offline and there are quality players, which would require team combos, so I could see teams like Axiom/Acer, TL/EG, etc being candidates.