Wait I have a thought: Alex Garfield desperately wants to get EG in pro league again, but doesn't have enough players. He goes through the Korean free agents, but it seems no one is available. Finally he remembers one last player he can try.

He begs.

aLive looks down and smiles. And walks away. Then revival and Oz run Alex over with a range rover end of story

covetousrat

2109 Posts

August 19 2014 03:27 GMT

#102

Liquid, EG, Acer gogo

Dodgin

Canada39254 Posts

August 19 2014 03:28 GMT

#103

On August 19 2014 12:24 Darkhorse wrote:
Wait I have a thought: Alex Garfield desperately wants to get EG in pro league again, but doesn't have enough players. He goes through the Korean free agents, but it seems no one is available. Finally he remembers one last player he can try.

He begs.

aLive looks down and smiles. And walks away. Then revival and Oz run Alex over with a range rover end of story

wow I totally forgot Alive was on EG, I remembered Oz and Revival though.

Darkhorse

United States23455 Posts

August 19 2014 03:28 GMT

#104

On August 19 2014 12:28 Dodgin wrote:

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wow I totally forgot Alive was on EG, I remembered Oz and Revival though.

You have an ugly soul

Dodgin

Canada39254 Posts

August 19 2014 03:29 GMT

#105

Actually I just forgot Alive, period.

Tehhaxorz

Australia1 Post

August 19 2014 03:31 GMT

#106

Well at least this way Prime would just be the worst kespa team in Proleague.

Arceus

Vietnam8332 Posts

August 19 2014 03:35 GMT

#107

On August 19 2014 12:20 stuchiu wrote:

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This is the same PL that had MVP and Prime and T8 and Air Force Ace. How can you say that with a straight face?

Because non-Korean teams are most definitely semi-dedicated to playing in SPL with their concentration on travel and whatnot. Thats the only issue I have with foreign teams (and partnership also)

captainwaffles

United States1050 Posts

August 19 2014 03:35 GMT

#108

The more teams the better! get everyone!

ne4aJIb

Russian Federation3209 Posts

August 19 2014 03:41 GMT

#109

AIRFORCE ACE!!!

Redrot

United States446 Posts

August 19 2014 03:47 GMT

#110

Acer? Axiom?

Wingblade

United States1806 Posts

August 19 2014 03:48 GMT

#111

No way EG or TeamLiquid commits to Proleague again after than complete disaster last time. Foreign teams don't fit in Proleague, yes on a day to day basis they probably have enough raw skill to contend, but they can't compete with the raw dedication, focus, and training KeSPA teams put into Proleague. We've already seen it once. Not to mention these teams making a full commitment would require foreign teams to pay for a Korean house, play in virtually zero foreign tournaments(outside WCS of course), and invest a lot more money into participating in general.

Why would a sponsor from Europe or America be interested in paying for an entire team to travel to another land where they have much less marketing and growth potential, and having those same players not competing in tournaments where they can show their brands to consumers who have easier access to their products.

SC2Towelie

United States561 Posts

August 19 2014 03:48 GMT

#112

I like this idea not because I want to see foreigners in Proleague (there's very few that could really compete at that level imo), but because there are a lot of really good Korean players on foreign teams that I want to see in Proleague (I'm looking at you, Jaedong).

TheDougler

Canada8302 Posts

August 19 2014 03:49 GMT

#113

The last teamleague I watched every game of was the final two seasons of GSTL. That was because I was so excited for the cinderella story of Axiom Acer. If either of those two teams joined proleague and could commit to it you bet I would watch every game, and I think that if they re-formed their partnership I think they'd stand a good chance of reaching the playoffs.

If it was open to any team with the resources to apply then I think the format would have to change. Maybe eliminating the bottom two teams each month or something like that. I don't think the quality of competition would decrease. It didn't when EGTL played. Sure EGTL got beat up pretty bad, but they put up a fight enough times, and regardless of how EGTL did every team was playing their best no matter what it seemed regardless of who they were playing.

SetGuitarsToKill

Canada28396 Posts

August 19 2014 03:52 GMT

#114

It's an interesting opportunity, but I don't really see any teams wanting to commit their players to Proleague. It limits the visibility of those players and also gives them far less of a chance to win other tournaments. It's been said enough, but the only teams that could really even do it would be Axiom, Acer, Liquid or some partnership of those teams, plus maybe a mercenary or two from some other teams. It's really hard for any non-koreans to commit to korea full time. And just look at what happened to State. He's there now on a Proleague team and you never hear from him or see him. It would be awesome to see Axiom/Acer try and make a mark but it just doesn't make sense for anyone from a financial or marketing standpoint. Sorry Kespa, it ain't happening.

dyDrawer

Canada438 Posts

August 19 2014 03:53 GMT

#115

I'm not really a big fan of the idea. No offense to any foreign fans, but I think most if not all foreign teams will get COMPLETELY STOMPED by KeSPA teams. We want to see close contests, not one-sided slaughters.

Even the "foreign" Koreans might not be able to stop the might of these faceless KeSPA giants. The recent KeSPA cup should give us a pretty good idea: foreign fan favs like TaeJa, Jaedong, Polt, HerO and HyuN fell early and fell hard. TaeJa's 0-2 loss to Action, Jaedong's 0-2 loss to DeParture, Polt's 0-2 loss to Trust are particularly alarming, as these are often considered some of the best foreign Koreans and aces of their respective teams, and all 3 lost 0-2 to bench players on KeSPA teams. Whether that was due to lag or form issues, we don't know, but surely this isn't a good sign.

Even if an international all-star team is formed, there is this huge issue with organization and coaching. Proleague is heavily about preparation. Just by having a bunch of really good players isn't enough (@SKT1 from 2013 season). With the foreign players coming and going, leaving and going back to Korea for WCS and what not, I really can't see an all star team do well.

What I think might be viable, is work with StarTale, which is sort of one of a kind now: not belonging to KeSPA but a Korean team from head to toe. It has some pretty good players left, like Curious and Life. I know they're short on funds, but if KeSPA can help with securing some good loans and alliances (Acer comes to mind, INnoVation is playing in GSL anyway), this could be the beginning of something great.

wrier

Canada291 Posts

August 19 2014 04:00 GMT

#116

AxiomAcer combo would do very well in Proleague. They did win the final GSTL.

KanoCoke

Japan863 Posts

August 19 2014 04:00 GMT

#117

Hey Chud,

Team Liquid, EG, Acer, Millenium, Axiom, ROOT and yoe Flash Wolves.

Jowj

United States248 Posts

August 19 2014 04:02 GMT

#118

I think that depending on the teams accepted it could definitely lower the competitive nature of the league. You would have to be very careful with who you allowed in as well as make sure that the league is a priority for them. EG-TL was an obvious example of a team where the league wasn't a priority until Too Late and it showed for sure in their games.

That said, i'd be most excited about:

Axiom
Acer
Any team with Jaedong on it
YoeFlashWolves
mYinsanity

Caihead

Canada8550 Posts

August 19 2014 04:03 GMT

#119

Would be totally amazing if Chinese players could play in proleague but I don't know if they would be up for that since it's basically giving up playing in Chinese offline events.