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Marou
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1371 Posts
August 19 2014 04:58 GMT
#141
The idea of an all start team sounds fun.
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StarcraftMan
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada507 Posts
August 19 2014 04:59 GMT
#142
Chuddinator, I think an all star non-Kespa team would be the best. You can include Innovation, Jaedong, Taeja, and some top western players and Korean players. Scarlett would be an obvious top western player because she already spends lots of time in Korea.
TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
August 19 2014 04:59 GMT
#143
viewership would definetely increase, but the overall level of competition will decrease as foreign teams just wont be as good. It would be hard to implement an offline setting for everyone to participate in (if foreign teams are even willing to make that trip in the first place). This would require a bigger incentive to compete e.g. higher prize pool, qualifiers for paid flight trips etc.
I do like this idea though and I hope we can see some diversity in proleague.
Urth
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1254 Posts
August 19 2014 05:01 GMT
#144
EG-TL and Axiom-Acer are definitely the top foreigner team picks!
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meshfusion
Profile Joined June 2014
Russian Federation232 Posts
August 19 2014 05:07 GMT
#145
speaking of Proleague, how about you fix the VODS for all the peopl ethat pay ? :/
Sanders
Profile Joined June 2010
97 Posts
August 19 2014 05:11 GMT
#146
My absolute favourite option would be getting an all-star team of non-Koreans involved. Snute, Scarlett, Vortix, Major, Sen, that would be cool.

And/or a team of all-star non-Kespa Koreans. Jaedong, Innovation, MMA, etc.
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
August 19 2014 05:13 GMT
#147
On August 19 2014 14:11 Sanders wrote:
My absolute favourite option would be getting an all-star team of non-Koreans involved. Snute, Scarlett, Vortix, Major, Sen, that would be cool.

And/or a team of all-star non-Kespa Koreans. Jaedong, Innovation, MMA, etc.


and they'd be bottom of the league.

No good training environment and coach = no good team. You can't just throw a bunch of good players together and expect them to work well in a teamleague.
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-19 05:15:03
August 19 2014 05:13 GMT
#148
I'm not sure why people are persuaded that the quality of play would necessarily decrease. The performance of Axiom-Acer in the last two GSTL's though this was a while ago shows that foreign teams can definitely compete on equal or superior footing with some of the teams in Proleague (IM, MVP and Prime). The right foreign team especially an all-star team would almost certainly be middle of the pack or better given appropriate priority management and coaching.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
August 19 2014 05:16 GMT
#149
On August 19 2014 14:11 Sanders wrote:
My absolute favourite option would be getting an all-star team of non-Koreans involved. Snute, Scarlett, Vortix, Major, Sen, that would be cool.

And/or a team of all-star non-Kespa Koreans. Jaedong, Innovation, MMA, etc.


Good luck getting any top foreigners, much less all of them, to commit to proleague and give up all the foreign tournaments and their WCS potential.
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dustinth
Profile Joined September 2012
China205 Posts
August 19 2014 05:18 GMT
#150
On August 19 2014 14:13 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
I'm not sure why people are persuaded that the quality of play would necessarily decrease. The performance of Axiom-Acer in the last two GSTL's though this was a while ago shows that foreign teams can definitely compete on equal or superior footing with some of the teams in Proleague (IM, MVP and Prime). The right foreign team especially an all-star team would almost certainly be middle of the pack or better given appropriate priority management and coaching.


GSTL is far away from the same level of Proleague.

At the beginning of previous SPL, I was thinking IM may be better than Samsung or CJ, considering their player line up at that time. and you know the result.
IAmBelieve
Profile Joined November 2012
Canada70 Posts
August 19 2014 05:20 GMT
#151
Get axiom in! please no foreign teams!
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
August 19 2014 05:26 GMT
#152
On August 19 2014 14:13 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2014 14:11 Sanders wrote:
My absolute favourite option would be getting an all-star team of non-Koreans involved. Snute, Scarlett, Vortix, Major, Sen, that would be cool.

And/or a team of all-star non-Kespa Koreans. Jaedong, Innovation, MMA, etc.


and they'd be bottom of the league.

No good training environment and coach = no good team. You can't just throw a bunch of good players together and expect them to work well in a teamleague.


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Telon Petrides
Profile Joined September 2013
Canada58 Posts
August 19 2014 05:35 GMT
#153
It would be good to open this up to Foreign Teams, especially Acer, Axiom, EG, TL, etc have top players that would be competitive and good for foreign viewership.
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-19 05:36:37
August 19 2014 05:35 GMT
#154
On August 19 2014 11:54 Meckie wrote:
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On August 19 2014 11:46 Tobblish wrote:
Having foreign teams make their way into PL wouldn't be the best imo.
There's not a lot of players on the teams that could be good enough.

A Foreign Allstar team would be cool tho.
Adding in available players to the roster for a Round or two and changing out players for new available players wanting to go.
So instead of having a set roster the team could exchange players heavily for Rounds and maybe have a house for the players participating to live together in.


Acer: Innovation, MMA and Scarlett.
Axiom: Alicia, Heart, Ryung and Impact.
Liquid: Snute, Bunny, HerO and TaeJa
yoe Flash Wolves: San and Leenock
iG: Jim.

The vast majority of the above-mentioned are definitely capable of taking out the "weaker" KeSPA-players. That's not an assumption - that's a fact.

And a roster needs 6 players for playoff, not a single roster you mentions have that.
Thats why I'm for a team where all foreign teams and teamless players can get a opportunity to play in.
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swag_bro
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
Japan782 Posts
August 19 2014 05:36 GMT
#155
Who would play for EG? JD and JD?
They hate us 'cause they ain't us.
Brutaxilos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2633 Posts
August 19 2014 05:37 GMT
#156
I would love a world Proleague! As some stated above, having some joint foreign team would be nice. I would also love maybe 1 or 2 Chinese teams, I think they could really get somewhere with a continuous league like Proleague.
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
August 19 2014 05:38 GMT
#157
On August 19 2014 14:20 IAmBelieve wrote:
Get axiom in! please no foreign teams!


Axiom is a foreign team though.

On August 19 2014 14:18 dustinth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2014 14:13 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
I'm not sure why people are persuaded that the quality of play would necessarily decrease. The performance of Axiom-Acer in the last two GSTL's though this was a while ago shows that foreign teams can definitely compete on equal or superior footing with some of the teams in Proleague (IM, MVP and Prime). The right foreign team especially an all-star team would almost certainly be middle of the pack or better given appropriate priority management and coaching.


GSTL is far away from the same level of Proleague.

At the beginning of previous SPL, I was thinking IM may be better than Samsung or CJ, considering their player line up at that time. and you know the result.


Its really all theoretical at this point, since we don't know what shape or form the superteam would take or even if it exists, and with the status of several Korean teams next season very uncertain; with Prime losing some of its lineup, with IM losing their whole lineup, and MVP rebuilding entirely. My position is just that if such a team had existed last season it would have been very capable of defeating at least the bottom three teams, since Axiom-Acer had previously exhibited such characteristics in the GSTL. This foreign alliance would thus not have lowered the overall quality of Proleague, which is an opinion that several people in this thread have expressed previously based on the simplistic reasoning that they such a team would be foreign.
Ace Frehley
Profile Joined December 2012
2030 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-19 05:48:05
August 19 2014 05:43 GMT
#158
Foreign teams travelling around the world would fail so bad in PL
It'd have hype in the first round, then it'd die in flames like eg-tl


Edit
The reason a team would fail just for being foreigner would be because they would not commit
They wouldn't pass a dreamhack for the sake of proleague
I have my doubts if they would pass a random online tournament with free money on the line going deep into the night in a proleague day
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Jeyopo
Profile Joined November 2012
France35 Posts
August 19 2014 06:03 GMT
#159
Bring back JD in SPL !
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
August 19 2014 06:11 GMT
#160
It would absolutely help the scene and the viewers that stopped watching will come from all parts of the woodwork
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