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2014-2015 Proleague Plans Opening SPL to the world - Page 9

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OgerGolg
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany65 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-19 06:24:04
August 19 2014 06:22 GMT
#161
Great Idea I hope you will do it

An All-Star team would be a good option, when most of the existing rosters of the teams can't live in Korea, but normally you should invite the orignal teams. GL with this step
OERTW
Split Behemoth
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
France104 Posts
August 19 2014 06:41 GMT
#162
Would be so awesome.
I would love to see Acer, Liquid, Axiom or mYinsanity in Proleague;
"I scout when i push" Adelscott
DARKING
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Mexico675 Posts
August 19 2014 06:48 GMT
#163
If this happens, I'm expecting to see the Chinese and/or Taiwanese jumping to it. They're the closest to Korea and have enough players and skill to make an interesting challenge.
LiquipediaMexican Liquipedia staff and Terran player. I tweet things @DARKING665.
SelimSC
Profile Joined March 2014
Turkey39 Posts
August 19 2014 06:49 GMT
#164
Acer, Axiom, TL, EG in any combination.
Life always finds a way.
Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
August 19 2014 06:52 GMT
#165
I don't think any foreign team is on the level of participating in Proleague. You could get like an foreign all-star team, but in the end the players with commitments outside of Korea would be a joke cause the amount of preparation that would go into Proleague by them would be marginally lower then any of the Korean teams.

Therefore I would propose, if you really want to open it up which I don't think is a good idea, to get either Chinese (iG) or Taiwanese (Yoe Flash Wolves) teams in or maybe some all-star lineup from Taiwan/China. Just no more EG-TL joke teams plz.
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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
August 19 2014 07:00 GMT
#166
Meh probaly wont happen but I would love a commited Axiom-Acer in PL with acer signing 1-2 more koreans.
Buuuut it wont happen.
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
J0k3
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden40 Posts
August 19 2014 07:08 GMT
#167
I love the idea of an all-star team!
JD, Scarlett, Taeja,
stevorino
Profile Joined April 2011
957 Posts
August 19 2014 07:09 GMT
#168
great idea, but make sure the foreign team(s) is/(are) competitive. i always enjoyed the tl matches in the forst sc2 spl round
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Rescawen
Profile Joined April 2010
Finland1028 Posts
August 19 2014 07:11 GMT
#169
The only realistic possibility here is an all star team. It would probably happen if kespa supports TB and enlarges the axiom house. You could have top foreigners like snute, bunny etc rotating in and out. Innovation mma jaedong taeja etc being there more often. Kespa has to be flexible to make something like this work. If assembled it would be huge boost for viewer count and exposure.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 19 2014 07:14 GMT
#170
On August 19 2014 16:11 Rescawen wrote:
The only realistic possibility here is an all star team. It would probably happen if kespa supports TB and enlarges the axiom house. You could have top foreigners like snute, bunny etc rotating in and out. Innovation mma jaedong taeja etc being there more often. Kespa has to be flexible to make something like this work. If assembled it would be huge boost for viewer count and exposure.


TB's saint levels are being tested so hard
LoneYoShi
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
France1348 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-19 07:24:57
August 19 2014 07:15 GMT
#171
As everyone else, I'm super excited at the idea of having a more "open" ProLeague, with a bunch foreigners (or koreans from foreign teams) competing. But I do think that the results of said players/teams will heavily depend on how you include them in proleague. The EG-TL experiment showed that you can't just take good (or even great) players and make them play in proleague. As TB stated, without adequate coaching and training environment, this won't work.

So that's why I don't think just putting some kind of "allstar" team together and make them play in Proleague won't necessarily work that well. Another problem is the fact that a ProLeague season is super long (almost a year), and the players that we are talking about are actually interested in playing in weekend tournaments/WCS/other events, so getting them to fully commit for a whole ProLeague season won't be easy. Here are 3 potentials ideas (constructive feedback always welcome)

1. A good way to do it would be to have an allstar team in Korea, but:
- To require those players to focus primarily on ProLeague so they are competitive on don't drag the level of play down (no weekend tournament outside of korea during the time where they play in ProLeague)
- To allow easy and unlimited player changes between rounds
That way, the players interested would be able to go to Korea to train and participate in ProLeague fully (and show their real skill) but wouldn't have to commit for a whole year, just for one round or two (so they would still be able to participate in many weekend tournaments during the rest of they year). I don't really have any idea regarding who would provide the living accomodation/coaching staff for such an "allstar team" though.

2. Another idea would be to maybe allow "player exchanges" between kespa and non-kespa teams ? There are probable a few kespa players that are interested in taking part in foreign tournaments, so just as an example, imagine if KT could "trade" Stats against Innovation for a round or two. That way, Stats could play in overseas tournament and teamleagues with Acer (if he's interested in doing that ofc), and Inno would take his place in the KT house, benefit from the KT coaching and playing in Proleague in Stat's place.

3. Another idea could be to have all current korean kespa teams to partner up with non-kespa teams/players, and play bo7 instead of bo5 where each team would have to field one non-kespa player at each match. But this would enforce all team to get partnerships, even those who aren't really interested, so that's not great.
Pontius Pirate
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United States1557 Posts
August 19 2014 07:26 GMT
#172
YfW-AxiomAcer, and MYi-LiquidEG. If smaller teams like Root want to get in on it too, maybe they could partner with one of the existing KeSPA teams, or maybe even one of the foreign teams.
"I had to close the door so my parents wouldn't judge me." - ZombieGrub during the ShitfaceTradeTV stream
kaby
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation195 Posts
August 19 2014 07:27 GMT
#173
We obviously want MBCGame HERO hell yeah
LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
August 19 2014 07:28 GMT
#174
it's time for F.United 2.0
Writer for Red bull (Fr) and Iron Squid (En/Fr) @ClemLeLfe on twitter
klup
Profile Joined May 2013
France612 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-19 07:34:17
August 19 2014 07:31 GMT
#175
I would love to see a team "world" a combo between all the team playing in Acer teamstory cup sending the best compo to challenge proleague teams, any other team would get rekt or maybe a Acer-TL combo will be enough.

The real challenge however is to open proleague to be rebroadcast at EU-NA friendly time. A recent initiative of GSL allowing french crew Ogamingtv to broadcast GSL at european time is the way to go imo.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
August 19 2014 07:52 GMT
#176
Would be awesome to see foreigners in Proleague, but somehow I doubt that there will be many players willing to move to Korea and stay grounded there for an extended period of time. :-/
Sakkreth
Profile Joined February 2011
Lithuania1096 Posts
August 19 2014 07:53 GMT
#177
Axiom-Acer
EG-TL

Axiom-Acer:

INnovation +++
MMA ++
Scarlett ++
Nerchio +
Bly
Paranoid
Alicia ++
Crank ++
Heart ++
Ryung ++
Impact ++

EG-TL:

Jaedong +++
HuK +
Suppy
Xenocider
Demuslim
TaeJa +++
HerO +++
Bunny ++
Snute ++
TLO +
MaNa +
Ret +

One plus: Capable of winning some maps
Two pluses: Capable of being in the lineup successfully constantly winning 50%+ matches
Three pluses: Capable to be among top ranked players in proleague.

Both teams would be capable to compete, EGTL are more top heavy, but Axiom-Acer is more balanced, Axiom alone brings pretty muc hviable lineup, acer adds Ace in InNoVation and few other capable players, but mostly substitutes except for MMA. EGTL would have 3 monster players and 2 arguably best foreigners at this point who are more than capable of taking some maps in proleague making it scary 5 player lineup.
WhiteRa, NaNiWa, Creator, sOs, Krr, ForGG, MMA, Zest ||
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-19 07:54:28
August 19 2014 07:53 GMT
#178
On August 19 2014 16:52 JustPassingBy wrote:
Would be awesome to see foreigners in Proleague, but somehow I doubt that there will be many players willing to move to Korea and stay grounded there for an extended period of time. :-/


What if there were partner studios in Europe and America from which those teams were allowed to play?
Would be pretty awesome watching Proleague from Cologne with Liquid staying there.
crazyweasel
Profile Joined March 2011
607 Posts
August 19 2014 07:54 GMT
#179
make an allstar foreigner team, but dont invite only 1 team to get smashed, eg tl or axio alone wont stand up the skills needed. make that allstar like back when dimaga ran trough mvp and nestea
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
August 19 2014 07:56 GMT
#180
On August 19 2014 16:53 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2014 16:52 JustPassingBy wrote:
Would be awesome to see foreigners in Proleague, but somehow I doubt that there will be many players willing to move to Korea and stay grounded there for an extended period of time. :-/


What if there were partner studios in Europe and America from which those teams were allowed to play?
Would be pretty awesome watching Proleague from Cologne with Liquid staying there.


That would be awesome, but would they be willing to do something like that?
I mean that would lessen the live viewing experience by quite a lot for the Korean audience, unless adding new teams would increase the number of games by so much that some have to be played without live audience.
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