Honestly, outside of Ryung, MMA, Innovation, and MAYBE Scarlett, I don't think that Axion-Acer would have the depth necessary to pulls off wins vs your KTs, Jin Air, and CJ. Maybe they can edge out Khan

Even Samsung would be to hard for them with Dear, Stork, RorO, Shine, Reality, Solar and Hurricane and the only player on Axiom-Acer that understands how to prepare in Proleague due to experience is Innovation.

boxerfred

Germany8360 Posts

August 19 2014 18:55 GMT

#403

On August 20 2014 03:06 boxerfred wrote:

Poll: Foreign teams in Proleague?

(Vote): Great
(Vote): Good
(Vote): Meh
(Vote): Bad
(Vote): Undecided

Poll: Fav foreign team in Proleague (in disregard of the actual probability)

(Vote): EG
(Vote): Axiom
(Vote): Acer
(Vote): Teamliquid
(Vote): Mouzsports
(Vote): Team Millenium
(Vote): Alien Invasion
(Vote): Newrosoft
(Vote): Gamania Bears
(Vote): Hong Kong eSports (lol, go Sen!)
(Vote): Wayi Spider
(Vote): Allstars Squad
(Vote): Invictus Gaming

Ah, sorry for excluding mYi. Didn't happen on purpose.

SuperHofmann

Italy1741 Posts

August 19 2014 18:57 GMT

#404

On August 20 2014 03:26 Xiphos wrote:

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What about Crank, Heart and Impact?

boxerfred

Germany8360 Posts

August 19 2014 19:01 GMT

#405

On August 20 2014 03:57 SuperHofmann wrote:

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What about Crank, Heart and Impact?

It's not a good time to be Jaedong's son, so you better count only Crank and Heart. And they are not Proleague material IMHO.

Lorning

Belgica34432 Posts

August 19 2014 19:01 GMT

#406

On August 20 2014 03:55 boxerfred wrote:

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Ah, sorry for excluding mYi. Didn't happen on purpose.

And Yoe

boxerfred

Germany8360 Posts

August 19 2014 19:05 GMT

#407

On August 20 2014 04:01 Lorning wrote:

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And Yoe

I obviously suck. Can a mod edit that poll?

ColdSCII

United States12 Posts

August 19 2014 19:14 GMT

#408

It would be awesome to see a foreign team in proleague, but to be honest I think mostly the only reason people in the NA scene don't watch proleague is because it's at 2 AM PST.

HoZBlooddrop

Italy324 Posts

August 19 2014 19:50 GMT

#409

it would be awsome, but also so hard ot have the teams be there live imho!

i would definitely love to see more teams in there :D

Beta2k

Austria218 Posts

August 19 2014 19:58 GMT

#410

only an all-star team makes sense imho. viewership would heavily profit from this. even more than if only one team would get invited.

please do it !

DJHelium

Sweden13480 Posts

August 19 2014 20:01 GMT

#411

Gekk02

Switzerland50 Posts

August 19 2014 20:03 GMT

#412

Invictus Gaming, MyInsanity, EG-TL and Acer

Altough atm only EG-TL and Acers seems realistic

sparklyresidue

United States5524 Posts

August 19 2014 20:06 GMT

#413

Amazing. Just watched the finals VODs and I've gotta say I'm hungry for more.

Zealously

East Gorteau22261 Posts

August 19 2014 20:11 GMT

#414

On August 20 2014 00:47 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:

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i'm sorry to say but your opinion is wrong. All 3 would probably finish below Prime if they tried.

Who does Prime have beyond Creator? Byun is missing and doesn't seem to be coming back, the rest of the roster consists of Terror, State, Kassia (and possibly a few others I'm forgetting about). Meanwhile, Acer has Innovation/MMA/Scarlett (objectively a stronger roster than Prime's) while ST has Curious, Hack, Panic, Pet and Life. I'm not sure what measuring stick you're using, but you might want to update yourself because acting like Prime is miles ahead of Acer, let alone ST, is ridiculous.

neptunusfisk

2286 Posts

August 19 2014 20:12 GMT

#415

Innovation and Jaedong and I'm satisfied

FueledUpAndReadyToGo

Netherlands30548 Posts

August 19 2014 20:13 GMT

#416

Son Suk hee ‏@StardustSC2 12m
and.. second about pro league i trying to make union of team outside of korea i dont know it gonna happened or not but.
anyway good isn't it

HoZBlooddrop

Italy324 Posts

August 19 2014 20:13 GMT

#417

i hope prime gets some sick pickups ;(

SetGuitarsToKill

Canada28396 Posts

August 19 2014 20:14 GMT

#418

On August 20 2014 05:11 Zealously wrote:

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Good luck keeping Inno, MMA and Scarlett in korea for an entire season of Proleage. If the whole team was completely commited then they could do it but it would never happen. I did word it poorly, I shouldn't have said they'd finish below, just that it would be impossible to get to that point.

AWalker9

United Kingdom7229 Posts

August 19 2014 20:25 GMT

#419

On August 20 2014 04:01 boxerfred wrote:

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It's not a good time to be Jaedong's son, so you better count only Crank and Heart. And they are not Proleague material IMHO.

Considering how Heart's been doing in TvZ lately he would be a great zerg sniper.

looknohands119

United States815 Posts

August 19 2014 20:25 GMT

#420

On August 20 2014 00:04 geokilla wrote:

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On August 19 2014 11:00 looknohands119 wrote:

On August 19 2014 10:47 Chuddinater wrote:
I hope everyone has enjoyed this season of Proleague as much as we have. There were plenty of exciting matches and the finals will be an event I will remember for the rest of my life, especially FlaSh kicking the soccer ball with the names of the SKT players into the crowd.

Looking forward to the next season of Proleague we want to make it more exciting then it was this year. We are toying with the idea of opening Proleague to the world. If we did open up Proleague next year to all teams which teams would you be most excited to watch? Do you think if we allowed foreign teams to enter would it lower the competitive level or increase it?

Obviously the foreign teams who are most qualified are Evil Geniuses, TeamLiquid, Acer, Axiom, and some of the big Chinese/Taiwanese teams. While in the short term, opening Proleague up might slightly decrease the average skill level, I think that it will dramatically increase it in the long-term. Think of it as an investment into developing "new blood" that will bring more innovation to drive progress in the Korean scene and that will draw more money and sponsorship by expanding Proleague's appeal outside of Korea.

Edit: Who knows, maybe it would be incentive enough for some established teams from other games (LoL, DOTA2, CS:GO, etc...) to create SC2 squads or even for new non-Korean teams to form.

Edit #2: Also, why the hell is everyone assuming that KeSPA wouldn't help reduce the financial barrier. Seems like them even considering opening things up marks a very large attitude shift from KeSPA compared to when EG-TL tried to compete. It isn't a stretch to think that the traditional buy in price would be heavily reduced or that the chosen team(s) would receive monetary and logistical help to make it more viable.

TL'DR, while there might be some short term disadvantages and costs, its pretty hard to argue that it is the wrong move for either Starcraft or Korean eSports.

How are they going to play though? Because it sounds like next Proleague is going to be an online tournament if they open it up to international teams. It's next to impossible for foreign teams to all stay in Korea just for Proleague.

I suggested that KeSPA would likely pony up a good portion of the required cash for a foreign team looking to join and live in Korea, at least for the first year. This would make it MUCH easier for a foreign team to live in Korea for Proleague. Not only that but Proleague's growth would mean that the exposure a team receives (especially in Korea and China, since SPL was quite popular in both places) would be pretty damn good in comparison to what most teams get going to foreign events, except, no more travel fatigue because you are staying in Korea and your exposure happens like clockwork, guaranteed at least once per week.