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Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
April 16 2014 23:16 GMT
#81
Too bad Flash got knocked out but I wouldn't mind seeing Shine cheese his way to the final. It would say a lot about the state of things imo.
There's no S in KT. :P
zenkicker
Profile Joined December 2008
257 Posts
April 17 2014 00:12 GMT
#82
I admire Flash and all but does he still needs to be called god in SC2?
I you cant beat them, join them.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20344 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-17 00:24:49
April 17 2014 00:24 GMT
#83
Damn, i read the title as
Flash eliminated Ragnarok, Shine and others to advance to Code S


that bloody comma
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
BlackGosu
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1046 Posts
April 17 2014 00:26 GMT
#84
i say this is TLs fault for publishing that elephant article. kespa players are jinxed!
Jar Jar Binks
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9175 Posts
April 17 2014 00:32 GMT
#85
On April 17 2014 09:26 BlackGosu wrote:
i say this is TLs fault for publishing that elephant article. kespa players are jinxed!

Yep, so jinxed they've won the last 4 GSL's and produced 7/8 finalists.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Yakikorosu
Profile Joined March 2013
1203 Posts
April 17 2014 01:05 GMT
#86
On April 17 2014 08:16 Baarn wrote:
Too bad Flash got knocked out but I wouldn't mind seeing Shine cheese his way to the final. It would say a lot about the state of things imo.


The only state of things relevant to Shine is that if you play a known cheeser and do greedy builds you'll probably lose when he, actually, you know, cheeses you. That's the way it's always been and there's absolutely nothing wrong with it.

Though I have to say the casters were really playing down Shine's skill too much, making it sound like he's the Zerg version of BitByBit and shocked that he could win a macro game. He cheeses more than most, but he's also shown strong macro games plenty of times, including in Code S. For example:

imrusty269
Profile Joined January 2014
United States1404 Posts
April 17 2014 01:07 GMT
#87
While I think that Flash is overrated, there's no shame in being knocked out in code A as terran in the current state of the game.
Bbyong | MMA | Polt | Dream | Maru | Mvp
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
April 17 2014 01:13 GMT
#88
On April 17 2014 09:32 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2014 09:26 BlackGosu wrote:
i say this is TLs fault for publishing that elephant article. kespa players are jinxed!

Yep, so jinxed they've won the last 4 GSL's and produced 7/8 finalists.


With Soo taking up 25% of GSL finalists slots the real question is why are KT Zergs so good at SC2?
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
WiggyB
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom103 Posts
April 17 2014 01:38 GMT
#89
Oh flash! Why you good at Proleague? But no good at GSL?
Ever noticed you can type "Starcraft" with just your keyboard hand?
forsakeNXE
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany539 Posts
April 17 2014 01:49 GMT
#90
Inno for terran Hope in Code S Hwaiting!
Let's learn together!
CYFAWS
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden275 Posts
April 17 2014 02:36 GMT
#91
don't you retire, flash
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
April 17 2014 02:39 GMT
#92
On April 17 2014 10:05 Yakikorosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2014 08:16 Baarn wrote:
Too bad Flash got knocked out but I wouldn't mind seeing Shine cheese his way to the final. It would say a lot about the state of things imo.


The only state of things relevant to Shine is that if you play a known cheeser and do greedy builds you'll probably lose when he, actually, you know, cheeses you. That's the way it's always been and there's absolutely nothing wrong with it.

Though I have to say the casters were really playing down Shine's skill too much, making it sound like he's the Zerg version of BitByBit and shocked that he could win a macro game. He cheeses more than most, but he's also shown strong macro games plenty of times, including in Code S. For example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_heZoRVmFo

Solution:

https://www.youtube.com/user/expKR/videos
tomastaz
Profile Joined January 2013
United States976 Posts
April 17 2014 04:51 GMT
#93
Flash can't practice for GSL only cares about Proleague
No church in the wild --- @tzhang0126
Amaroq64
Profile Joined October 2011
United States75 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-17 06:03:13
April 17 2014 06:01 GMT
#94
So many zergs simply because there were so many zergs playing. We all know those protosses are going to kick the shit out of the zergs and it's gonna be mostly PvP's at the end.

Just like every other tournament, it's gonna be a protoss building up a death ball, a-moving it over the zerg's army while he eats popcorn, and then he'll get up on stage and receive his first place cash prize and trophy.

User was temp banned for this post.
A is A.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
April 17 2014 06:58 GMT
#95
Flash eliminated again in Code A and by none other than Shine lol. Rough :/
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1981 Posts
April 17 2014 08:34 GMT
#96
I wonder why Flash is so much better in Teamleague.
Total Annihilation Zero
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
April 17 2014 09:30 GMT
#97
On April 17 2014 09:32 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2014 09:26 BlackGosu wrote:
i say this is TLs fault for publishing that elephant article. kespa players are jinxed!

Yep, so jinxed they've won the last 4 GSL's and produced 7/8 finalists.

None of those are bw gods though. The original point of the article was, that early switchers (MC, Mvp, Nestea and so on) were mediocre in bw and so the skill of the guys who dominated bw would directly transition and they would dominate SC2 as well. That point is proven wrong at this point, with neither Flash nor Stork nor Fantasy nor Bisu having a ro8 run after more than a year. That is what was rightfully critisized about the Elephant article. The kespa players who switched had the best infrastructure and some of the best RTS talent on the planet, it was clear that they would make a huge impact, though a bit of their GSL results might have to do with a lot of talent outside of kespa travelling to WCS EU (San/MMA/JJakji/MC/Mvp) or NA(Bomber/Taeja/Hyun/HerO/Revival/Polt). But really, the article itself has been wrong at this point, neither do the bw legends dominate nor are there 300 pros and semipros, that can be named better than Maru/Life/Bomber/PartinG for example.
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9175 Posts
April 17 2014 09:51 GMT
#98
On April 17 2014 18:30 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2014 09:32 Scarecrow wrote:
On April 17 2014 09:26 BlackGosu wrote:
i say this is TLs fault for publishing that elephant article. kespa players are jinxed!

Yep, so jinxed they've won the last 4 GSL's and produced 7/8 finalists.

None of those are bw gods though. The original point of the article was, that early switchers (MC, Mvp, Nestea and so on) were mediocre in bw and so the skill of the guys who dominated bw would directly transition and they would dominate SC2 as well. That point is proven wrong at this point, with neither Flash nor Stork nor Fantasy nor Bisu having a ro8 run after more than a year. That is what was rightfully critisized about the Elephant article. The kespa players who switched had the best infrastructure and some of the best RTS talent on the planet, it was clear that they would make a huge impact, though a bit of their GSL results might have to do with a lot of talent outside of kespa travelling to WCS EU (San/MMA/JJakji/MC/Mvp) or NA(Bomber/Taeja/Hyun/HerO/Revival/Polt). But really, the article itself has been wrong at this point, neither do the bw legends dominate nor are there 300 pros and semipros, that can be named better than Maru/Life/Bomber/PartinG for example.

Did I mention the article? Did he say the BW gods were jinxed? He said 'kespa players' were jinxed and I refuted that. Then for some reason you launch into a completely unnecessary spiel on why the elephant article is wrong, which has been written ad infinitum elsewhere. Well played.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-17 10:01:53
April 17 2014 10:01 GMT
#99
On April 17 2014 18:51 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2014 18:30 Xoronius wrote:
On April 17 2014 09:32 Scarecrow wrote:
On April 17 2014 09:26 BlackGosu wrote:
i say this is TLs fault for publishing that elephant article. kespa players are jinxed!

Yep, so jinxed they've won the last 4 GSL's and produced 7/8 finalists.

None of those are bw gods though. The original point of the article was, that early switchers (MC, Mvp, Nestea and so on) were mediocre in bw and so the skill of the guys who dominated bw would directly transition and they would dominate SC2 as well. That point is proven wrong at this point, with neither Flash nor Stork nor Fantasy nor Bisu having a ro8 run after more than a year. That is what was rightfully critisized about the Elephant article. The kespa players who switched had the best infrastructure and some of the best RTS talent on the planet, it was clear that they would make a huge impact, though a bit of their GSL results might have to do with a lot of talent outside of kespa travelling to WCS EU (San/MMA/JJakji/MC/Mvp) or NA(Bomber/Taeja/Hyun/HerO/Revival/Polt). But really, the article itself has been wrong at this point, neither do the bw legends dominate nor are there 300 pros and semipros, that can be named better than Maru/Life/Bomber/PartinG for example.

Did I mention the article? Did he say the BW gods were jinxed? He said 'kespa players' were jinxed and I refuted that. Then for some reason you launch into a completely unnecessary spiel on why the elephant article is wrong, which has been written ad infinitum elsewhere. Well played.

I'm not trying to start a discussion, I'm trying to clarify. And with mentioning the article, it is to assume that he implied top bw players instead of just kespa. Especially since Flash got eliminated by two other kespa players. So, yeah if you make a passive aggressive comment towards someone mentioning the article, people will talk about the article. Shouldn't be that surprising.
igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
April 17 2014 10:17 GMT
#100
Poor flash!
MVP <3 MKP <3 DRG <3
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