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sharkie
Austria18774 Posts
On April 17 2014 02:59 ssxsilver wrote: But then that doesn't really explain his proleague performance. If anything, the argument is that PL bo1's are more favorable towards cheese/trick plays. Well most losses in PL to Flash have been cheese/trick plays. But Flash just really prepares very well for PL | ||
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vult
United States9400 Posts
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Amazonic
Sweden239 Posts
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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
esf vs kespa was not what the article was talking about... + Show Spoiler + I think he was talking about the assumption that the better you are at BW then the better you would be at SC2 => Which was what the article was talking about. With the assumption: MVP => "okay" BW Player/Best SC2 Player And then concluding that: BW Players who were better than MVP will dominate like/more than MVP. That didn't happen. What we have is some Kespa players are better than others but the quality of their skills in BW did not transpose to their quality of skills in SC2. As an example, Flash/JD/Bisu no longer being the top of their races. None of them can even get through Code A it seems. Are they good players? Yes, they are amazing players. But Flash is no longer God and its no longer ZvDong. The actual true conclusion of "its depends on player to player, some will be really good when the transition happens while some won't be as good" is not as exciting a conclusion but is more the truth than the actual hypothesis of the argument. He shouldn't have brought up the elephant though, it never leads to anything productive. + Show Spoiler + This post, for example. | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
edit: flash losing to shine just adds insult to injury, the way artosis described shine's play. which was indeed weird as hell | ||
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phil.ipp
Austria1067 Posts
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The_Templar
your Country52798 Posts
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kisoso
Bulgaria105 Posts
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Yakikorosu
1203 Posts
And as of now, Zerg is the predominant race in Code S (11 vs 10 Protoss). Did anyone else watching Flash do a fast 3-CC build against Shine get immediate flashbacks to INnoVation vs. Maru from the last OSL? What is it with these macro KeSPA terrans?! | ||
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McRatyn
Poland901 Posts
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FuRRie
Belgium815 Posts
Yeah you could 3CC in scbw due to metagame, you can't here flash, learn it :p | ||
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Yorkie
United States12612 Posts
On April 17 2014 04:29 McRatyn wrote: Wonder if Flash ever seriously considered how his style of play in BW translates to 2's races. Read in some interview he was thihking about Protoss, maybe not thnking hard enough? It's not even that P is doing well as of late (which would certainly help) just that maybe he'd be more comfortable to play with it and have some success both inside and outside of PL. He seriously considered switching to zerg when he first transitioned. At this point a race swap is really unlikely. He's still super good, and just on the brink of being elite. I don't think he needs such a drastic change to make it to the top | ||
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Grampz
United States2147 Posts
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GinDo
3327 Posts
Please Dayvie. For eSports | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
On April 17 2014 04:41 Yorkie wrote: He seriously considered switching to zerg when he first transitioned. At this point a race swap is really unlikely. He's still super good, and just on the brink of being elite. I don't think he needs such a drastic change to make it to the top Yeah it's funny because getting to Code A still means you're really good. You just need to go that extra mile to get to code S, I guess. | ||
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zEEzz
93 Posts
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Lonyo
United Kingdom3884 Posts
On April 17 2014 03:14 Thieving Magpie wrote: esf vs kespa was not what the article was talking about... + Show Spoiler + I think he was talking about the assumption that the better you are at BW then the better you would be at SC2 => Which was what the article was talking about. With the assumption: MVP => "okay" BW Player/Best SC2 Player And then concluding that: BW Players who were better than MVP will dominate like/more than MVP. That didn't happen. What we have is some Kespa players are better than others but the quality of their skills in BW did not transpose to their quality of skills in SC2. As an example, Flash/JD/Bisu no longer being the top of their races. None of them can even get through Code A it seems. Are they good players? Yes, they are amazing players. But Flash is no longer God and its no longer ZvDong. The actual true conclusion of "its depends on player to player, some will be really good when the transition happens while some won't be as good" is not as exciting a conclusion but is more the truth than the actual hypothesis of the argument. He shouldn't have brought up the elephant though, it never leads to anything productive. + Show Spoiler + This post, for example. ![[image loading]](http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1061446/flashjd.png) Also, Shine had the longest win streak in BW IIRC. Or second longest. And Hydra the MSL champ. In the MSL where Flash lost to Ssak. | ||
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rysecake
United States2632 Posts
On April 17 2014 01:44 SatedSC2 wrote: I'm glad that FlaSh got knocked out. Elephant in the Room: Never forgive, never forget =P who cares. he's still the greatest player in the most difficult competitive game of all time. | ||
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
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starslayer
United States696 Posts
On April 17 2014 02:51 mvdunecats wrote: So BW is basketball, and SC2 is baseball? lmao good one will be sad if he goes back to bw to me but wouldnt be surprised he did if he didnt make code a next season | ||
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