EPTSoo is legitimately one of the best players in Korea, haters can step on a lego.
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Squat
Sweden7978 Posts
Soo is legitimately one of the best players in Korea, haters can step on a lego. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On March 30 2014 06:01 Squat wrote: Soo is one of the best 3-4 zergs in the world. He has better gamesense than Soulkey and almost as good understanding of zerg as Roro, along with top notch mechanics and a varied arsenal of different builds and styles. He is criminally underrated and would probably beat your favorite player black and blue while you are busy exclaiming "who the fuck is this guy!?" with a mixture of astonishment and despair. Soo is legitimately one of the best players in Korea, haters can step on a lego. I will never admit soO is a good player after that game where he had 30 corruptors vs thors and lost | ||
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Squat
Sweden7978 Posts
On March 30 2014 06:08 Dodgin wrote: I will never admit soO is a good player after that game where he had 30 corruptors vs thors and lost If every player who had some stupid loss could never be considered a good player again, every single player would be shit. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On March 30 2014 06:15 Squat wrote: If every player who had some stupid loss could never be considered a good player again, every single player would be shit. it happened to him consistently though. | ||
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Squat
Sweden7978 Posts
And now it no longer does. Players improve. Everyone laughed at JD when he switched over. Then suddenly he was in a blizzcon finals. The Soo that is playing Zest is a monster. The Soo that lost with corruptors to thors wasn't. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
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McRatyn
Poland901 Posts
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Squat
Sweden7978 Posts
I always think that soO is medicore too, i am not even sure why^^ Probably because you just weren't aware of him, or how good he was. He's quiet and unassuming, but everyone who talks about him says his skill level is incredible. | ||
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Iodem
United States1173 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/440145-gomtv-announces-global-championship | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On March 30 2014 06:40 Squat wrote: Probably because you just weren't aware of him, or how good he was. He's quiet and unassuming, but everyone who talks about him says his skill level is incredible. Yeah i just wonder why sktt1 doesn't play him in proleague^^ | ||
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LockeTazeline
2390 Posts
On March 30 2014 06:40 Squat wrote: Probably because you just weren't aware of him, or how good he was. He's quiet and unassuming, but everyone who talks about him says his skill level is incredible. For me, I can rarely watch Korean tournaments because of timezones, but I read through almost all the threads, so that's usually how I base my opinions on players off of. When you had players like Innovation on the rise, you had tons of people gushing over his "sick micro" and "godlike play" and such, but when soO wins games, I almost never see people expressing amazement over his skills, so I'm always surprised when he consistently beats top players. The guy just isn't very hyped by the community. | ||
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DiMano
Korea (South)2066 Posts
 The 1st ever finals without venue I just can not believe when I saw it on the screen during the stream I was like it is a mistake it just can not be the truth... | ||
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KrazyTrumpet
United States2520 Posts
On March 30 2014 06:27 Squat wrote: And now it no longer does. Players improve. Everyone laughed at JD when he switched over. Then suddenly he was in a blizzcon finals. The Soo that is playing Zest is a monster. The Soo that lost with corruptors to thors wasn't. Zest is a bigger monster. RIP soO | ||
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gobbledydook
Australia2605 Posts
On one hand, we have a KT player who isn't flash. On the other hand we have an SKT zerg. Paradox mode activated. Mind blown. | ||
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pure.Wasted
Canada4701 Posts
On March 30 2014 06:01 Squat wrote: Soo is one of the best 3-4 zergs in the world. He has better gamesense than Soulkey and almost as good understanding of zerg as Roro, along with top notch mechanics and a varied arsenal of different builds and styles. He is criminally underrated and would probably beat your favorite player black and blue while you are busy exclaiming "who the fuck is this guy!?" with a mixture of astonishment and despair. Soo is legitimately one of the best players in Korea, haters can step on a lego. Can you point me to a series where he demonstrates some very serious, very obvious skill? All of his GSL games (this season and last) have looked pretty mediocre to me. Yeah, he wins, but he doesn't do it by doing anything extraordinary. Like even vs. Life which was obviously an entertaining series, Life was always the one with the cooler moves (Nydus, proxy Spine) whereas soO just... plays... well. And not so well that it looks world-class. Just... well. I'm more hyped about this season than last, but nowhere close to Inno vs. Soulkey levels. | ||
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McRatyn
Poland901 Posts
On March 30 2014 18:20 pure.Wasted wrote: Can you point me to a series where he demonstrates some very serious, very obvious skill? All of his GSL games (this season and last) have looked pretty mediocre to me. Yeah, he wins, but he doesn't do it by doing anything extraordinary. Like even vs. Life which was obviously an entertaining series, Life was always the one with the cooler moves (Nydus, proxy Spine) whereas soO just... plays... well. And not so well that it looks world-class. Just... well. I'm more hyped about this season than last, but nowhere close to Inno vs. Soulkey levels. Don't know about you but pure results hype me alomost as, if not the same, as "cool" play. And when you say that he wins with "mediocore" games, how does that make his opponents look like? | ||
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Weavel
Finland9221 Posts
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pure.Wasted
Canada4701 Posts
On March 30 2014 18:51 McRatyn wrote: Don't know about you but pure results hype me alomost as, if not the same, as "cool" play. And when you say that he wins with "mediocore" games, how does that make his opponents look like? Well, considering the fact that the game is artificially balanced (as opposed to most physical sports), the possibility that it isn't balanced always exists and always will exist. That leaves the burden of proof of skill either on the players (to demonstrate) or the casters (to explain). soO's gotten to two finals, yeah that's kind of impressive, but then again Inca got to the finals. Are you gonna tell me Inca's skill rivals the skill of other GSL finalists? No, luck, balance, meta, and whatever else were on his side. I personally haven't seen omgwtf-level play out of soO and Artosis wasn't able to work his magic to explain what makes soO so good last season, so, I dunno what to tell you. For me it takes Soulkey levels of consistency to like a player who doesn't always look spectacular while winning. | ||
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McRatyn
Poland901 Posts
 (And Soulkey is off the charts on that one) But when talking about balance surely we can conclude that beating protosses means winning against the balance not due to it can't we? Nothing to say about Inca though, started following pro SC since Life vs Mvp.I expect a good match, and agree that the bigger venue may be held for the Global Championship (sorry if I mistook the name somehow) | ||
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TRaFFiC
Canada1448 Posts
On March 30 2014 19:24 pure.Wasted wrote: Well, considering the fact that the game is artificially balanced (as opposed to most physical sports), the possibility that it isn't balanced always exists and always will exist. That leaves the burden of proof of skill either on the players (to demonstrate) or the casters (to explain). soO's gotten to two finals, yeah that's kind of impressive, but then again Inca got to the finals. Are you gonna tell me Inca's skill rivals the skill of other GSL finalists? No, luck, balance, meta, and whatever else were on his side. I personally haven't seen omgwtf-level play out of soO and Artosis wasn't able to work his magic to explain what makes soO so good last season, so, I dunno what to tell you. For me it takes Soulkey levels of consistency to like a player who doesn't always look spectacular while winning. If you want to watch funky builds, go watch RuFF on twitch.tv and you'll see 1 base ghost builds, 2 base mech vs protoss, 4 port banshee, proxy mine drops etc. He's done very well for himself, but fact of the matter is he's a rank 30 gm on NA and probably wouldn't make gm on Korea. This game isn't about being flashy. It's about WINNING. You say he doesn't appear to be playing at a world class level. That's quite the assertion to make. Who are you? A gm player, talent scout, coach? Your opinion is controversial, but also likely worthless. He beat world class players to make it to where he is. Inca made it to the finals when the game was still young and not figured out. The meta game has evolved since then. The strategies are for the most part figured out. Soo is on one of the strongest teams in the world, competing in the hardest leagues in the world, playing the best players in the world etc. It's not even comparable the level of skill. | ||
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