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TheFish7
United States2824 Posts
On March 29 2014 04:22 nkr wrote: are there any tutorials on mapmaking? TL's Mapper's Index - Dated but has links to good info SC2mapster's Melee mapmaking survival guide by Xenostalker - Ignore the part on symmetry, there is now a symmetry tool Blizzard's Terrain tutorial Simple Q&A thread | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
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digmouse
China6329 Posts
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ConCentrate405
Brazil71 Posts
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NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
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iamcaustic
Canada1509 Posts
On March 29 2014 04:49 ConCentrate405 wrote: I found 4 players map so boring to look at. Too much mirroring, and expandig into someone else's natural feels so... unnatural. Will try to draw something workable on paint. Such things were status quo in Brood War. Not sure why it'd be a bad thing now.  | ||
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linkhimura
Argentina231 Posts
I've seen some good maps from the past contests, so I'm expecting some cool things from these too, especially with big maps. I have faith in you TL, let's see your maps in the ladder! | ||
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NorthernAetas
United States11 Posts
Also... Thems some pretty graphics up top. | ||
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On March 29 2014 04:53 iamcaustic wrote: Such things were status quo in Brood War. Not sure why it'd be a bad thing now. Maps in general used to be a lot more interesting, if not super balanced, which was great to see more often than not. In SC2 it seems like the only maps that get played and don't suffer from massive amounts of community backlash are super standard, boring macro maps with run-of-the-mill layouts. Although with SHOUTcraft clan wars and now another one of these, I really hope things will change even a little bit, although last time I checked quite a few of the resident TL mapping judges were very conservative. (anyone remember the days when everything that wasn't a Daybreak clone got criticized and slammed into the ground? yeah...) | ||
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
On March 29 2014 04:33 iamcaustic wrote: "Scouting luck" is a term used by those who are used to only having to scout a single spawn location. Whatever happened to the old BW days of sending two workers in opposite directions (or any other combination of scout units) when you really needed to see your opponent's base? Rotational imbalance is a sad issue though; it's unfortunate that Blizzard decided to make air play so dominant in SC2. Really puts a damper on the terrain design. Nobody sends 2 workers because it hurts your economy too much for how much it's worth. You rarely see Protoss send 2 scouts vs. Zerg when Forge expanding but I haven't seen it for a long time. In PvP especially players do really risky greedy builds often because they know they might not be scouted. | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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NovaMB
Germany9534 Posts
On March 29 2014 05:23 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Quick question, has anyone ever made a 5 spawn location map before? http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/New_Pompeii | ||
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Phaenoman
568 Posts
On March 29 2014 05:23 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Quick question, has anyone ever made a 5 spawn location map before? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-maps/439401-5-new-pompeii | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On March 29 2014 05:25 Phaenoman wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-maps/439401-5-new-pompeii Damn, and I thought I was being so original. | ||
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And G
Germany491 Posts
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iamcaustic
Canada1509 Posts
On March 29 2014 05:22 ZAiNs wrote: Nobody sends 2 workers because it hurts your economy too much for how much it's worth. You rarely see Protoss send 2 scouts vs. Zerg when Forge expanding but I haven't seen it for a long time. In PvP especially players do really risky greedy builds often because they know they might not be scouted. Are you ready to have your mind blown? When 2 scout patterns are standard for everyone on 4 spawn maps, it's no longer detrimental. It also opens up opportunities for players to gave multiple gradients of greed (2 scout = safe, 1 scout = semi-risky, 0 scout = maximum risk). The reason you haven't seen 2 scout patterns in a long time is because the vast majority of the map pool is dominated by 2 spawn maps. Given the disparity, it's not efficient for players to spend vast amounts of training time to map out 2 scout patterns for only 1-2 maps in a 7 map pool. You're better off accepting the scouting risk, especially since the only 4 spawn maps in the pool at the moment have highly defensible 3-base layouts and very long rush distances. | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24193 Posts
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Kiaph
112 Posts
Any tips are suggestions? :D That will help me avoid a rough start? :D (Or links to threads) Thanks in advance, can't wait to see how this pans out. I never really jumped in on (2)s but.. with (4)s only.. and my love for art, and the game.. I want to give it a go. As a child I spent a lot of time in Warcraft 2 map maker, haven't ever touched the Starcraft 2 scene, hope the skills roll over.. from so many ages ago. | ||
Waxangel
United States33360 Posts
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