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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
March 15 2014 04:09 GMT
#601
On March 15 2014 13:09 WTF SC2 wrote:
How The FUCKK did this asshole qualified for the round of 16 ?, and not a more appropriate player such as Jaedong, Bomber or MMA are occupying that place.
I´ts Ridiculous

He qualified by getting second place at IEM New York. He qualified legitimately. That is not the issue here.
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BreakfastBurrito
Profile Joined November 2011
United States893 Posts
March 15 2014 04:12 GMT
#602
How do people like this guy? Good riddance
twitch.tv/jaytherey | Yapper891 if you are reading this, PM me. its Twisty.
hariooo
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada2830 Posts
March 15 2014 04:18 GMT
#603
On March 15 2014 13:09 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 13:06 hariooo wrote:
On March 15 2014 13:00 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 15 2014 12:56 Eventine wrote:
On March 15 2014 12:38 Yorkie wrote:
On March 15 2014 12:36 Dewdeur wrote:
Really, guys?
Say what you will but there is a logical consistency in him going out with a bang.

We all know he's an immature idiot. But he's our immature idiot. And a very lovable immature idiot. We love him for his skill and for his unpredictable behavior. If we spend 3 years giving this boy attention and cheering him on (regardless of his behavior), we better not act surprised when he acts precisely in the way we've encouraged him to act. This game is nothing without personality. Nothing at all.

Zinedine Zedane made his exit from the football-scene by head-butting Materazzi in the world cup final (his last ever official match). Let's all just think about that for a moment.

I say: cheers to Nani, thank you for the music, and let's hope there's someone else out there who can catch our attention like you did.

Correction, some people loved him for it. Others did not think that was behavior that should be idolized and encouraged.


Some people prefer vanilla, others prefer color.

Some people prefer people who act like adults and behave professionally. If that's vanilla then sign me up. You can keep the "colorful" ones who pull stunts like this. The scene isn't as hurt by his departure as some people would like to believe.


Now that Naniwa is gone I expected viewership to increase dramatically. /s

What a silly thing to say. I don't expect viewership to increase. I expect it to stay roughly the same. Believe it or not most people watch the game because they like the game not because they are obsessed with one player.


Yeah people keep saying that but SC2 keeps losing viewers. You think the dismissal of the one remaining competitive foreigner at global events isn't going to have an effect?
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
March 15 2014 04:20 GMT
#604
On March 15 2014 13:18 hariooo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 13:09 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 15 2014 13:06 hariooo wrote:
On March 15 2014 13:00 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 15 2014 12:56 Eventine wrote:
On March 15 2014 12:38 Yorkie wrote:
On March 15 2014 12:36 Dewdeur wrote:
Really, guys?
Say what you will but there is a logical consistency in him going out with a bang.

We all know he's an immature idiot. But he's our immature idiot. And a very lovable immature idiot. We love him for his skill and for his unpredictable behavior. If we spend 3 years giving this boy attention and cheering him on (regardless of his behavior), we better not act surprised when he acts precisely in the way we've encouraged him to act. This game is nothing without personality. Nothing at all.

Zinedine Zedane made his exit from the football-scene by head-butting Materazzi in the world cup final (his last ever official match). Let's all just think about that for a moment.

I say: cheers to Nani, thank you for the music, and let's hope there's someone else out there who can catch our attention like you did.

Correction, some people loved him for it. Others did not think that was behavior that should be idolized and encouraged.


Some people prefer vanilla, others prefer color.

Some people prefer people who act like adults and behave professionally. If that's vanilla then sign me up. You can keep the "colorful" ones who pull stunts like this. The scene isn't as hurt by his departure as some people would like to believe.


Now that Naniwa is gone I expected viewership to increase dramatically. /s

What a silly thing to say. I don't expect viewership to increase. I expect it to stay roughly the same. Believe it or not most people watch the game because they like the game not because they are obsessed with one player.


Yeah people keep saying that but SC2 keeps losing viewers. You think the dismissal of the one remaining competitive foreigner at global events isn't going to have an effect?

Nope, because everyone expected him to lose to Polt anyways.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
March 15 2014 04:23 GMT
#605
On March 15 2014 13:18 hariooo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 13:09 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 15 2014 13:06 hariooo wrote:
On March 15 2014 13:00 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 15 2014 12:56 Eventine wrote:
On March 15 2014 12:38 Yorkie wrote:
On March 15 2014 12:36 Dewdeur wrote:
Really, guys?
Say what you will but there is a logical consistency in him going out with a bang.

We all know he's an immature idiot. But he's our immature idiot. And a very lovable immature idiot. We love him for his skill and for his unpredictable behavior. If we spend 3 years giving this boy attention and cheering him on (regardless of his behavior), we better not act surprised when he acts precisely in the way we've encouraged him to act. This game is nothing without personality. Nothing at all.

Zinedine Zedane made his exit from the football-scene by head-butting Materazzi in the world cup final (his last ever official match). Let's all just think about that for a moment.

I say: cheers to Nani, thank you for the music, and let's hope there's someone else out there who can catch our attention like you did.

Correction, some people loved him for it. Others did not think that was behavior that should be idolized and encouraged.


Some people prefer vanilla, others prefer color.

Some people prefer people who act like adults and behave professionally. If that's vanilla then sign me up. You can keep the "colorful" ones who pull stunts like this. The scene isn't as hurt by his departure as some people would like to believe.


Now that Naniwa is gone I expected viewership to increase dramatically. /s

What a silly thing to say. I don't expect viewership to increase. I expect it to stay roughly the same. Believe it or not most people watch the game because they like the game not because they are obsessed with one player.


Yeah people keep saying that but SC2 keeps losing viewers. You think the dismissal of the one remaining competitive foreigner at global events isn't going to have an effect?

Tournaments not including Naniwa are doing fine. And Scarlett has reached an international tournament final more recently than Naniwa.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
hariooo
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada2830 Posts
March 15 2014 04:24 GMT
#606
On March 15 2014 13:20 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 13:18 hariooo wrote:
On March 15 2014 13:09 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 15 2014 13:06 hariooo wrote:
On March 15 2014 13:00 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 15 2014 12:56 Eventine wrote:
On March 15 2014 12:38 Yorkie wrote:
On March 15 2014 12:36 Dewdeur wrote:
Really, guys?
Say what you will but there is a logical consistency in him going out with a bang.

We all know he's an immature idiot. But he's our immature idiot. And a very lovable immature idiot. We love him for his skill and for his unpredictable behavior. If we spend 3 years giving this boy attention and cheering him on (regardless of his behavior), we better not act surprised when he acts precisely in the way we've encouraged him to act. This game is nothing without personality. Nothing at all.

Zinedine Zedane made his exit from the football-scene by head-butting Materazzi in the world cup final (his last ever official match). Let's all just think about that for a moment.

I say: cheers to Nani, thank you for the music, and let's hope there's someone else out there who can catch our attention like you did.

Correction, some people loved him for it. Others did not think that was behavior that should be idolized and encouraged.


Some people prefer vanilla, others prefer color.

Some people prefer people who act like adults and behave professionally. If that's vanilla then sign me up. You can keep the "colorful" ones who pull stunts like this. The scene isn't as hurt by his departure as some people would like to believe.


Now that Naniwa is gone I expected viewership to increase dramatically. /s

What a silly thing to say. I don't expect viewership to increase. I expect it to stay roughly the same. Believe it or not most people watch the game because they like the game not because they are obsessed with one player.


Yeah people keep saying that but SC2 keeps losing viewers. You think the dismissal of the one remaining competitive foreigner at global events isn't going to have an effect?

Nope, because everyone expected him to lose to Polt anyways.


That doesn't logically follow at all. Unless you think State playing in Proleague doesn't boost viewership because he's probably going to lose those games too.
hariooo
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada2830 Posts
March 15 2014 04:27 GMT
#607
On March 15 2014 13:23 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 13:18 hariooo wrote:
On March 15 2014 13:09 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 15 2014 13:06 hariooo wrote:
On March 15 2014 13:00 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 15 2014 12:56 Eventine wrote:
On March 15 2014 12:38 Yorkie wrote:
On March 15 2014 12:36 Dewdeur wrote:
Really, guys?
Say what you will but there is a logical consistency in him going out with a bang.

We all know he's an immature idiot. But he's our immature idiot. And a very lovable immature idiot. We love him for his skill and for his unpredictable behavior. If we spend 3 years giving this boy attention and cheering him on (regardless of his behavior), we better not act surprised when he acts precisely in the way we've encouraged him to act. This game is nothing without personality. Nothing at all.

Zinedine Zedane made his exit from the football-scene by head-butting Materazzi in the world cup final (his last ever official match). Let's all just think about that for a moment.

I say: cheers to Nani, thank you for the music, and let's hope there's someone else out there who can catch our attention like you did.

Correction, some people loved him for it. Others did not think that was behavior that should be idolized and encouraged.


Some people prefer vanilla, others prefer color.

Some people prefer people who act like adults and behave professionally. If that's vanilla then sign me up. You can keep the "colorful" ones who pull stunts like this. The scene isn't as hurt by his departure as some people would like to believe.


Now that Naniwa is gone I expected viewership to increase dramatically. /s

What a silly thing to say. I don't expect viewership to increase. I expect it to stay roughly the same. Believe it or not most people watch the game because they like the game not because they are obsessed with one player.


Yeah people keep saying that but SC2 keeps losing viewers. You think the dismissal of the one remaining competitive foreigner at global events isn't going to have an effect?

Tournaments not including Naniwa are doing fine. And Scarlett has reached an international tournament final more recently than Naniwa.


Have we gone from "There's enough space for LoL and SC2 in the sports realm" to "I'm okay that SC2 is the 4th most popular game"? lol

And just checking Scarlett's liquipedia, I don't see anything as big as Blizzcon or IEM world's.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
March 15 2014 04:31 GMT
#608
On March 15 2014 13:27 hariooo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 13:23 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 15 2014 13:18 hariooo wrote:
On March 15 2014 13:09 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 15 2014 13:06 hariooo wrote:
On March 15 2014 13:00 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 15 2014 12:56 Eventine wrote:
On March 15 2014 12:38 Yorkie wrote:
On March 15 2014 12:36 Dewdeur wrote:
Really, guys?
Say what you will but there is a logical consistency in him going out with a bang.

We all know he's an immature idiot. But he's our immature idiot. And a very lovable immature idiot. We love him for his skill and for his unpredictable behavior. If we spend 3 years giving this boy attention and cheering him on (regardless of his behavior), we better not act surprised when he acts precisely in the way we've encouraged him to act. This game is nothing without personality. Nothing at all.

Zinedine Zedane made his exit from the football-scene by head-butting Materazzi in the world cup final (his last ever official match). Let's all just think about that for a moment.

I say: cheers to Nani, thank you for the music, and let's hope there's someone else out there who can catch our attention like you did.

Correction, some people loved him for it. Others did not think that was behavior that should be idolized and encouraged.


Some people prefer vanilla, others prefer color.

Some people prefer people who act like adults and behave professionally. If that's vanilla then sign me up. You can keep the "colorful" ones who pull stunts like this. The scene isn't as hurt by his departure as some people would like to believe.


Now that Naniwa is gone I expected viewership to increase dramatically. /s

What a silly thing to say. I don't expect viewership to increase. I expect it to stay roughly the same. Believe it or not most people watch the game because they like the game not because they are obsessed with one player.


Yeah people keep saying that but SC2 keeps losing viewers. You think the dismissal of the one remaining competitive foreigner at global events isn't going to have an effect?

Tournaments not including Naniwa are doing fine. And Scarlett has reached an international tournament final more recently than Naniwa.


Have we gone from "There's enough space for LoL and SC2 in the sports realm" to "I'm okay that SC2 is the 4th most popular game"? lol

And just checking Scarlett's liquipedia, I don't see anything as big as Blizzcon or IEM world's.

Lol. Naniwa qualified for IEM Worlds (and Blizzcon basically) by getting second place at IEM New York which was a tournament not even as stacked as ASUS ROG at Northcon which is the tournament I am referring to. And your first statement doesn't make much sense. But keep on believing that Naniwa was the thing keeping SC2 afloat if that makes you happy. Feel free to PM me in a month or so when SC2 is dead to gloat.
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jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
March 15 2014 04:38 GMT
#609
On March 15 2014 13:24 hariooo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 13:20 jmbthirteen wrote:
On March 15 2014 13:18 hariooo wrote:
On March 15 2014 13:09 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 15 2014 13:06 hariooo wrote:
On March 15 2014 13:00 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 15 2014 12:56 Eventine wrote:
On March 15 2014 12:38 Yorkie wrote:
On March 15 2014 12:36 Dewdeur wrote:
Really, guys?
Say what you will but there is a logical consistency in him going out with a bang.

We all know he's an immature idiot. But he's our immature idiot. And a very lovable immature idiot. We love him for his skill and for his unpredictable behavior. If we spend 3 years giving this boy attention and cheering him on (regardless of his behavior), we better not act surprised when he acts precisely in the way we've encouraged him to act. This game is nothing without personality. Nothing at all.

Zinedine Zedane made his exit from the football-scene by head-butting Materazzi in the world cup final (his last ever official match). Let's all just think about that for a moment.

I say: cheers to Nani, thank you for the music, and let's hope there's someone else out there who can catch our attention like you did.

Correction, some people loved him for it. Others did not think that was behavior that should be idolized and encouraged.


Some people prefer vanilla, others prefer color.

Some people prefer people who act like adults and behave professionally. If that's vanilla then sign me up. You can keep the "colorful" ones who pull stunts like this. The scene isn't as hurt by his departure as some people would like to believe.


Now that Naniwa is gone I expected viewership to increase dramatically. /s

What a silly thing to say. I don't expect viewership to increase. I expect it to stay roughly the same. Believe it or not most people watch the game because they like the game not because they are obsessed with one player.


Yeah people keep saying that but SC2 keeps losing viewers. You think the dismissal of the one remaining competitive foreigner at global events isn't going to have an effect?

Nope, because everyone expected him to lose to Polt anyways.


That doesn't logically follow at all. Unless you think State playing in Proleague doesn't boost viewership because he's probably going to lose those games too.

He may have boosted viewership today, but beyond that I don't think he has an effect. Viewership will still be great, will break 100k imo. I didn't see anyone hyping Naniwa for this tournament. Yeah if he would have went deep, it probably would have helped. But its not like the tournaments viewership was make or break on Naniwa's performance. This tournament wasn't even like Blizzcon where people talked like, Naniwa vs Korea, must watch! It was more, oh yeah Naniwa qualified for this, but he just said he hasn't been playing at all so....
www.superbeerbrothers.com
Khai
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia553 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-15 04:44:04
March 15 2014 04:41 GMT
#610
Rofl, such a bad mannered prick. Never thought of him as a pro, he doesn't deserved to be called one. Zero professionalism.

Good riddance.

EDIT: Please add this to OP
The sense of entitlement is strong on this one. Fans are the reason why there are tournament prize money and sponsorship. So ignorant.
KingFool
Profile Joined January 2008
Canada428 Posts
March 15 2014 04:49 GMT
#611
Even if he wants to come back now, I think that he's lost the ability to be employed by a credible team. I was a pretty big fan, through thick and thin. But this is pretty shameful. Insulting the fan base is what lost idra his position.
Stimin myself on a daily basis
Fhiz
Profile Joined October 2013
361 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-15 04:51:37
March 15 2014 04:51 GMT
#612
lol at all these people getting mad at the fact that naniwa is allowed to live his own life and just happens to be emotional person that used to enjoy starcraft.
girls generation make u feel da heat
Bibu
Profile Joined August 2010
Russian Federation163 Posts
March 15 2014 04:53 GMT
#613
hes always cry.. kid always cry and Naniwa always cry
twitch.tv/kaatv @kaajke instagram.com/kaajke
Parcelleus
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1662 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-15 04:56:24
March 15 2014 04:54 GMT
#614
On March 15 2014 13:51 Fhiz wrote:
lol at all these people getting mad at the fact that naniwa is allowed to live his own life and just happens to be emotional person that used to enjoy starcraft.


hahaha agreed.
*burp*
RiskyChris
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
125 Posts
March 15 2014 04:58 GMT
#615
On March 15 2014 13:41 Khai wrote:
EDIT: Please add this to OP https://twitter.com/NaNiwaSC2/status/444651265923219456 The sense of entitlement is strong on this one. Fans are the reason why there are tournament prize money and sponsorship. So ignorant.


Seriously? The entire community is coming down on him like he's committed a crime against humanity. I'd feel the same way.

Naniwa clearly is an emotional person in a dark place, add a community that feeds into his fragile ego and this is the result of that feedback loop.
Rickyvalle21
Profile Joined July 2012
United States320 Posts
March 15 2014 05:01 GMT
#616
Anybody that followed the swedish warcraft3 scene knew Naniwa was a toxic person. Back in 2005 he would attend Lans under the id Skoth and was just overall a cancerous person bming others irl. Even though he gathered a lot of fans from his skill, I don't see how anybody would not like him. Glad to see his ego has finally caught and and it drove him out of his scene. I will miss his gameplay dearly but he as a person won't be missed.
people say practice is perfect but if nothing is perfect whats the point in practicing?
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
March 15 2014 05:02 GMT
#617
On March 15 2014 13:58 RiskyChris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 13:41 Khai wrote:
EDIT: Please add this to OP https://twitter.com/NaNiwaSC2/status/444651265923219456 The sense of entitlement is strong on this one. Fans are the reason why there are tournament prize money and sponsorship. So ignorant.


Seriously? The entire community is coming down on him like he's committed a crime against humanity. I'd feel the same way.

Naniwa clearly is an emotional person in a dark place, add a community that feeds into his fragile ego and this is the result of that feedback loop.

what the fuck did he think would happen?
www.superbeerbrothers.com
pajoondies
Profile Joined February 2014
United States316 Posts
March 15 2014 05:03 GMT
#618
here's this: Naniwa didn't make money playing SC2 because sponsors and companies like giving out money to guys that play video games. He made money BECAUSE WE, THE COMMUNITY, WATCH AND SUPPORT PEOPLE WHO PLAY STARCRAFT. Without the community, him and every other starcraft pro doesn't have a job because there's no demand, no? In fact, if everyone stopped watching baseball or soccer/football or whatever other type of entertainment you want to name, you think those guys have a career? So no, he doesn't have to be a good boy or nice and kind in every situation but he sure as hell owes us a decent effort and not that crap he pulled today. Give me a break.
xxxKagexxx
Profile Joined August 2012
France43 Posts
March 15 2014 05:03 GMT
#619
this Iem tournament really bored me, not cause of Naniwa left cause he wasn't enough confident it's his own feeling and i m no one to judge a man ! But Stardust losing two time in a row to same kind of thing, with non map control getting out position(at xel naga in Taeja range vision) without msc to recall, msc at home with no unit on field in case of drop at 14 min,
what about those game ??? Taeja using early gg 2 time in row with no convincing advantage for the other player ??? what about that ? why ppl just choose to hate foreigner and Kr are angel that are out of the rule what is this community really ? in french 2 poids 2 mesures.

Mister caster you better not judge ppl playing but only games !
And if you don't love someone you should bother us with it !
AC3
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada337 Posts
March 15 2014 05:06 GMT
#620
Is Nani still sponsored by Alliance? If he still is, wonder how much longer they'll keep him around during his "indefinite break". Can't imagine A Garfield is too impressed with Nani at the moment.

Still sad to see him give up on the game when he has the potential (clearly not the attitude though), but if he's not having fun playing then I understand. Perhaps time to go back to school or think about long term career plans, eSports doesn't seem to be Nani's end game.
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