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MVega
Profile Joined November 2010
763 Posts
March 15 2014 06:09 GMT
#641
On March 15 2014 14:58 Nirel wrote:
I can't believe people are still defending him, I wonder what he has to do for people to stop making excuses for him.


Swedish pride too strong on the internet. I think the only thing that might rival it is an American defending an American. And I say that as a person who has been in both places and is friends with a great many people from both. I've never known two groups of people that are so amazingly alike aside from a handful of very obvious differences.

So yeah he'll always have defenders even though he totally seems to be doing everything possible to scare them off.
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ilikeredheads
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1995 Posts
March 15 2014 06:09 GMT
#642
oh naniwa with the classy tweet

I kinda feel bad for Team Alliance. Do they really want a player who is a quitter AND attacks the community for criticizing his highly unprofessional behaviour??
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
March 15 2014 06:11 GMT
#643
On March 15 2014 15:09 ilikeredheads wrote:
oh naniwa with the classy tweet

I kinda feel bad for Team Alliance. Do they really want a player who is a quitter AND attacks the community for criticizing his highly unprofessional behaviour??

They've had one before I'm sure they have a protocol in place now.
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jsharick
Profile Joined April 2012
16 Posts
March 15 2014 06:26 GMT
#644
I love Naniwa. SC2 producing great games as always.
Troutsky
Profile Joined July 2011
7 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-15 06:38:47
March 15 2014 06:33 GMT
#645
Here's how I see it
Sound proofing issues wouldn't have changed the outcome of that game. Consider though he's under prepared and probably planned at least some more proxy/cheeses, even casters mentioned he'd probably have to play the aggressor, after all it is Polt. Now think if it were to make it to a game 5, proxies in a place where Polt doesn't check but almost sees it, crowd reacts, Polt then sees it and shuts it down. I'm pretty sure if any sort of situation like that were to play out, he'd consider it a waste of time. So what's he do? Forfeits instead of playing it out, crappy? yes, but in my mind if he doesn't feel like he can compete with whatever he HAS prepared, just save everyone's time and quits.

Does he deserve the spot? Yes, he earned it. Should he have played? Questionable. He came, tried, failed then decided to quit early.

Honestly, he still is/was one of the best foreigners, has produced great games and entertainment all sorts of ways in the past. Speaks his mind for better or worse (usually worse) but for that I give him a bit of credit. He's ending on a low note, but I think his involvement in SC2 has been an overall positive, and for that I'm happy (not that he cares that I'm happy *tear*)

Edit* And about his comment about the toxic community or what not, it is sorta true, I mean people focus on all the negative of everything (consider "news" channels, always/usually focusing on the bad) I know this is the current event at hand, but then when people bring up the past they always just focus on the bad to summarize everything that's "happened" in his past.
Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
March 15 2014 06:51 GMT
#646
On March 15 2014 15:33 Troutsky wrote:
Here's how I see it
Sound proofing issues wouldn't have changed the outcome of that game. Consider though he's under prepared and probably planned at least some more proxy/cheeses, even casters mentioned he'd probably have to play the aggressor, after all it is Polt. Now think if it were to make it to a game 5, proxies in a place where Polt doesn't check but almost sees it, crowd reacts, Polt then sees it and shuts it down. I'm pretty sure if any sort of situation like that were to play out, he'd consider it a waste of time. So what's he do? Forfeits instead of playing it out, crappy? yes, but in my mind if he doesn't feel like he can compete with whatever he HAS prepared, just save everyone's time and quits.

Does he deserve the spot? Yes, he earned it. Should he have played? Questionable. He came, tried, failed then decided to quit early.

Honestly, he still is/was one of the best foreigners, has produced great games and entertainment all sorts of ways in the past. Speaks his mind for better or worse (usually worse) but for that I give him a bit of credit. He's ending on a low note, but I think his involvement in SC2 has been an overall positive, and for that I'm happy (not that he cares that I'm happy *tear*)

Edit* And about his comment about the toxic community or what not, it is sorta true, I mean people focus on all the negative of everything (consider "news" channels, always/usually focusing on the bad) I know this is the current event at hand, but then when people bring up the past they always just focus on the bad to summarize everything that's "happened" in his past.

Recheck the vod, Polt didn't change his scv path, he saw it when the scv "bugged" against the gaz. Crowd didn't help at all.
AceOfCakez
Profile Joined August 2012
United States72 Posts
March 15 2014 06:56 GMT
#647
I'd be honestly interested to hear the opinion of the other players if there is soundproofing or not at IEM. Since no one has spoken up, I'm under the assumption that the sound proofing is fine.
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
March 15 2014 06:58 GMT
#648
On March 15 2014 15:56 AceOfCakez wrote:
I'd be honestly interested to hear the opinion of the other players if there is soundproofing or not at IEM. Since no one has spoken up, I'm under the assumption that the sound proofing is fine.


ESL asked the other players, including LoL players, and everyone agreed that the sound proofing was adequate.
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Troutsky
Profile Joined July 2011
7 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-15 07:05:18
March 15 2014 06:58 GMT
#649
Durr...that's my point? I said sound proofing would NOT change things in that first game? I'm saying it could potentially in future games if all he prepared were cheese and one was discovered due to sound proofing being an issue. Sorry, if it sounded like I meant that it did affect the game.

Edit* Bout sound proofing I've only seen claims that Naniwa, San and Polt have mentioned sound proofing issues. Would be nice to see players comments on it though, and not have to wait to say anything but actually be asked, given how everyone treats people who might use it as an excuse, I'm sure they're more than hesitant to say anything.
SniXSniPe
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1938 Posts
March 15 2014 06:59 GMT
#650
Good riddance.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
March 15 2014 07:54 GMT
#651
Pretty poor way to go. But then I guess I never expected too much from Nani.

Still, a big loss to the foreign SC2 scene. All up to Scarlett now I guess..
hariooo
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada2830 Posts
March 15 2014 07:58 GMT
#652
On March 15 2014 15:58 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 15:56 AceOfCakez wrote:
I'd be honestly interested to hear the opinion of the other players if there is soundproofing or not at IEM. Since no one has spoken up, I'm under the assumption that the sound proofing is fine.


ESL asked the other players, including LoL players, and everyone agreed that the sound proofing was adequate.


The LoL players aren't going to rock the boat for no reason.

Unless you really think they were being honest that a curtain on the LoL stage is "soundproof".
Neptuneajax
Profile Joined April 2009
Australia206 Posts
March 15 2014 08:07 GMT
#653
Used to be a fan. After seeing that all I can say is "GTFO son, you will not be missed".
Satiinifi
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland192 Posts
March 15 2014 08:22 GMT
#654
hahaahah, that was just enjoyable to hear the booing and seeing naniwa so sad :D
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
March 15 2014 08:27 GMT
#655
classic naniwa
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maartendq
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium3115 Posts
March 15 2014 08:34 GMT
#656
On March 15 2014 13:58 RiskyChris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 13:41 Khai wrote:
EDIT: Please add this to OP
The sense of entitlement is strong on this one. Fans are the reason why there are tournament prize money and sponsorship. So ignorant.


Seriously? The entire community is coming down on him like he's committed a crime against humanity. I'd feel the same way.

Naniwa clearly is an emotional person in a dark place, add a community that feeds into his fragile ego and this is the result of that feedback loop.

So behaving the way he does is alright because he's an "emotional person"? Every person has emotions. It's knowing when and how to show them that makes you a professional. Naniwa acts like a spoiled child does: throwing tantrums because things don't go his way.

The amount of BS people come up with to excuse the behaviour of the likes of Idra and Naniwa is just staggering.
TRaFFiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1448 Posts
March 15 2014 08:42 GMT
#657
It's a shame all the hate Nani is getting. I don't agree with his decisions, but he's obviously not in a good place. As for forfeiting the tournament, there is nothing "unprofessional" about it unless he signed some contract with his team saying he would play the whole thing. It's within his rights.
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Archay
Profile Joined November 2010
Lithuania6 Posts
March 15 2014 08:46 GMT
#658
Theres a saying. "lose with pride, win with dignity" Nani displayed none of these qualities as he simply gave up and ended (most likely) his career with thousands of fans booing behind him. Yet again showing what bad e-sportsman he is.
Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
March 15 2014 08:46 GMT
#659
I'm a fan of Nani but this was pretty bad. Was is even worse though is his twitter, like someone in the Nani fanclub posted, Nani has pretty much given the SC2 community the finger pretty hard with his lol tweets and other behaviour.

What takes the cake is that Naniwa somehow feels entitled to be cheered for, he call it a "disgusting community" and says he don't owe us anything. Well Nani is a disgusting player towards his fans and we as fans don't bloody owe him anything. All he's ever done is play for himself, why does he act like he can be a total douche towards the whole community but still think he's entitled to us still cheering for him.

You can be a disgusting bastard towards your fans if you so choose Nani, but right now I'm pretty damn sick of you... But we'll see how I feel in the future. I don't owe you anything.
Maru, Bomber, TY, Dear, Classic, DeParture and Rogue!
phillyd
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom61 Posts
March 15 2014 08:48 GMT
#660
Naniwa is going to struggle in the real world.
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