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That's good news for me. Two esports federations always was bad for korean esports.
I hope all teams and players can go to KeSPA and that this unity will strengthen the scene.
Hope that StarTale and Azubu can join KeSPA and ProLeague as soon as possible. Maybe even in season.
10 teams ProLeague again would be very nice.
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On January 28 2014 20:56 Kheve wrote:
Finally this arrogant fake organization bites the dust. Their only act in their existence was to bully Slayers just to show that they are a real organization. No rules no tournament no nothing, just gang up to bully someone. All stick and no carrot. Bleh now finally sc2 have a chance (tiny one) in korea.
Talk about ignorance
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Bad things happen sometimes, but it could not have been avoided.
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On January 28 2014 15:57 lichter wrote:
But how will Azubu remind us that they are a real team now?
buy themself into ProLeague and win it all.
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This is a step in the right direction. It didn't make sense eSF and KesPA co-existing after the majority of eSF teams switched over.
Throughout SC2 teams have come and gone with extraordinary pace, and it has been unsustainable. Some of the Kespa teams are more stable because of the big telecommunications sponsors, and eventually it will probably only be the major sponsored teams left.
Players will have to dedicate themselves 100% to ensure they're picked up by a decent team.
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On January 28 2014 21:18 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2014 20:56 Kheve wrote:
Finally this arrogant fake organization bites the dust. Their only act in their existence was to bully Slayers just to show that they are a real organization. No rules no tournament no nothing, just gang up to bully someone. All stick and no carrot. Bleh now finally sc2 have a chance (tiny one) in korea. don't be an idiot, they saved sc2 by manfighting kespa over the GSL boycotting issue Show nested quote +On January 28 2014 20:22 Ammanas wrote:On January 28 2014 20:17 JustPassingBy wrote:On January 28 2014 19:53 Ammanas wrote:On January 28 2014 18:47 RoninKenshin wrote:
I don't think it's a bad thing, but people really aren't giving esf any credit. They were the ones that put Starcraft 2 first, while Kespa refused to join out of stubbornness and spite. Then while esf put out open arms when kespa switched over, kespa instead refused to cooperate and demanded control, slowly killing the scene. Esf and gom have only tried to make SC2 great, and laid the foundation for what it is today.
While their power was small, I think esf was a great orgnization with heart. Thanks for your hard work esf!! lol no, they didn't join because Blizzard gave GOM exclusive rights... Eh, you make it sound as if Blizzard gave GOM exclusive rights after KespA transitioned to sc2, is that really right? :o Such a long time ago, and my memory isn't the best... nah, they gave GOM exclusive rights before SC2 was released, meaning Kespa was unable to switch as their partners at the time were OnGameNet and MBC Game. That was all done because Blizzard asked Kespa to give them money for BW tournaments when they realized it existed about a year or two before SC2 was released. Obviously Kespa didn't want to as they were the ones who nurtured the BW scene from the ground. They sued Kespa afaik (was eventually solved outside of court) and gave GOM the exclusive rights in order to manipulate Kespa out of SC2 scene. Basically a Blizzard power struggle with Kespa is to be blamed for SC2 not being as big as it could/should in Korea. or you could see it as a kespa power struggle for not paying dues *shrug
Paying wat dues? U think kespa cant afford to pay? Or perhaps blizzard wanted the accounts of kespa even though kespa is a non-profit organizastion sanctioned by the korean government. All revenue generated by kespa MUST be funneled back into esports by law (team payouts, prizepool, holding tournaments awards etc) No matter how blizzard trys to spin it, no developer in the world ever sued someone for holding tournaments for their game. Blizzard was trying to take money from the korean esports scene. When that failed spectacularly with the korean public suddenly they changed their tune and say they want to support esports and start sponsoring prizemoney.
Blizzard reap wat they sow. Instead of a thriving game (at no costs) with free publicity and goodwill, now they have to spend their money just to keep the scene afloat not to mention the view that blizzard wants to own esports. No amount of spin on copyright ip rights can hide the fact that they want esports money to belong to them. Esports is and have always been for the gamers.
Compare it to Valves approach. Valve takes a % of in game tickets sold. They want it they are honest about it AND they ARE providing a service that provides a lot more dollars per viewer to esports. Thus its an EXTRA revenue stream for esports at no costs to the esports scene. Thus organisers know valve profit if esports profit. Thus its a beneficial partnership. Whether just good business model alone can fight lol is to be seen but one thing for sure, everyone is doing their best towards it and even if they cant beat lol, they can easily still survive as an indepedent ecosystem where everyone profits. The lastest revenue shows dota at 80 million compared to lol nearing 700 million. A % of that goes back to the scene which means easily 10-20 million extra for the scene at no cost to valve and the organisers. This number is projected to continue growing for at least 2-3 years. Valve generated that much extra revenue for esports directly and made money out of it.
Kespa is also investing in dota with nexons money because Kespa understands that if they profit, valve will profit a lot more thus wouldnt be greedy and want more. This is inspite of lol being so damned popular in korea that any sane man would not touch other games. This is because Kespa is for esports. No matter how bad the scene is, kespa must always be neutral and support all scenes. Someone mentioned that its actually lol who is subsidizing esports now which is very true especially in korea.
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not exactly impactful at this point
Hopefully startale will get to compete in other team leagues.
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On January 28 2014 21:18 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2014 20:56 Kheve wrote:
Finally this arrogant fake organization bites the dust. Their only act in their existence was to bully Slayers just to show that they are a real organization. No rules no tournament no nothing, just gang up to bully someone. All stick and no carrot. Bleh now finally sc2 have a chance (tiny one) in korea. don't be an idiot, they saved sc2 by manfighting kespa over the GSL boycotting issue Show nested quote +On January 28 2014 20:22 Ammanas wrote:On January 28 2014 20:17 JustPassingBy wrote:On January 28 2014 19:53 Ammanas wrote:On January 28 2014 18:47 RoninKenshin wrote:
I don't think it's a bad thing, but people really aren't giving esf any credit. They were the ones that put Starcraft 2 first, while Kespa refused to join out of stubbornness and spite. Then while esf put out open arms when kespa switched over, kespa instead refused to cooperate and demanded control, slowly killing the scene. Esf and gom have only tried to make SC2 great, and laid the foundation for what it is today.
While their power was small, I think esf was a great orgnization with heart. Thanks for your hard work esf!! lol no, they didn't join because Blizzard gave GOM exclusive rights... Eh, you make it sound as if Blizzard gave GOM exclusive rights after KespA transitioned to sc2, is that really right? :o Such a long time ago, and my memory isn't the best... nah, they gave GOM exclusive rights before SC2 was released, meaning Kespa was unable to switch as their partners at the time were OnGameNet and MBC Game. That was all done because Blizzard asked Kespa to give them money for BW tournaments when they realized it existed about a year or two before SC2 was released. Obviously Kespa didn't want to as they were the ones who nurtured the BW scene from the ground. They sued Kespa afaik (was eventually solved outside of court) and gave GOM the exclusive rights in order to manipulate Kespa out of SC2 scene. Basically a Blizzard power struggle with Kespa is to be blamed for SC2 not being as big as it could/should in Korea. or you could see it as a kespa power struggle for not paying dues *shrug
Problem is, Kespa doesn't have money. They are non-profit organization sanctioned by government, everything they earn goes straight back to esport scene. What more, Kespa tournaments are for sure not profitable for them nowadays, they are only running on sponsorships. And I believe that was also most probably true in BW.
Also, Blizzard didn't have ANY rights for any money from Korean BW scene. Even if Kespa would be turning billions of profit, it was them who made the BW esports. Yes, Blizzard made the game, but other than that nothing. They were not at all interested in that scene even, until SC2 development started. It's like if some heir to the guy who 'invented' tennis was asking for money from ATP or football/FIFA or golf/PGA or any other comparison you want to think about.
In the end, I want to speculate - after the matchfixing scandal, I believe nobody would be happier more than Kespa to switch to SC2 asap. But Blizzard tried to push them into corner and they unfortunately couldn't. So yes, I blame Blizzard for eSF existing in the first place and what's worse I blame them for the state of SC2 in Korea right now even though now they are doing their best to save anything that's left. I wonder if it will be enough though.
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Well now we can have one great team league and (at least) one great singles tournament with out all this esf vs kespa nonsense.
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I love how half of the comments confuse GSTL, ESF and GOMTV on a number 1 western website dedicated to starcraft. Or keep talking about Azubu who never was part of ESF and has nothing to do with ESF disbanding. Are you guys even trying to pretend you are interested in starcraft proscene?
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On January 28 2014 22:24 Ammanas wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2014 21:18 opterown wrote:On January 28 2014 20:56 Kheve wrote:
Finally this arrogant fake organization bites the dust. Their only act in their existence was to bully Slayers just to show that they are a real organization. No rules no tournament no nothing, just gang up to bully someone. All stick and no carrot. Bleh now finally sc2 have a chance (tiny one) in korea. don't be an idiot, they saved sc2 by manfighting kespa over the GSL boycotting issue On January 28 2014 20:22 Ammanas wrote:On January 28 2014 20:17 JustPassingBy wrote:On January 28 2014 19:53 Ammanas wrote:On January 28 2014 18:47 RoninKenshin wrote:
I don't think it's a bad thing, but people really aren't giving esf any credit. They were the ones that put Starcraft 2 first, while Kespa refused to join out of stubbornness and spite. Then while esf put out open arms when kespa switched over, kespa instead refused to cooperate and demanded control, slowly killing the scene. Esf and gom have only tried to make SC2 great, and laid the foundation for what it is today.
While their power was small, I think esf was a great orgnization with heart. Thanks for your hard work esf!! lol no, they didn't join because Blizzard gave GOM exclusive rights... Eh, you make it sound as if Blizzard gave GOM exclusive rights after KespA transitioned to sc2, is that really right? :o Such a long time ago, and my memory isn't the best... nah, they gave GOM exclusive rights before SC2 was released, meaning Kespa was unable to switch as their partners at the time were OnGameNet and MBC Game. That was all done because Blizzard asked Kespa to give them money for BW tournaments when they realized it existed about a year or two before SC2 was released. Obviously Kespa didn't want to as they were the ones who nurtured the BW scene from the ground. They sued Kespa afaik (was eventually solved outside of court) and gave GOM the exclusive rights in order to manipulate Kespa out of SC2 scene. Basically a Blizzard power struggle with Kespa is to be blamed for SC2 not being as big as it could/should in Korea. or you could see it as a kespa power struggle for not paying dues *shrug Problem is, Kespa doesn't have money. They are non-profit organization sanctioned by government, everything they earn goes straight back to esport scene. What more, Kespa tournaments are for sure not profitable for them nowadays, they are only running on sponsorships. And I believe that was also most probably true in BW. Also, Blizzard didn't have ANY rights for any money from Korean BW scene. Even if Kespa would be turning billions of profit, it was them who made the BW esports. Yes, Blizzard made the game, but other than that nothing. They were not at all interested in that scene even, until SC2 development started. It's like if some heir to the guy who 'invented' tennis was asking for money from ATP or football/FIFA or golf/PGA or any other comparison you want to think about. In the end, I want to speculate - after the matchfixing scandal, I believe nobody would be happier more than Kespa to switch to SC2 asap. But Blizzard tried to push them into corner and they unfortunately couldn't. So yes, I blame Blizzard for eSF existing in the first place and what's worse I blame them for the state of SC2 in Korea right now even though now they are doing their best to save anything that's left. I wonder if it will be enough though.
Kespa doesn't have money? Lol? You do know that all the oil companies I the would could form a non-profit and as long as they don't make a profit at the end of the year they still qualify. Even if they are loaded.
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On January 28 2014 22:39 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2014 22:24 Ammanas wrote:On January 28 2014 21:18 opterown wrote:On January 28 2014 20:56 Kheve wrote:
Finally this arrogant fake organization bites the dust. Their only act in their existence was to bully Slayers just to show that they are a real organization. No rules no tournament no nothing, just gang up to bully someone. All stick and no carrot. Bleh now finally sc2 have a chance (tiny one) in korea. don't be an idiot, they saved sc2 by manfighting kespa over the GSL boycotting issue On January 28 2014 20:22 Ammanas wrote:On January 28 2014 20:17 JustPassingBy wrote:On January 28 2014 19:53 Ammanas wrote:On January 28 2014 18:47 RoninKenshin wrote:
I don't think it's a bad thing, but people really aren't giving esf any credit. They were the ones that put Starcraft 2 first, while Kespa refused to join out of stubbornness and spite. Then while esf put out open arms when kespa switched over, kespa instead refused to cooperate and demanded control, slowly killing the scene. Esf and gom have only tried to make SC2 great, and laid the foundation for what it is today.
While their power was small, I think esf was a great orgnization with heart. Thanks for your hard work esf!! lol no, they didn't join because Blizzard gave GOM exclusive rights... Eh, you make it sound as if Blizzard gave GOM exclusive rights after KespA transitioned to sc2, is that really right? :o Such a long time ago, and my memory isn't the best... nah, they gave GOM exclusive rights before SC2 was released, meaning Kespa was unable to switch as their partners at the time were OnGameNet and MBC Game. That was all done because Blizzard asked Kespa to give them money for BW tournaments when they realized it existed about a year or two before SC2 was released. Obviously Kespa didn't want to as they were the ones who nurtured the BW scene from the ground. They sued Kespa afaik (was eventually solved outside of court) and gave GOM the exclusive rights in order to manipulate Kespa out of SC2 scene. Basically a Blizzard power struggle with Kespa is to be blamed for SC2 not being as big as it could/should in Korea. or you could see it as a kespa power struggle for not paying dues *shrug Problem is, Kespa doesn't have money. They are non-profit organization sanctioned by government, everything they earn goes straight back to esport scene. What more, Kespa tournaments are for sure not profitable for them nowadays, they are only running on sponsorships. And I believe that was also most probably true in BW. Also, Blizzard didn't have ANY rights for any money from Korean BW scene. Even if Kespa would be turning billions of profit, it was them who made the BW esports. Yes, Blizzard made the game, but other than that nothing. They were not at all interested in that scene even, until SC2 development started. It's like if some heir to the guy who 'invented' tennis was asking for money from ATP or football/FIFA or golf/PGA or any other comparison you want to think about. In the end, I want to speculate - after the matchfixing scandal, I believe nobody would be happier more than Kespa to switch to SC2 asap. But Blizzard tried to push them into corner and they unfortunately couldn't. So yes, I blame Blizzard for eSF existing in the first place and what's worse I blame them for the state of SC2 in Korea right now even though now they are doing their best to save anything that's left. I wonder if it will be enough though. Kespa doesn't have money? Lol? You do know that all the oil companies I the would could form a non-profit and as long as they don't make a profit at the end of the year they still qualify. Even if they are loaded.
Ahh thats because of the corporate practices in the west. In the west accounting practise generally allows u to cook the books as long as u are not caught. Enron and such were exceptions because they sucks at cheating otherwise its fine. Thats western culture. And its accepted evidenced by the huge amount of Ponzis like Madoff. So long as you;re not caught, its the right thing to do. Rules and regulations tend to be frowned on because it infringes on free market (suckers will be suckered). Even the banking crisis was not sufficient impetus for federal oversight.
In the Korea sadly such things are frowned upon, whistleblowing will happen and ppl will go to jail. In china corporate malpractice can even earn a bullet (And stay of executions are usually for mere months instead of years). Furthermore Kespa is not owned by anyone thus every stakeholder have equal rights (though some are more equal). The current Kespa president is a congressman. Plenty of of willing whistleblower who would love a scandal if there were even any hanky panky they are supposed to be involved in.
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I'm not really solid that Kespa is a magical, nice nonprofit because of Korean culture and public oversight. They are still a group created by the companies that find Esports in Korea to represent their intrest. I don't think they are evil, but they are no less business minded than Blizzard or any other company.
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On January 28 2014 23:01 Kheve wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2014 22:39 Plansix wrote:On January 28 2014 22:24 Ammanas wrote:On January 28 2014 21:18 opterown wrote:On January 28 2014 20:56 Kheve wrote:
Finally this arrogant fake organization bites the dust. Their only act in their existence was to bully Slayers just to show that they are a real organization. No rules no tournament no nothing, just gang up to bully someone. All stick and no carrot. Bleh now finally sc2 have a chance (tiny one) in korea. don't be an idiot, they saved sc2 by manfighting kespa over the GSL boycotting issue On January 28 2014 20:22 Ammanas wrote:On January 28 2014 20:17 JustPassingBy wrote:On January 28 2014 19:53 Ammanas wrote:On January 28 2014 18:47 RoninKenshin wrote:
I don't think it's a bad thing, but people really aren't giving esf any credit. They were the ones that put Starcraft 2 first, while Kespa refused to join out of stubbornness and spite. Then while esf put out open arms when kespa switched over, kespa instead refused to cooperate and demanded control, slowly killing the scene. Esf and gom have only tried to make SC2 great, and laid the foundation for what it is today.
While their power was small, I think esf was a great orgnization with heart. Thanks for your hard work esf!! lol no, they didn't join because Blizzard gave GOM exclusive rights... Eh, you make it sound as if Blizzard gave GOM exclusive rights after KespA transitioned to sc2, is that really right? :o Such a long time ago, and my memory isn't the best... nah, they gave GOM exclusive rights before SC2 was released, meaning Kespa was unable to switch as their partners at the time were OnGameNet and MBC Game. That was all done because Blizzard asked Kespa to give them money for BW tournaments when they realized it existed about a year or two before SC2 was released. Obviously Kespa didn't want to as they were the ones who nurtured the BW scene from the ground. They sued Kespa afaik (was eventually solved outside of court) and gave GOM the exclusive rights in order to manipulate Kespa out of SC2 scene. Basically a Blizzard power struggle with Kespa is to be blamed for SC2 not being as big as it could/should in Korea. or you could see it as a kespa power struggle for not paying dues *shrug Problem is, Kespa doesn't have money. They are non-profit organization sanctioned by government, everything they earn goes straight back to esport scene. What more, Kespa tournaments are for sure not profitable for them nowadays, they are only running on sponsorships. And I believe that was also most probably true in BW. Also, Blizzard didn't have ANY rights for any money from Korean BW scene. Even if Kespa would be turning billions of profit, it was them who made the BW esports. Yes, Blizzard made the game, but other than that nothing. They were not at all interested in that scene even, until SC2 development started. It's like if some heir to the guy who 'invented' tennis was asking for money from ATP or football/FIFA or golf/PGA or any other comparison you want to think about. In the end, I want to speculate - after the matchfixing scandal, I believe nobody would be happier more than Kespa to switch to SC2 asap. But Blizzard tried to push them into corner and they unfortunately couldn't. So yes, I blame Blizzard for eSF existing in the first place and what's worse I blame them for the state of SC2 in Korea right now even though now they are doing their best to save anything that's left. I wonder if it will be enough though. Kespa doesn't have money? Lol? You do know that all the oil companies I the would could form a non-profit and as long as they don't make a profit at the end of the year they still qualify. Even if they are loaded. Ahh thats because of the corporate practices in the west. In the west accounting practise generally allows u to cook the books as long as u are not caught. Enron and such were exceptions because they sucks at cheating otherwise its fine. Thats western culture. And its accepted evidenced by the huge amount of Ponzis like Madoff. So long as you;re not caught, its the right thing to do. Rules and regulations tend to be frowned on because it infringes on free market (suckers will be suckered). Even the banking crisis was not sufficient impetus for federal oversight. In the Korea sadly such things are frowned upon, whistleblowing will happen and ppl will go to jail. In china corporate malpractice can even earn a bullet (And stay of executions are usually for mere months instead of years). Furthermore Kespa is not owned by anyone thus every stakeholder have equal rights (though some are more equal). The current Kespa president is a congressman. Plenty of of willing whistleblower who would love a scandal if there were even any hanky panky they are supposed to be involved in.
Is this a troll? Bribing has a huge history in China, i would argue that there is "cheating" in every country of the world and let us not talk about Korea, i just have to say Lee Kun-hee! 130 million $ in slush funds was it, right?
Organised crime is always a problem. In every country - to claim other wise is gullible.
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Was waiting for this to happen.
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On January 28 2014 16:28 Nerevar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2014 16:25 -Kyo- wrote:On January 28 2014 16:17 GTPGlitch wrote:On January 28 2014 16:13 Wafflelisk wrote:I know we all saw it coming and everything, but I'm gonna be so nostalgic over staying up till 2 a.m and watching the GSL someday.. I think I already am  Uh, dude, just cause esf died doesn't mean GSL is dead?_? Yes, just to clarify: eSF is run by the team managers and organizers of non-kespa teams. GSL is run by GOMTV which is completely independent. This means, more than likely, the ultimate end to GSTL as there is proleague. However, qualifiers for WCS are run through GOMTV (Code A/S) so they will stuff have a lot of content to provide on that front. I can still see GSTL as a shorter special event kind of league during Proleague's off-season assuming GOM can negotiate a nice deal with KeSPA.
This almost certainly won't happen. OGN surely has exclusive rights to content provided by KeSPA teams and there is no way GOM would pay OGN's asking price for their own mini-league.
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pls introduce 2 new challenger teams for the Proleague. 10 man proleague would be intense.
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On January 28 2014 23:11 Crytash wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2014 23:01 Kheve wrote:On January 28 2014 22:39 Plansix wrote:On January 28 2014 22:24 Ammanas wrote:On January 28 2014 21:18 opterown wrote:On January 28 2014 20:56 Kheve wrote:
Finally this arrogant fake organization bites the dust. Their only act in their existence was to bully Slayers just to show that they are a real organization. No rules no tournament no nothing, just gang up to bully someone. All stick and no carrot. Bleh now finally sc2 have a chance (tiny one) in korea. don't be an idiot, they saved sc2 by manfighting kespa over the GSL boycotting issue On January 28 2014 20:22 Ammanas wrote:On January 28 2014 20:17 JustPassingBy wrote:On January 28 2014 19:53 Ammanas wrote:On January 28 2014 18:47 RoninKenshin wrote:
I don't think it's a bad thing, but people really aren't giving esf any credit. They were the ones that put Starcraft 2 first, while Kespa refused to join out of stubbornness and spite. Then while esf put out open arms when kespa switched over, kespa instead refused to cooperate and demanded control, slowly killing the scene. Esf and gom have only tried to make SC2 great, and laid the foundation for what it is today.
While their power was small, I think esf was a great orgnization with heart. Thanks for your hard work esf!! lol no, they didn't join because Blizzard gave GOM exclusive rights... Eh, you make it sound as if Blizzard gave GOM exclusive rights after KespA transitioned to sc2, is that really right? :o Such a long time ago, and my memory isn't the best... nah, they gave GOM exclusive rights before SC2 was released, meaning Kespa was unable to switch as their partners at the time were OnGameNet and MBC Game. That was all done because Blizzard asked Kespa to give them money for BW tournaments when they realized it existed about a year or two before SC2 was released. Obviously Kespa didn't want to as they were the ones who nurtured the BW scene from the ground. They sued Kespa afaik (was eventually solved outside of court) and gave GOM the exclusive rights in order to manipulate Kespa out of SC2 scene. Basically a Blizzard power struggle with Kespa is to be blamed for SC2 not being as big as it could/should in Korea. or you could see it as a kespa power struggle for not paying dues *shrug Problem is, Kespa doesn't have money. They are non-profit organization sanctioned by government, everything they earn goes straight back to esport scene. What more, Kespa tournaments are for sure not profitable for them nowadays, they are only running on sponsorships. And I believe that was also most probably true in BW. Also, Blizzard didn't have ANY rights for any money from Korean BW scene. Even if Kespa would be turning billions of profit, it was them who made the BW esports. Yes, Blizzard made the game, but other than that nothing. They were not at all interested in that scene even, until SC2 development started. It's like if some heir to the guy who 'invented' tennis was asking for money from ATP or football/FIFA or golf/PGA or any other comparison you want to think about. In the end, I want to speculate - after the matchfixing scandal, I believe nobody would be happier more than Kespa to switch to SC2 asap. But Blizzard tried to push them into corner and they unfortunately couldn't. So yes, I blame Blizzard for eSF existing in the first place and what's worse I blame them for the state of SC2 in Korea right now even though now they are doing their best to save anything that's left. I wonder if it will be enough though. Kespa doesn't have money? Lol? You do know that all the oil companies I the would could form a non-profit and as long as they don't make a profit at the end of the year they still qualify. Even if they are loaded. Ahh thats because of the corporate practices in the west. In the west accounting practise generally allows u to cook the books as long as u are not caught. Enron and such were exceptions because they sucks at cheating otherwise its fine. Thats western culture. And its accepted evidenced by the huge amount of Ponzis like Madoff. So long as you;re not caught, its the right thing to do. Rules and regulations tend to be frowned on because it infringes on free market (suckers will be suckered). Even the banking crisis was not sufficient impetus for federal oversight. In the Korea sadly such things are frowned upon, whistleblowing will happen and ppl will go to jail. In china corporate malpractice can even earn a bullet (And stay of executions are usually for mere months instead of years). Furthermore Kespa is not owned by anyone thus every stakeholder have equal rights (though some are more equal). The current Kespa president is a congressman. Plenty of of willing whistleblower who would love a scandal if there were even any hanky panky they are supposed to be involved in. Is this a troll? Bribing has a huge history in China, i would argue that there is "cheating" in every country of the world and let us not talk about Korea, i just have to say Lee Kun-hee! 130 million $ in slush funds was it, right? Organised crime is always a problem. In every country - to claim other wise is gullible.
No one said china is a paradise -_-. Its the consequence and social acceptability. Bribing is called lobbying in the west and the bribes are called gifts. Its legal in the west. Its illegal in china and 20 years ago, every few months we see some politician gets a bullet (China has the biggest civil service in the world due to its population). These days China are becoming more westernised and only gets jail. 20 years later maybe lobbying can be legal and gifts can even be publicly recorded and accepted.
Accounting practices in china is very strict. lots of government restrictions and rules. Thats also why lots of big china company prefer to list in western markets. The western accounting practice is very open-minded and cheating (by asian confucian standards) is not frowned upon.
That is the most important difference between Kespa and western companies. No one owns kespa. The organization is powerful but no one owns it but the esports scene itself. Its exactly like FIFA etc who have billions in revenue but all that money MUST be funneled back into the football. Sepp Blater might be very powerful but he is no way touching the billions of FIFA revenue. He might get a lot of gifts etc but he certainly cant use any of the FIFA revenues.
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man thinking about it now i wonder what would have happened if blizzard didn't do all of this nonsense transition stuff and just let kespa teams run SC2 and BW teams separately
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