EPTDavid Kim's Current Balance Thoughts - Page 55
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fishinguy
Russian Federation798 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
Better balanced than BW, yes. | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On January 23 2014 10:35 KrazyTrumpet wrote: lol, you mother fucking Terran idiots always say shit like that and its so stupidly untrue. Get off your high horse, your race isn't harder to play, you just need to adapt. Isn't that what you shit heads were telling Zerg/Toss during GomTvT? Seriously, the Terran pros that have trying new stuff and adapting their play are still winning. It's the idiots that are still doing the exact same thing from WoL beta that are crying about not being able to win. I've been seeing some Terrans using more hellbat and widow mines in TvP and having very good success with them. Its like the rest of you retards forgot midgame hellbats with blue flame absolutely shit all over Zealots, or that widow mines do bonus damage vs shields. But no, since the same MMM comp that has been used for THREE YEARS has been figured out and Protoss players are FINALLY starting to be consistent with their mechanics and micro, it's obviously P being op. Jesus dude, you are seriously one of the WORST whiners on this forum, and one of the reasons I have trouble stomaching these forums anymore. If you hate everything so much, go away. Christ. Lol, let's see Blizzard make every map like Daedulus and watch how the Protoss Pros adapt... | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
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Dragonm_sc2
United States15 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
If you look at the win rates for BW over time, the game was fucked up for way longer periods. And to be fair, I think terran could use some love in the scouting department. Their main problem is they don't have a way to get the information they need to adjust their builds, IMO. But I don't think the world is ending for terrans. KrazyTrumpet, you are a brave man and I endores you're rant. There are some great terrans(like little Libbo), but the whiners are among them. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26918 Posts
When I say it's hard, I mean purely the mechanically taxing side of things. Zerg seems hard mechanically too, but it's not my mechanics holding me back with that race, it's just being unfamiliar with how to gauge their burst production, vs the more linear Terran/Protoss styles. | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On January 23 2014 11:22 Plansix wrote: If you look at the win rates for BW over time, the game was fucked up for way longer periods. And to be fair, I think terran could use some love in the scouting department. Their main problem is they don't have a way to get the information they need to adjust their builds, IMO. But I don't think the world is ending for terrans. KrazyTrumpet, you are a brave man and I endores you're rant. There are some great terrans(like little Libbo), but the whiners are among them. Yeah, because we all know protoss never whines... Just look at the LR threads when Daedulus is played... Stop try to paint terrans are not willing to adapt while just whining and protoss as players that will always try to adapt and never whine. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On January 23 2014 11:41 vthree wrote: Yeah, because we all know protoss never whines... Just look at the LR threads when Daedulus is played... Stop try to paint terrans are not willing to adapt while just whining and protoss as players that will always try to adapt and never whine. Please, of course they whine all the time about stuff, like maps, PvP and the dreaded swarm host. They all whine, but there have been a rash of "woe was Terran" threads in the last few months. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On January 23 2014 11:41 vthree wrote: Yeah, because we all know protoss never whines... Just look at the LR threads when Daedulus is played... Stop try to paint terrans are not willing to adapt while just whining and protoss as players that will always try to adapt and never whine. exactly, zerg players are the only real men in this community! | ||
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CutTheEnemy
Canada373 Posts
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HolyArrow
United States7116 Posts
On January 23 2014 11:46 The_Red_Viper wrote: exactly, zerg players are the only real men in this community! Just had a flashback to the first GSL Open when all the Zergs were whining | ||
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imrusty269
United States1404 Posts
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dargul
Russian Federation125 Posts
There were 14 TvP bo3, T won in 1 ... so P vs T on GSL 13-1 If we talking about sets PvT is 28-6 ... The only terran which passed in code S Bbyong - didn't played any TvP he won TvT and TvZ. So right now all terran players who faced Protoss in group matches didn't pass to code S. If Supernova will pass(he is playing right now) then again keep in mind that it is because of his TvZ his TvP he has lost already. | ||
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hansonslee
United States2027 Posts
On January 23 2014 15:56 dargul wrote: Just some stats from GSL. There were 14 TvP bo3, T won in 1 ... so P vs T on GSL 13-1 If we talking about sets PvT is 28-6 ... The only terran which passed in code S Bbyong - didn't played any TvP he won TvT and TvZ. So right now all terran players who faced Protoss in group matches didn't pass to code S. If Supernova will pass(he is playing right now) then again keep in mind that it is because of his TvZ his TvP he has lost already. At least, that TvP was entertaining with mech and carriers! But still, I really hope DK is putting his nose out of statistics and watches the VODs to see how much Terran are struggling in a series against Protoss. | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
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dargul
Russian Federation125 Posts
On January 23 2014 16:08 GolemMadness wrote: Let's all go crazy over a small sample size of games from the GSL! Meanwhile, terran has a 64% win rate in Proleague, while protoss has a win rate of 44%. Yeh 1week of proleage where terrans won is enough to postpone any toss nerf for another couple months. But Mass slaughter of terrans on GSL - suddenly is a too small sample size... May be when there will be no terrans in Ro8 Gsl they will start thinking And yeh 44% winrate isn't the same thing as 17.5% winrate which we have now in TvP GSL | ||
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xelnaga_empire
627 Posts
On January 23 2014 15:56 dargul wrote: Just some stats from GSL. There were 14 TvP bo3, T won in 1 ... so P vs T on GSL 13-1 If we talking about sets PvT is 28-6 ... Those stats are horrible and the sample size is large enough. Maybe David Kim will do something. Or maybe David Kim will buff the Oracle again. | ||
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Chaggi
Korea (South)1936 Posts
On January 23 2014 11:46 Plansix wrote: Please, of course they whine all the time about stuff, like maps, PvP and the dreaded swarm host. They all whine, but there have been a rash of "woe was Terran" threads in the last few months. Maybe, just MAYBE there's a reason behind that... HMMMM Not all whine is a baseless cry for free wins | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On January 23 2014 11:58 CutTheEnemy wrote: 55 pages in the balance whine thread. That's 55 pages of people limiting themselves :p It's true that there needs to be changes, but this isn't productive anymore. it never was. | ||
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