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On December 04 2013 00:25 .SCATesteR wrote:
idk i could see him going to a high end Kespa team like KT or CJ, someone who could pay the salary hes looking for. But then again the restrictions with going to forgin tournys....hmmmmmmmmm.
KT JD would be the bets thing ever (now in sc2) but Jaedong will stay with EG, he has no reason not to (except MAYBE proleague)
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Nice to have it confirmed
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On December 04 2013 00:01 Squat wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2013 23:59 Salient wrote:
He seems to be thriving with EG. I wonder how he escaped the curse. He invented his own one instead.
hahaha
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Liquid should pick him up >_<
He is doing great on EG, though so, more than likely, he will stay there.
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On December 03 2013 21:48 perfidiusrex wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2013 21:44 boxerfred wrote:
I'm actually happy that jaedong is not going to compete in proleague any soon. proleague, as skillwise good as it is, has casters I do not enjoy, produciton I do not enjoy, time schedule I do not enjoy and lots of (for me) faceless koreans I do not enjoy. sorry, broodwarians. are you serious?proleague and osl had the most entertaining value out of all sc2 competitions.they had high production value(the last osls was nicely done),the kespa koreans are entertaining and are educated on public relationships.the osl format with bo1 and bo3 is the most simmilar thing esports comes to real sports.i would pick the osl over the gsl anytime.and koreans arent faceless when they compete against people of same calibre. seeing a faceless korean win against an underprepared foreigner is boring but seeing koreans with simmilar training environments going against each other is actually exciting.
Please differentiate between my personal opinion and an objective statement, you're mistaken by words as objective. I did write a lot "I do not enjoy", so it should be clear that it's my opinion! I'm not saying it was "bad production" like "nasl sound guy" or something, I am just saying that I do not enjoy it.
You would pick OSL over GSL anytime, that's okay, and I'd do it the other way around. I do prefer GSTL instead of ProLeague, sorry. Should I leave the scene now or what?
Also, some other things you're saying might be right for you, but not for everyone. I do not enjoy a faceless korean's display of skill vs. another faceless korean.
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sorry if my response sounded a bit sash.  .i understand it is your personal oppinion.nevertheless the koreans in the gstl seem to be just the same personality wise as those in the proleague.
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On December 04 2013 00:38 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2013 00:01 Squat wrote:On December 03 2013 23:59 Salient wrote:
He seems to be thriving with EG. I wonder how he escaped the curse. He invented his own one instead. hahaha
Mhm quite quite clever indeed.
Quite sad how Jaedong has had one of the most insane year yet has won nothing yet ^^
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On December 04 2013 01:03 perfidiusrex wrote:sorry if my response sounded a bit sash. .i understand it is your personal oppinion.nevertheless the koreans in the gstl seem to be just the same personality wise as those in the proleague.
True, but I guess you can't force someone's taste to be corresponding to yours. I bet GOMTV likes my taste though :D
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in my fantasy world, EG and Liquid merge so Taeja and Jaedong are on the same team.
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There are 70.000 reasons to go back to korea.
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On December 03 2013 17:10 ReachTheSky wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2013 17:07 TAMinator wrote:On December 03 2013 16:12 Seeker wrote:
Hmm... It's going to be weird seeing him on some other team than EG now that everyone has gotten used to it. But then again, any team would be lucky to have JD so I wouldn't be surprised if he got some super sick offer and joined a different team. Let's see how this plays out. Liquid'Jaedong This would be awesome.
Definitely as it would give Liquid the Korean hit squad of all three races :D
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boxerfred,
we just pointed out how useless your opinion was and invalid some of your points were. You cannot bitch and moan about something that takes place at a time less than ideal for you because over there the time is good for them. This point is saying, the world should revolve around you. Get over yourself.
As for the idea of faceless Koreans. Over there and to a lot of other people they aren't faceless. Stop projecting. You bitch about times yet you watch the GSTL, which has a similar schedule to PL and the OSL. Once again, get over yourself.
Furthermore, the OSL and PL Korean production showcases the actual players if you know Korean. Like I said before, they use everything from player theme music, to pre match interviews to playback interviews with the players. If you don't think this helps expose the players more than I don't know what to say to you. So you don't understand Korean. Too bad. From the odd time I did hear what they were saying there was some translation, but you don't like SNM. Oh well. Once again you are entitled to have a opinion, but there just isn't a lot of substance to such claims and it's more reflective of you as a person.
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I'd rather get second in every tournament I attend than come in first for one and then be irrelevant from then on.
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On December 03 2013 23:24 perfidiusrex wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2013 23:22 StarStruck wrote:On December 03 2013 23:18 perfidiusrex wrote:On December 03 2013 23:12 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On December 03 2013 21:48 perfidiusrex wrote:On December 03 2013 21:44 boxerfred wrote:
I'm actually happy that jaedong is not going to compete in proleague any soon. proleague, as skillwise good as it is, has casters I do not enjoy, produciton I do not enjoy, time schedule I do not enjoy and lots of (for me) faceless koreans I do not enjoy. sorry, broodwarians. are you serious?proleague and osl had the most entertaining value out of all sc2 competitions.they had high production value(the last osls was nicely done),the kespa koreans are entertaining and are educated on public relationships.the osl format with bo1 and bo3 is the most simmilar thing esports comes to real sports.i would pick the osl over the gsl anytime.and koreans arent faceless when they compete against people of same calibre. seeing a faceless korean win against an underprepared foreigner is boring but seeing koreans with simmilar training environments going against each other is actually exciting. Sorry but production for proleague was HORRIBLE. (english stream) what was so bad about it?beside proleague being played in some pcbang it seemed like a decent sc2 tournament. @shidox kespa isnt made for sc2 recently. Most people just like to shit on SNM and Whiplash. Yeah, they were very green but it's not like GOM didn't make the same moves with bringing new talent in. Some people don't learn or pay enough attention to what is happening elsewhere. i find people who watch sc2 for the casters a bit weird.
I find it sad has fuck.
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On December 04 2013 01:27 StarStruck wrote:
boxerfred,
we just pointed out how useless your opinion was and invalid some of your points were. You cannot bitch and moan about something that takes place at a time less than ideal for you because over there the time is good for them. This point is saying, the world should revolve around you. Get over yourself.
As for the idea of faceless Koreans. Over there and to a lot of other people they aren't faceless. Stop projecting. You bitch about times yet you watch the GSTL, which has a similar schedule to PL and the OSL. Once again, get over yourself.
Furthermore, the OSL and PL Korean production showcases the actual players if you know Korean. Like I said before, they use everything from player theme music, to pre match interviews to playback interviews with the players. If you don't think this helps expose the players more than I don't know what to say to you. So you don't understand Korean. Too bad. From the odd time I did hear what they were saying there was some translation, but you don't like SNM. Oh well. Once again you are entitled to have a opinion, but there just isn't a lot of substance to such claims and it's more reflective of you as a person.
His points are invalid? Him saying he doesn't personally like the casters is invalid? Him saying the time is not ideal for him is invalid? You are claiming this and then telling HIM to get over HIMSELF, while he stated from the beginning (and in a reply since then) that it was his opinion and that he wasn't claiming that everyone should think that way?
He is not Korean. Telling him "too bad" because he doesn't understand Korean is stupid. You just made multiple personal attacks on someone based on them stating they like GSL more than OSL and GSTL more than Proleague. Which of those things is really more reflective of someone as a person?
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On December 04 2013 01:42 Dreamsmasher2 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2013 23:24 perfidiusrex wrote:On December 03 2013 23:22 StarStruck wrote:On December 03 2013 23:18 perfidiusrex wrote:On December 03 2013 23:12 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On December 03 2013 21:48 perfidiusrex wrote:On December 03 2013 21:44 boxerfred wrote:
I'm actually happy that jaedong is not going to compete in proleague any soon. proleague, as skillwise good as it is, has casters I do not enjoy, produciton I do not enjoy, time schedule I do not enjoy and lots of (for me) faceless koreans I do not enjoy. sorry, broodwarians. are you serious?proleague and osl had the most entertaining value out of all sc2 competitions.they had high production value(the last osls was nicely done),the kespa koreans are entertaining and are educated on public relationships.the osl format with bo1 and bo3 is the most simmilar thing esports comes to real sports.i would pick the osl over the gsl anytime.and koreans arent faceless when they compete against people of same calibre. seeing a faceless korean win against an underprepared foreigner is boring but seeing koreans with simmilar training environments going against each other is actually exciting. Sorry but production for proleague was HORRIBLE. (english stream) what was so bad about it?beside proleague being played in some pcbang it seemed like a decent sc2 tournament. @shidox kespa isnt made for sc2 recently. Most people just like to shit on SNM and Whiplash. Yeah, they were very green but it's not like GOM didn't make the same moves with bringing new talent in. Some people don't learn or pay enough attention to what is happening elsewhere. i find people who watch sc2 for the casters a bit weird. I find it sad has fuck.
I don't know I feel like I care about casters way more now than I used to. I used to not care in Brood War and would listen to Korean casters or casters I didn't particularly like all of the time, didn't really bother me in the slightest. Nowadays I feel like compared to DotA, League, CS:GO, etc. that the SC2 casters are as a whole pretty damn good. It's like I've been conditioned to high quality casting when watching StarCraft. So it's not so much I watch for the casters, but it definitely affects the experience and lowers the quality of the show as a whole.
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On December 04 2013 01:56 Venomsflame wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2013 01:27 StarStruck wrote:
boxerfred,
we just pointed out how useless your opinion was and invalid some of your points were. You cannot bitch and moan about something that takes place at a time less than ideal for you because over there the time is good for them. This point is saying, the world should revolve around you. Get over yourself.
As for the idea of faceless Koreans. Over there and to a lot of other people they aren't faceless. Stop projecting. You bitch about times yet you watch the GSTL, which has a similar schedule to PL and the OSL. Once again, get over yourself.
Furthermore, the OSL and PL Korean production showcases the actual players if you know Korean. Like I said before, they use everything from player theme music, to pre match interviews to playback interviews with the players. If you don't think this helps expose the players more than I don't know what to say to you. So you don't understand Korean. Too bad. From the odd time I did hear what they were saying there was some translation, but you don't like SNM. Oh well. Once again you are entitled to have a opinion, but there just isn't a lot of substance to such claims and it's more reflective of you as a person. His points are invalid? Him saying he doesn't personally like the casters is invalid? Him saying the time is not ideal for him is invalid? You are claiming this and then telling HIM to get over HIMSELF, while he stated from the beginning (and in a reply since then) that it was his opinion and that he wasn't claiming that everyone should think that way? He is not Korean. Telling him "too bad" because he doesn't understand Korean is stupid. You just made multiple personal attacks on someone based on them stating they like GSL more than OSL and GSTL more than Proleague. Which of those things is really more reflective of someone as a person?
I said he was entitled to his opinions but showed exactly how little weight it carries. There are two points that I deconstructed: the idea of faceless Koreans and the timing of the schedule. I said he doesn't have to like the casters lol that's not what I was arguing I even put a sentence in my original post saying that was fine. You're looking at the whole when you should be looking at the parts. Don't group everything together. I addressed a number of things.
Let me phrase it another way to sum things up: just because you willingly choose to ignore a scene, which has generated a ridiculous amount of Starcraft content and don't understand the language doesn't make the players within that scene faceless. This is ignorance and self-entitlement (when it comes down to the timing of the schedule even though the guy stated he watches the GSTL when the OSL and PL go on roughly at the same time) at the highest level.
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On December 04 2013 02:01 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2013 01:56 Venomsflame wrote:On December 04 2013 01:27 StarStruck wrote:
boxerfred,
we just pointed out how useless your opinion was and invalid some of your points were. You cannot bitch and moan about something that takes place at a time less than ideal for you because over there the time is good for them. This point is saying, the world should revolve around you. Get over yourself.
As for the idea of faceless Koreans. Over there and to a lot of other people they aren't faceless. Stop projecting. You bitch about times yet you watch the GSTL, which has a similar schedule to PL and the OSL. Once again, get over yourself.
Furthermore, the OSL and PL Korean production showcases the actual players if you know Korean. Like I said before, they use everything from player theme music, to pre match interviews to playback interviews with the players. If you don't think this helps expose the players more than I don't know what to say to you. So you don't understand Korean. Too bad. From the odd time I did hear what they were saying there was some translation, but you don't like SNM. Oh well. Once again you are entitled to have a opinion, but there just isn't a lot of substance to such claims and it's more reflective of you as a person. His points are invalid? Him saying he doesn't personally like the casters is invalid? Him saying the time is not ideal for him is invalid? You are claiming this and then telling HIM to get over HIMSELF, while he stated from the beginning (and in a reply since then) that it was his opinion and that he wasn't claiming that everyone should think that way? He is not Korean. Telling him "too bad" because he doesn't understand Korean is stupid. You just made multiple personal attacks on someone based on them stating they like GSL more than OSL and GSTL more than Proleague. Which of those things is really more reflective of someone as a person? I said he was entitled to his opinions but showed exactly how little weight it carries. There are two points that I deconstructed: the idea of faceless Koreans and the timing of the schedule. I said he doesn't have to like the casters lol that's not what I was arguing I even put a sentence in my original post saying that was fine. You're looking at the whole when you should be looking at the parts. Don't group everything together. I addressed a number of things. Let me phrase it another way to sum things up: just because you willingly choose to ignore a scene, which has generated a ridiculous amount of Starcraft content and don't understand the language doesn't make the players within that scene faceless. This is ignorance and self-entitlement (when it comes down to the timing of the schedule even though the guy stated he watches the GSTL when the OSL and PL go on roughly at the same time) at the highest level.
I can't believe that you really try to push this. He said the koreans participating in Proleague are faceless FOR HIM, now think about it for a second why that could be and then you will see how pointless your argument is.
The time schedule is maybe bad for him cause he enjoys GSTL and GSL more, cause they overlap you know?
I can't understand why you would argue about it, its just his personal preference ...
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Stays with EG or Acer Jaedong
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On December 03 2013 15:41 NovemberstOrm wrote:JD fits well with EG, and he's had a fantastic year. I don't see him going to another team. Show nested quote +On December 03 2013 15:41 Dodgin wrote:On December 03 2013 15:40 lichter wrote:
Whoa big news!
He'll probably stay on EG though sarcasm? I thought we've known this for months now. hasn't it been more "speculation/rumors" though and nothing ever confirmed?
So what? Just because something was officially announced doesn't mean people didn't know it wasn't true.
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