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On December 03 2013 23:12 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2013 21:48 perfidiusrex wrote:On December 03 2013 21:44 boxerfred wrote:
I'm actually happy that jaedong is not going to compete in proleague any soon. proleague, as skillwise good as it is, has casters I do not enjoy, produciton I do not enjoy, time schedule I do not enjoy and lots of (for me) faceless koreans I do not enjoy. sorry, broodwarians. are you serious?proleague and osl had the most entertaining value out of all sc2 competitions.they had high production value(the last osls was nicely done),the kespa koreans are entertaining and are educated on public relationships.the osl format with bo1 and bo3 is the most simmilar thing esports comes to real sports.i would pick the osl over the gsl anytime.and koreans arent faceless when they compete against people of same calibre. seeing a faceless korean win against an underprepared foreigner is boring but seeing koreans with simmilar training environments going against each other is actually exciting. Sorry but production for proleague was HORRIBLE. (english stream)
In terms of production, yeah it wasn't the best and I guess I can be a little lenient considering it was their first stab on the English side. I had all sorts of notes to give them by the end, but there were some good things that OGN and KeSPA were starting to do. I for one would love it if they brought back the rotating booths, theme song music for players, and do winner interviews during the playback to get inside thoughts from the players.
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On December 03 2013 23:18 [F_]aths wrote:
There is no such things as getting enough of Jaedong.
One can never have enough Dong, it is a tantric sensation.
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On December 03 2013 23:18 perfidiusrex wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2013 23:12 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On December 03 2013 21:48 perfidiusrex wrote:On December 03 2013 21:44 boxerfred wrote:
I'm actually happy that jaedong is not going to compete in proleague any soon. proleague, as skillwise good as it is, has casters I do not enjoy, produciton I do not enjoy, time schedule I do not enjoy and lots of (for me) faceless koreans I do not enjoy. sorry, broodwarians. are you serious?proleague and osl had the most entertaining value out of all sc2 competitions.they had high production value(the last osls was nicely done),the kespa koreans are entertaining and are educated on public relationships.the osl format with bo1 and bo3 is the most simmilar thing esports comes to real sports.i would pick the osl over the gsl anytime.and koreans arent faceless when they compete against people of same calibre. seeing a faceless korean win against an underprepared foreigner is boring but seeing koreans with simmilar training environments going against each other is actually exciting. Sorry but production for proleague was HORRIBLE. (english stream) what was so bad about it?beside proleague being played in some pcbang it seemed like a decent sc2 tournament. @shidox kespa isnt made for sc2 recently.
Most people just like to shit on SNM and Whiplash. Yeah, they were very green but it's not like GOM didn't make the same moves with bringing new talent in. Some people don't learn or pay enough attention to what is happening elsewhere.
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I guess we can just be happy that something went as expected. woo!
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On December 03 2013 23:22 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2013 23:18 perfidiusrex wrote:On December 03 2013 23:12 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On December 03 2013 21:48 perfidiusrex wrote:On December 03 2013 21:44 boxerfred wrote:
I'm actually happy that jaedong is not going to compete in proleague any soon. proleague, as skillwise good as it is, has casters I do not enjoy, produciton I do not enjoy, time schedule I do not enjoy and lots of (for me) faceless koreans I do not enjoy. sorry, broodwarians. are you serious?proleague and osl had the most entertaining value out of all sc2 competitions.they had high production value(the last osls was nicely done),the kespa koreans are entertaining and are educated on public relationships.the osl format with bo1 and bo3 is the most simmilar thing esports comes to real sports.i would pick the osl over the gsl anytime.and koreans arent faceless when they compete against people of same calibre. seeing a faceless korean win against an underprepared foreigner is boring but seeing koreans with simmilar training environments going against each other is actually exciting. Sorry but production for proleague was HORRIBLE. (english stream) what was so bad about it?beside proleague being played in some pcbang it seemed like a decent sc2 tournament. @shidox kespa isnt made for sc2 recently. Most people just like to shit on SNM and Whiplash. Yeah, they were very green but it's not like GOM didn't make the same moves with bringing new talent in. Some people don't learn or pay enough attention to what is happening elsewhere.
i find people who watch sc2 for the casters a bit weird.
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On December 03 2013 23:24 perfidiusrex wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2013 23:22 StarStruck wrote:On December 03 2013 23:18 perfidiusrex wrote:On December 03 2013 23:12 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On December 03 2013 21:48 perfidiusrex wrote:On December 03 2013 21:44 boxerfred wrote:
I'm actually happy that jaedong is not going to compete in proleague any soon. proleague, as skillwise good as it is, has casters I do not enjoy, produciton I do not enjoy, time schedule I do not enjoy and lots of (for me) faceless koreans I do not enjoy. sorry, broodwarians. are you serious?proleague and osl had the most entertaining value out of all sc2 competitions.they had high production value(the last osls was nicely done),the kespa koreans are entertaining and are educated on public relationships.the osl format with bo1 and bo3 is the most simmilar thing esports comes to real sports.i would pick the osl over the gsl anytime.and koreans arent faceless when they compete against people of same calibre. seeing a faceless korean win against an underprepared foreigner is boring but seeing koreans with simmilar training environments going against each other is actually exciting. Sorry but production for proleague was HORRIBLE. (english stream) what was so bad about it?beside proleague being played in some pcbang it seemed like a decent sc2 tournament. @shidox kespa isnt made for sc2 recently. Most people just like to shit on SNM and Whiplash. Yeah, they were very green but it's not like GOM didn't make the same moves with bringing new talent in. Some people don't learn or pay enough attention to what is happening elsewhere. i find people who watch sc2 for the casters a bit weird.
As do I. They could always press the mute button and hopefully they know a thing or two about the game. Look, when I'm watching with my friends we don't listen to the casters at all. We're normally too busy talking, so it just becomes background noise.
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Makes sense.
I still feel it's stupid there is this separation going on with many players competing in all foreign tournaments but not in proleague (taeja, jaedong, mc, hyun to name a few). The players competing in foreign tournaments get way more money while arguably they are not even better or a bit worse than the korea only players. In that sense I can't blame the players at all for choosing a foreign team.
I guess the styles of play needed are also different, the foreign tournaments are almost all 2 or 3 day affairs with tons of games per day while possibly being jetlagged, it's probably quite similar to laddering for these players as there is little to no individual preparation. Korea with GSL and proleague is all sniping your opponent, preparing extensively and benefitting from good coaches. Taeja in particular seems to excel in this 'foreign' format while doing not as good in the preparation format.
I had some hopes a EGTL team would again compete in proleague, if anything startale and EGTL are the two teams really missing out and looking at their rosters either one of them could be called a top team based on their players alone.
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Hope EGJaedong can create a new legacy in SC2.
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Makes sense, the opportunity gap between EG and Jinair is just too big. When's the last time we've seen Jinair send a player out to a foreign tournament?
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I have been waiting for this day to see what Jaedong does from here. I see him staying in EG.
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He seems to be thriving with EG. I wonder how he escaped the curse.
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On December 03 2013 23:59 Salient wrote:
He seems to be thriving with EG. I wonder how he escaped the curse.
He invented his own one instead.
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Didn't know he was on loan lol. EG and Jaedong wouldn't want to part ways, he is by far the most sucessful EG player right now, and he is one of the most consistent players in the world and EG gives him the chance to go to so many events.
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On December 04 2013 00:01 Squat wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2013 23:59 Salient wrote:
He seems to be thriving with EG. I wonder how he escaped the curse. He invented his own one instead.
lol Players like Stephano and Jaedong are a different pedigree altogether.
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On December 04 2013 00:01 Squat wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2013 23:59 Salient wrote:
He seems to be thriving with EG. I wonder how he escaped the curse. He invented his own one instead.
hehehehehehe
OT: kinda expected, but nice to know that no shenanigans will come out of this anytime soon
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On December 04 2013 00:06 Nightsz wrote:
LiquidDong!!
honestly i would not be surprised if we had liquidflash or acerflash instead.
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Jaedong has been great for EG, they're getting a lot of great fanfare and an awesome player to boot.
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idk i could see him going to a high end Kespa team like KT or CJ, someone who could pay the salary hes looking for. But then again the restrictions with going to forgin tournys....hmmmmmmmmm.
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EPT
