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On December 01 2013 18:31 Waxangel wrote: additionally, Korea claimed a full sweep of the gold, silver and bronze for the first time in StarCraft 2, with (P)Sora and (P)SKT_PartinG placing second and third respectively.
Woah... holy shit is this true? This is the first time Koreans have won all podium spots? That just seems... unlikely.
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On December 02 2013 14:58 DomiNater wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2013 18:31 Waxangel wrote: additionally, Korea claimed a full sweep of the gold, silver and bronze for the first time in StarCraft 2, with (P)Sora and (P)SKT_PartinG placing second and third respectively.
Woah... holy shit is this true? This is the first time Koreans have won all podium spots? That just seems... unlikely.
He said Starcraft 2, so it just means that a foreigner grabbed a podium spot in 2011 and 2012.
Also there are only 3 Koreans at each WCG, so it just means one upset has to happen.
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In Broodwar it was
2010: Flash, Kal, Jaedong on the Podium 2009: Jaedong, Stork, Bisu in the Top 3 2008: Luxury, Stork, Strelok (1 upset) 2007: Stork, PJ, Mondragon (amazingly 2 foreigners in the top 3) 2006: oov, July, Midas 2005: FOru, Androide, Legionnaire (2 foreigners yaaay!!)
SC2 2012: Parting, Adelscott, MacSed 2011: mvp, xigua, Kas
so yeah, definitely massive korean domination in broodwar.
SC2 has seen some more foreigners in the top 3 but no win. and it seems to be a much more korean dominated trend.
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On December 02 2013 09:12 mikumegurine wrote: JIM
did better than Parting AND Sora vs Soulkey
Parting and Sora both each went 1 - 3 vs Soulkey
JIM took 2 games from Soulkey, 2 - 3
Does this mean JIM gots better PvZ than Parting AND Sora????
Whoaaaaaaaaaaaa
Unless I'm missing something Im pretty sure PartinG and Soulkey did NOT play this tournament.
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On December 02 2013 21:08 Dragoonstorm7 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2013 09:12 mikumegurine wrote: JIM
did better than Parting AND Sora vs Soulkey
Parting and Sora both each went 1 - 3 vs Soulkey
JIM took 2 games from Soulkey, 2 - 3
Does this mean JIM gots better PvZ than Parting AND Sora????
Whoaaaaaaaaaaaa
Unless I'm missing something Im pretty sure PartinG and Soulkey did NOT play this tournament.
edit : i'm stupid
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Poland3751 Posts
On December 02 2013 21:04 sCuMBaG wrote: In Broodwar it was
2010: Flash, Kal, Jaedong on the Podium 2009: Jaedong, Stork, Bisu in the Top 3 2008: Luxury, Stork, Strelok (1 upset) 2007: Stork, PJ, Mondragon (amazingly 2 foreigners in the top 3) 2006: oov, July, Midas 2005: FOru, Androide, Legionnaire (2 foreigners yaaay!!)
SC2 2012: Parting, Adelscott, MacSed 2011: mvp, xigua, Kas
so yeah, definitely massive korean domination in broodwar.
SC2 has seen some more foreigners in the top 3 but no win. and it seems to be a much more korean dominated trend. Well in 2007 Pj > sAviOr but Stork beat Hwasin so 1 upset. in 2008 Stork 2:1 Jaedong in Round of 8 so no upset here. in 2005 Androide famously beat Silent_control but round earlier Silent_control > XellOs so 1 upset. in 2004 Midas 2:0 fOru in Round of 8 so there was no upset even though the 3rd/4th match was Christian > Androide in 2003 it was best year for foreigners as FiSheYe was leading 1-0 in the grand final before loosing 2-1. It was the only time that foreigner had a match point in final of WCG. Integerstingly enough Grrrr... won 3rd place by beating Control from Korea and HellGhost from Brazil won with H.O.T-Forever 2-0 (!). What's even more interesting in group stage each korean finished second. in 2002 blackman was 3rd after beating essay (korean) who beat starsin. And as there was double elimination at the time Elky eliminated starsin while YellOw beat essay. So there were actually two upsets in the brackets and some more in group stage (Boxer was first but with 5-2, Starsin second with 6-1, Essay first with 6-1, YellOw perfect 7-0). in 2001 Elky finished second beating gorush in looser's bracket final. Interestingly enough GoRush ended in lower bracket because of ElkY so it was actually 2-0. On the other hand BoxeR went 3-0 against ElkY. Worth to note that two koreans fell in group stage - Gundam went 3-2 loosing to Elky and Nazgul. finally in WCGC 2000 koreans went 1,2 and 4 with NTT taking 3rd place but from what I discovered NTT lost twice to Bassy in group stage (apparently) before taking him down in double elimination bracket's looser's semifinal. Another korean - RandomParkSa - fell to two germans: Rookie and Kalaschni.
So all in all between 2001 and 2003 foreigners were close to taking WCG (with FiSheYe being closest) and later on Pj and Androide made miracle runs despite foreigners declining in general.
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two many events overlaping i saw one wcg match :/
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On December 02 2013 22:16 j1nzo wrote: two many events overlaping i saw one wcg match :/
Technically, it was three many
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Poland3751 Posts
Well four if you count D2 @ DreamHack, five if you count LoL @ WCG/IEM and six if you count all games.
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On December 02 2013 22:19 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2013 22:16 j1nzo wrote: two many events overlaping i saw one wcg match :/ Technically, it was three many
Technically I could say there were many more. I watched what I could. I missed all of IEM and the WCG, but I did check back to read about the results regularly. I got a chance to see Navi play Alliance and I saw what I could when it came to DH Winter. Caught a little League on the side as well. Lots of folks don't focus on just one game these days.
On December 02 2013 22:43 nimdil wrote: Well four if you count D2 @ DreamHack, five if you count LoL @ WCG/IEM and six if you count all games.
and ofc I miss this guys comment, derp.
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On December 02 2013 22:19 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2013 22:16 j1nzo wrote: two many events overlaping i saw one wcg match :/ Technically, it was three many
i know, the two many just meant that for me iem and especially dh was > wcg
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I would have loved to see the stream of WCG SC2. Anyone watched it in stream ?
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On December 02 2013 21:32 nimdil wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2013 21:04 sCuMBaG wrote: In Broodwar it was
2010: Flash, Kal, Jaedong on the Podium 2009: Jaedong, Stork, Bisu in the Top 3 2008: Luxury, Stork, Strelok (1 upset) 2007: Stork, PJ, Mondragon (amazingly 2 foreigners in the top 3) 2006: oov, July, Midas 2005: FOru, Androide, Legionnaire (2 foreigners yaaay!!)
SC2 2012: Parting, Adelscott, MacSed 2011: mvp, xigua, Kas
so yeah, definitely massive korean domination in broodwar.
SC2 has seen some more foreigners in the top 3 but no win. and it seems to be a much more korean dominated trend. Well in 2007 Pj > sAviOr but Stork beat Hwasin so 1 upset. in 2008 Stork 2:1 Jaedong in Round of 8 so no upset here. in 2005 Androide famously beat Silent_control but round earlier Silent_control > XellOs so 1 upset. in 2004 Midas 2:0 fOru in Round of 8 so there was no upset even though the 3rd/4th match was Christian > Androide in 2003 it was best year for foreigners as FiSheYe was leading 1-0 in the grand final before loosing 2-1. It was the only time that foreigner had a match point in final of WCG. Integerstingly enough Grrrr... won 3rd place by beating Control from Korea and HellGhost from Brazil won with H.O.T-Forever 2-0 (!). What's even more interesting in group stage each korean finished second. in 2002 blackman was 3rd after beating essay (korean) who beat starsin. And as there was double elimination at the time Elky eliminated starsin while YellOw beat essay. So there were actually two upsets in the brackets and some more in group stage (Boxer was first but with 5-2, Starsin second with 6-1, Essay first with 6-1, YellOw perfect 7-0). in 2001 Elky finished second beating gorush in looser's bracket final. Interestingly enough GoRush ended in lower bracket because of ElkY so it was actually 2-0. On the other hand BoxeR went 3-0 against ElkY. Worth to note that two koreans fell in group stage - Gundam went 3-2 loosing to Elky and Nazgul. finally in WCGC 2000 koreans went 1,2 and 4 with NTT taking 3rd place but from what I discovered NTT lost twice to Bassy in group stage (apparently) before taking him down in double elimination bracket's looser's semifinal. Another korean - RandomParkSa - fell to two germans: Rookie and Kalaschni. So all in all between 2001 and 2003 foreigners were close to taking WCG (with FiSheYe being closest) and later on Pj and Androide made miracle runs despite foreigners declining in general. The funny rumor about Blackman, was that he trained only vs specially scripted AI, because he didnt have net in home. Also i think i remember reading about Blackman somewhere in Polish press or watching in TV after his WCG run. WCG 2002 was around the time when i got my internet, i was cheering for Elky because he looked so cool in sunglasses. But damn Boxer killed them all. Dat Boxer
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oh man, sora loses and jim loses worst result ever
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On December 03 2013 05:13 SaintFrancis wrote: I would have loved to see the stream of WCG SC2. Anyone watched it in stream ?
Yes. It was pretty poor quality actually... it seemed blurry and washed out. LOTS of downtime between matches where they didn't let you know what was going on... just generic filler clips. Also they had only one solo caster for the finals. I wasn't impressed.
Quality of the competition was great though.
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