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On November 11 2013 02:26 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2013 02:16 gosublade wrote: The first game was the number one throw I've seen in sc2 for 3 years and definitely top 5 throws of all time(esports). He had the whole freaking map to himself, 200/200 banking 4k/4k vs a starving 3 base 110 food toss..
He hasn't got stage fright I think, but getting 2nd all the time got to him, and he didn't finish the game with the zerg swarm early enough with the extreme bank he had and after the game 1 he was mentally beaten a bit.
JD you still rock! If game 1 is the number one throw you've ever seen in SC2 I have to question how much SC2 you actually watch
metagame of throws
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Double Elimination next time plz... makes it a lot more fun to watch and more challenging overall.
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On November 11 2013 02:42 ArcadeR wrote: Double Elimination next time plz... makes it a lot more fun to watch and more challenging overall. im also fine with single elimination. makes some cool upsets.
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On November 10 2013 12:28 isaachukfan wrote: This finals was exactly why starcraft is the best game in the world, strategy takes all...with that final match, sOs won a new fan
Agreed.
I loved watching sOs play because he beat Jaedong with tactics and strategy instead of pure mechanics. You'd think a community composed almost entirely of nerds would be able to unanimously appreciate something like that.
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Didn't like the finals. The games weren't much fun to watch, TvZ and TvT seem to be the only matchups that can really deliver awesome games fairly consistently. Sometimes TvP, but to a lesser extend.
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JD could definitely beat Sos.. Sos is good at mind games, but overall I'd give JD the edge. Only problem is, JD has some mental-health problems, and gets nervous every time he's in an important match and is the favorite to win. That's why he has five 2nd places in one year. Game 1 & 2 were definitely throws with JD being sooo far ahead and then tilting. Game 4 could have been won with safer play and more scouting.
Anticlimatic end. But oh well. Great tourney nevertheless. The Canadian crowd of S3 finals was definitely better than the US crowd, but other than that, production, players and staff-wise this was one of the best tourneys of SC2.
Edit: And at the guy over me, definitely agree with PvZ being less exciting gameplay-wise. 90% of games evolve around P doing an all-in and Z trying to defend without losing too much eco and then overpower.
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So, Jaedong losing in the finals was a bummer, but to be honest I expected him to lose way earlier and for us to have yet another finals between WCS-korea only delegates (maru, dear, sOs, whatever).
I was super happy to see Jaedong making it so far because it game the tourney a storyline and drama we otherwise would have lacked if he got taken out with all the other "fan-favorites" in the first couple of rounds. Thank you Jaedong <3
(I'm not even that huge a fan and it was so HYPE to see his run to the finals!!)
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On November 11 2013 02:55 Dwayn wrote: Didn't like the finals. The games weren't much fun to watch, TvZ and TvT seem to be the only matchups that can really deliver awesome games fairly consistently. Sometimes TvP, but to a lesser extend.
What an odd thing to say considering the TvPs in this tournament were absolutely fantastic. Pure bullshit because the PvP were good too. blah.
On November 11 2013 02:59 Caladan wrote: JD could definitely beat Sos.. Sos is good at mind games, but overall I'd give JD the edge. Only problem is, JD has some mental-health problems, and gets nervous every time he's in an important match and is the favorite to win. That's why he has five 2nd places in one year. Game 1 & 2 were definitely throws with JD being sooo far ahead and then tilting. Game 4 could have been won with safer play and more scouting.
Anticlimatic end. But oh well. Great tourney nevertheless. The Canadian crowd of S3 finals was definitely better than the US crowd, but other than that, production, players and staff-wise this was one of the best tourneys of SC2.
Edit: And at the guy over me, definitely agree with PvZ being less exciting gameplay-wise. 90% of games evolve around P doing an all-in and Z trying to defend without losing too much eco and then overpower.
You guys and keep telling yourselves that but doesn't make you right.
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I can't believe my favourite player and also one of the most unorthodox players in the scene took the title, amazing Protoss play from sOs. I watched him through the entire thing and he looked incredible, he outplayed every single player on pretty much every single map. Biggest win of the year.
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I've been saying for a while now that when we finally get Protoss players who deeply understand and correctly utilize all of the harassment and mental headfakes that Protoss is capable of we'll finally see how dominant a truly good Protoss player can be. With this Global Finals, I am fairly confident in pointing to Dear and sOs saying "THIS is what it should look like!"
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On November 11 2013 01:06 Caladan wrote:That guy was actually cheering for Jaedong.  GGs I'm totally aware of that, but watch this gif be reposted time and time again when players do well
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i guess the jaedong curse is real... sadly... sOs played alright, but i dont feel like he deserved that title...
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On November 11 2013 03:45 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2013 01:06 Caladan wrote:On November 10 2013 11:21 Plexa wrote:![[image loading]](http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/578940jdwins.gif) GGs! Can't wait for WCS 2014. That guy was actually cheering for Jaedong.  GGs I'm totally aware of that, but watch this gif be reposted time and time again when players do well 
Oh, I thought you posted it to gloat
I'm disappointed in you Plexa =/
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RIP SC2?
Is it just me or anyone else thinks that StarCraft 2 looses credibility? I mean, this year we had like 4 different "best players",.. how could that be ? To be honest, I dont think SOS is THE best player right now, I think everyone else of the participants (with few exceptions) could have won the global finals. From now on SOS will fall just like every other "major tournament"-winner,.. because like all the other champions (besides Innovation in Season 1) noone truely was THE BEST.
what does that mean? -->If more and more different players win major tournaments,winning a tournament seems to become more and more worthless, because everyone can win it, you don't have to be the very best.
Is it Blizzards "we patch everything" - mentality ? Or just "normal" because HotS isn't even a year old? I have no idea, but its not good for the sport.
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I really hope sOs is here to say. GGs on both sides!
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Because Bogus is clearly better than everyone else right? I have news for you no one has truly been the best player in SC2. Ever. People can talk about MC Boss Toss all they want, they can talk about MVP being King all they want, they can talk about Nestea all they want. When you have as many tournaments where you will always see different competitors (heck, even if we had the same competitors) the truth is there are a lot of players who can win on any given sunday depending on several factors. There would be shifts no matter what.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On November 11 2013 04:07 Crackpot wrote: RIP SC2?
Is it just me or anyone else thinks that StarCraft 2 looses credibility? I mean, this year we had like 4 different "best players",.. how could that be ? To be honest, I dont think SOS is THE best player right now, I think everyone else of the participants (with few exceptions) could have won the global finals. From now on SOS will fall just like every other "major tournament"-winner,.. because like all the other champions (besides Innovation in Season 1) noone truely was THE BEST.
what does that mean? -->If more and more different players win major tournaments,winning a tournament seems to become more and more worthless, because everyone can win it, you don't have to be the very best.
Is it Blizzards "we patch everything" - mentality ? Or just "normal" because HotS isn't even a year old? I have no idea, but its not good for the sport.
What's the best team in soccer?
Funnily enough, you will find that such questions rarely have simple answers. It might have been in Brood War, but there are many sports where there is no undisputed #1 that get along just fine.
And this whole "you don't have to be the best to win" is annoying, stupid and offensive all at once. Of course you have to be the best. You have to play better and smarter than everyone else to win. Or you lose. That's how the game works. If you didn't know sOs well enough before the tournament, I'm sorry, but your argument is and has always been bullshit.
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The tears of JD fans in this thread makes me happy. sOs is soO casual, he can practise "only" 9 hours per day, still crushes some of the best players.
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nice write-up. i would edit this line "Jaedong’s decided for an ultralisk late game planning a switch into mutalisks. But sOs was one step ahead."
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Finally a player plays Protoss with its "full" potential and the community bashes him... SC2 its losing ground not because sOs beat JD with clever gameplay mechanics and tactics, and outsmarting him to the point of making JD looking like a fool falling each and every time in sOs plan, but because the community wants every match to be "do not chesee --> turtle for 30 minutes with harras to get a little edge --> deathball --> fight"
This is getting silly, nobody said ANYTHING when JD baneling busted Maru 2 (or was 3?) games in a row, because it was "The Dong", but suddenly comes a player, that TL defines as a "faceless korean" which actually shows how much does some people know about SC2 (watch Proleague, please...), and put JD to shame with his mind games and unorthodox play style and now everything is "SC2 is dead, RIP SC2, JD SOOO MUCH BETTER"
If i were playing for a 100k i would do everything in my power to win, and so will everyone
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