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Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
October 02 2013 20:59 GMT
#81
On October 03 2013 05:54 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 05:52 Boucot wrote:
On October 03 2013 05:45 Waxangel wrote:
On October 03 2013 05:34 Boucot wrote:
That's what Dayshi said on Facebook yesterday night as an explanation about the fact that he played random vs LucifroN (besides the lag issues).


translate his post and post it here and I'll put it in the OP!

"For those who wonder why I played Random, don't panic
First of all you know that at the moment I can barely play StarCraft between 18:00 and 23:00 because of Free (french ISP) / Battle.net
Then the last Challenger League doesn't offer a direct spot in Premier League Season 4 (very few people know that, alas)
So don't worry, I'm still Terran :D"


https://www.facebook.com/sc2dayshi/posts/519242961493824


yay :D

you should add messioso's post to OP too. He knows better than anyone else here
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Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
October 02 2013 21:02 GMT
#82
I really hope, WCS dont give wcs points anymore to DH, MLG, NASL, IEM etc...
This was just terrible and killed everything. We need a lot more independence.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
catplanetcatplanet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3837 Posts
October 02 2013 21:02 GMT
#83
Does anybody at all like this?
I think it's finally time to admit it might not be the year of Pet
SC2ShoWTimE
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany722 Posts
October 02 2013 21:03 GMT
#84
the only thing that is certain is the fact that you don't get into premier directly from this challenger season but it still has some impact on it. that's basically all blizzard told the wcs players.
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ThePlagueJG
Profile Joined May 2013
Sweden1010 Posts
October 02 2013 21:03 GMT
#85
On October 03 2013 06:02 catplanetcatplanet wrote:
Does anybody at all like this?


I dont as it made this challenger a bit less interesting
ThorZaIN | NaNiwa | SaSe | PartinG | sOs | Jaedong | sOs restored passion!
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12535 Posts
October 02 2013 21:05 GMT
#86
On October 03 2013 06:03 SC2ShoWTimE wrote:
the only thing that is certain is the fact that you don't get into premier directly from this challenger season but it still has some impact on it. that's basically all blizzard told the wcs players.


Of course, but you know, this is TL, so we need not one, not two, not three, but five separate people telling how the new system sucks even more (when they don't even know what it is yet).
No will to live, no wish to die
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 02 2013 21:09 GMT
#87
On October 03 2013 05:58 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 05:56 Plansix wrote:
On October 03 2013 05:54 NovaMB wrote:
On October 03 2013 05:50 messioso wrote:
Guys.

I don't know what some of the players are talking about, because the statement Blizzard gave them doesn't say half the things they are claiming.

Don't speculate, just wait for Blizzard to release something officially.


Thanks for your input messioso, I guess you know more than you can share with us.

So I guess its soon-tm.

You think we would have learned by now, that pro players get shit wrong all the time. Them they say it on twitter and confuse everyone.

multiple players have said this, it seems accurate.

I am sure some parts are accurate. It's only part of what is going on however. It's half the info needed to form an opinion.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
October 02 2013 21:09 GMT
#88
So does anybody know when Blizzard will announce something about the new format?
Soonish?
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 02 2013 21:10 GMT
#89
On October 03 2013 06:09 The_Red_Viper wrote:
So does anybody know when Blizzard will announce something about the new format?
Soonish?

Knowing blizzard they will announce it around May 2014.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13423 Posts
October 02 2013 21:11 GMT
#90
On October 03 2013 06:03 SC2ShoWTimE wrote:
the only thing that is certain is the fact that you don't get into premier directly from this challenger season but it still has some impact on it. that's basically all blizzard told the wcs players.


I wouldn't mind if challenger league goes away to be honest, and instead we get a high turnover qualification system with seeding from one premiere to the next for the top placing players.

The money being spent on challenger would be better invested into other things like daily or weekly cups linked to ladder worth small sums for a win and other such things for players NOT in premiere league. So those that aren't in premiere can do stuff. With the challenger league not taking up so much broadcasting time it also opens up the scene to more tournaments and personal player streams once again which is what we had more of before WCS 2013 really kicked into gear.
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14463 Posts
October 02 2013 21:12 GMT
#91
On October 03 2013 06:10 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 06:09 The_Red_Viper wrote:
So does anybody know when Blizzard will announce something about the new format?
Soonish?

Knowing blizzard they will announce it around May 2014 2015.

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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 02 2013 21:12 GMT
#92
On October 03 2013 06:05 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 06:03 SC2ShoWTimE wrote:
the only thing that is certain is the fact that you don't get into premier directly from this challenger season but it still has some impact on it. that's basically all blizzard told the wcs players.


Of course, but you know, this is TL, so we need not one, not two, not three, but five separate people telling how the new system sucks even more (when they don't even know what it is yet).

And at least 5 more people talking about flawed design and bnet 2.0. We got to get our hate on based on little to no information.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
will216
Profile Joined August 2012
United States185 Posts
October 02 2013 21:13 GMT
#93
Most likely during or after Blizzcon
I'm not the greatest , but I will be one day ...
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
October 02 2013 21:13 GMT
#94
I don't think happyzerg got the mail .

Sviatoslav Vlasiuk ‏@HappyZerg1 1m

I DID IT! I WON #WCS CHALLENGER LEAGUE! :D I am soooooooooo happy right now :D!


+ Show Spoiler +
Just kidding, huge congrats, winning here is still great! The guy deserves it, just sad it wasn't in season 2.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
GoodSirTets
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada200 Posts
October 02 2013 21:15 GMT
#95
Well it's not as though anybody watches challenger for NA and EU. It makes way more sense for those regions to just have premier qualifiers.
High Diamond/ Low Masters :^)
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-02 21:16:14
October 02 2013 21:15 GMT
#96
On October 03 2013 05:20 for_the_swarm wrote:
its hilarious and pathetic the lengths they will go to to keep the koreans out. What will happen if more koreans actually move to north america and europe like MC and MMA and they still keep winning? are you then going to ban them from tournaments because of their ethnicity? the "residency and region lock" argument wont work anymore.. lol


They? Blizzard is only doing this (if they even are) because most people wanted region locks. Don`t act as if Blizzard always wanted this because they could have done that this season.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
October 02 2013 21:17 GMT
#97
On October 03 2013 06:15 GoodSirTets wrote:
Well it's not as though anybody watches challenger for NA and EU. It makes way more sense for those regions to just have premier qualifiers.

lots of people watch challenger but it's hard to care when the organizers don't actually care and it shows.
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TaishiCi
Profile Joined September 2013
Korea (South)211 Posts
October 02 2013 21:24 GMT
#98
My prediction is that there will be a region lock (residency), but EU/NA challenger league will be gone.
KR Code S and A will receive a big boost in funding compared to EU/NA, maybe even adding on another league.
Everything is offline.
24/7 WCS stream with variety of content from the Premiere Leagues and Challenger league.

Hope: They will add on a team league system similar to LCS.

Bottom line: The scene is going to be much smaller in the player pool.
There will be less overall broadcast games by WCS.
Scaling down content amount and increasing the quality of the content will keep the scene alive for another year at least.

In the end: The scene is going to limp along until the release of LoTV at least.
Significant improvements are needed in LoTV to grow the scene.
THERE WILL BE PROFESSIONAL STARCRAFT 2 FOR ANOTHER YEAR!!!!!
Dae Han Min Gook Man Sae!!!
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-02 21:25:58
October 02 2013 21:25 GMT
#99
Makes sense why Mvp forfeited if this is true. Hopefully he will return to Korea in 2014 and get that G5L before he retires.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
October 02 2013 21:28 GMT
#100
On October 03 2013 06:24 TaishiCi wrote:
My prediction is that there will be a region lock (residency), but EU/NA challenger league will be gone.
KR Code S and A will receive a big boost in funding compared to EU/NA, maybe even adding on another league.
Everything is offline.
24/7 WCS stream with variety of content from the Premiere Leagues and Challenger league.

Hope: They will add on a team league system similar to LCS.

Bottom line: The scene is going to be much smaller in the player pool.
There will be less overall broadcast games by WCS.
Scaling down content amount and increasing the quality of the content will keep the scene alive for another year at least.

In the end: The scene is going to limp along until the release of LoTV at least.
Significant improvements are needed in LoTV to grow the scene.
THERE WILL BE PROFESSIONAL STARCRAFT 2 FOR ANOTHER YEAR!!!!!


I guarantee you professional SC2 at least until wc4 or sc3 comes out.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
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