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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
October 02 2013 21:29 GMT
#101
On October 03 2013 06:12 Aeromi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 06:10 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 03 2013 06:09 The_Red_Viper wrote:
So does anybody know when Blizzard will announce something about the new format?
Soonish?

Knowing blizzard they will announce it around May 2014 2015.


The announcement will be made during the commercials of the Warcraft movie, december 2015.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
October 02 2013 21:30 GMT
#102
Holy shit, allot of stuff happening all at once O_o.
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
TaishiCi
Profile Joined September 2013
Korea (South)211 Posts
October 02 2013 21:38 GMT
#103
On October 03 2013 06:28 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 06:24 TaishiCi wrote:
My prediction is that there will be a region lock (residency), but EU/NA challenger league will be gone.
KR Code S and A will receive a big boost in funding compared to EU/NA, maybe even adding on another league.
Everything is offline.
24/7 WCS stream with variety of content from the Premiere Leagues and Challenger league.

Hope: They will add on a team league system similar to LCS.

Bottom line: The scene is going to be much smaller in the player pool.
There will be less overall broadcast games by WCS.
Scaling down content amount and increasing the quality of the content will keep the scene alive for another year at least.

In the end: The scene is going to limp along until the release of LoTV at least.
Significant improvements are needed in LoTV to grow the scene.
THERE WILL BE PROFESSIONAL STARCRAFT 2 FOR ANOTHER YEAR!!!!!


I guarantee you professional SC2 at least until wc4 or sc3 comes out.

I don't know what gives you such confidence.
What gives you the confidence that there will be a wc4 or sc3?
There are less and less RTS coming out year by year.

Dae Han Min Gook Man Sae!!!
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
October 02 2013 21:41 GMT
#104
Hopefully we get some info from Blizz and we don't have to wait til Blizzcon to hear about all next years plans.
rename
Profile Joined February 2012
Estonia329 Posts
October 02 2013 21:41 GMT
#105
On October 03 2013 06:38 TaishiCi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 06:28 Musicus wrote:
On October 03 2013 06:24 TaishiCi wrote:
My prediction is that there will be a region lock (residency), but EU/NA challenger league will be gone.
KR Code S and A will receive a big boost in funding compared to EU/NA, maybe even adding on another league.
Everything is offline.
24/7 WCS stream with variety of content from the Premiere Leagues and Challenger league.

Hope: They will add on a team league system similar to LCS.

Bottom line: The scene is going to be much smaller in the player pool.
There will be less overall broadcast games by WCS.
Scaling down content amount and increasing the quality of the content will keep the scene alive for another year at least.

In the end: The scene is going to limp along until the release of LoTV at least.
Significant improvements are needed in LoTV to grow the scene.
THERE WILL BE PROFESSIONAL STARCRAFT 2 FOR ANOTHER YEAR!!!!!


I guarantee you professional SC2 at least until wc4 or sc3 comes out.

I don't know what gives you such confidence.
What gives you the confidence that there will be a wc4 or sc3?
There are less and less RTS coming out year by year.



What else are people who like RTS'es supposed to watch if not starcraft2?

As long as there is no competition in the RTS scene... starcraft2 wont completely die out. And so far only hope's for competition is probably WC4 or that day9+artillery project ( but both of those are at concept stage at best so far ).
Zenniv
Profile Joined September 2011
United States545 Posts
October 02 2013 21:51 GMT
#106
Wat in the F is the point of the challenger league then?? Just give better seeding? C'mon thats dumb, I really dont like where the scene is goin anymore....
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-02 21:56:46
October 02 2013 21:55 GMT
#107
On October 03 2013 06:38 TaishiCi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 06:28 Musicus wrote:
On October 03 2013 06:24 TaishiCi wrote:
My prediction is that there will be a region lock (residency), but EU/NA challenger league will be gone.
KR Code S and A will receive a big boost in funding compared to EU/NA, maybe even adding on another league.
Everything is offline.
24/7 WCS stream with variety of content from the Premiere Leagues and Challenger league.

Hope: They will add on a team league system similar to LCS.

Bottom line: The scene is going to be much smaller in the player pool.
There will be less overall broadcast games by WCS.
Scaling down content amount and increasing the quality of the content will keep the scene alive for another year at least.

In the end: The scene is going to limp along until the release of LoTV at least.
Significant improvements are needed in LoTV to grow the scene.
THERE WILL BE PROFESSIONAL STARCRAFT 2 FOR ANOTHER YEAR!!!!!


I guarantee you professional SC2 at least until wc4 or sc3 comes out.

I don't know what gives you such confidence.
What gives you the confidence that there will be a wc4 or sc3?
There are less and less RTS coming out year by year.



Well Blizzard has a monopoly on competitive rts games and warcraft and starcraft are two of their biggest franchises. There are way less successful games out there getting sequels. Less and less rts coming out is the reason why sc and wc will stay successful while every other publishers focuses on mobas. It's a niche. I think there will always be a healthy but maybe smaller rts scene, and Blizzard are the best when it comes to rts.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
RyLai
Profile Joined May 2011
United States477 Posts
October 02 2013 21:56 GMT
#108
Can't we just blow up Blizzard HQ, pirate SC2 (and call it like Intergalactic Wars) and just run SC2 ourselves? Seriously, this is ridiculous. Maybe this is why Naniwa lost his match - cause it doesn't mean jack shit and we know what Naniwa likes to do when his matches don't mean jack shit (PROBE RUSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH).

But in all seriousness, if we pirate SC2 and run it ourselves, we can actually get some good game changes (as well as redesigning Protoss) and revitalize the damned thing ourselves. Or we can just say fuck it, and remake Brood War with up-to-date graphics.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
October 02 2013 21:57 GMT
#109
+ Show Spoiler +

he won his match..
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RyLai
Profile Joined May 2011
United States477 Posts
October 02 2013 22:08 GMT
#110
On October 03 2013 06:57 NovemberstOrm wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

he won his match..


Shit nvm. Was thinking of Grubby and TLO. ><
rename
Profile Joined February 2012
Estonia329 Posts
October 02 2013 22:10 GMT
#111
On October 03 2013 06:56 RyLai wrote:
cause it doesn't mean jack shit and we know what Naniwa likes to do when his matches don't mean jack shit (PROBE RUSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH).


If MC and duckdeok both lose in ro8, naniwa jumps from 15th to 13th place if he places 1-8th in challenger league thanks to those extra 75 points.

Those 75 points possibly can earn him a blizzcon spot.


Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
October 02 2013 22:11 GMT
#112
Hmmmm. No challenger league, eh? Just qualifiers?
fezvez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France3021 Posts
October 02 2013 22:14 GMT
#113
It's a good thing.

You can't change a bad system if you are reluctant to things as basic as who get seeds.
negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
October 02 2013 23:17 GMT
#114
of all the suggestions for fixing WCS, I don't think I've ever heard anyone say "kill Code A"

good job
FO-nTTaX
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Johto4958 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-02 23:18:21
October 02 2013 23:17 GMT
#115
well, what really sucks in my eyes is Blizzards information policy. Why not release this information public?
If there will be a shitstorm for the changes, it will come, no matter when the information is released, but if they don't release the information, the shitstorm will come even if their news are good ones, just because noone knows for sure what will be changed.
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hmsrenown
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1263 Posts
October 02 2013 23:23 GMT
#116
Chinese SC2 players becomes collateral damage yet again.
scares
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany239 Posts
October 02 2013 23:45 GMT
#117
On October 03 2013 06:56 RyLai wrote:
Can't we just blow up Blizzard HQ, pirate SC2 (and call it like Intergalactic Wars) and just run SC2 ourselves? Seriously, this is ridiculous. Maybe this is why Naniwa lost his match - cause it doesn't mean jack shit and we know what Naniwa likes to do when his matches don't mean jack shit (PROBE RUSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH).

But in all seriousness, if we pirate SC2 and run it ourselves, we can actually get some good game changes (as well as redesigning Protoss) and revitalize the damned thing ourselves. Or we can just say fuck it, and remake Brood War with up-to-date graphics.


Don't be silly we could never keep the game balanced. I mean the community already seems split whether to make the game mechanically harder or not, what importance strategy should play compared to mechanics and so on. Plus the balance whine with every single recommended change. The community is too large to find a good balance there.
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suicideyear
Profile Joined December 2012
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
October 02 2013 23:59 GMT
#118
this is fucking stupid
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ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
October 03 2013 00:01 GMT
#119
On October 03 2013 06:38 TaishiCi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 06:28 Musicus wrote:
On October 03 2013 06:24 TaishiCi wrote:
My prediction is that there will be a region lock (residency), but EU/NA challenger league will be gone.
KR Code S and A will receive a big boost in funding compared to EU/NA, maybe even adding on another league.
Everything is offline.
24/7 WCS stream with variety of content from the Premiere Leagues and Challenger league.

Hope: They will add on a team league system similar to LCS.

Bottom line: The scene is going to be much smaller in the player pool.
There will be less overall broadcast games by WCS.
Scaling down content amount and increasing the quality of the content will keep the scene alive for another year at least.

In the end: The scene is going to limp along until the release of LoTV at least.
Significant improvements are needed in LoTV to grow the scene.
THERE WILL BE PROFESSIONAL STARCRAFT 2 FOR ANOTHER YEAR!!!!!


I guarantee you professional SC2 at least until wc4 or sc3 comes out.

I don't know what gives you such confidence.
What gives you the confidence that there will be a wc4 or sc3?
There are less and less RTS coming out year by year.


WC and SC are both very successful brands that sold well. There will be successors, I'd bet on that - even if RTS' popularity is declining and more casual friendly games such as Mobas are on the rise. To each his own, I guess.
Get off my lawn, young punks
bduddy
Profile Joined May 2012
United States1326 Posts
October 03 2013 00:20 GMT
#120
Just kill WCS. Please. It's not helping anything, and it's becoming increasingly obvious that Blizzard has no idea what they're doing with it. I don't often say things like that, and I think SC2 as a game is great, but WCS!2013-version is hopeless.
>Liquid'Nazgul: Of course you are completely right
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