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Challenger Season 3 not giving direct Premier Seeds? - Pag…

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Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
October 02 2013 20:49 GMT
#61
On October 03 2013 05:45 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 05:34 Boucot wrote:
That's what Dayshi said on Facebook yesterday night as an explanation about the fact that he played random vs LucifroN (besides the lag issues).


translate his post and post it here and I'll put it in the OP!

Ensuite, la dernière Challenger league n'apporte pas de spot direct pour la Premier League S4 (peu de gens le savent, helas)
=> The last Challenger league [the one being played now] does'nt give any direct seed for the Premier League S4 (sadly, few people know about it)
LiquipediaWe will have only each other at the last
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-02 20:51:33
October 02 2013 20:49 GMT
#62
On October 03 2013 05:44 NovemberstOrm wrote:
seems like they don't care at all about challenger, wcs am starts in under 2 hours and they don't even have the bracket posted with the matches. apparently the 5 matches they were casting today were said at the end of last nights premier broadcast but it's not posted on the website(battle.net wcs portal or nasl's) so it makes sense about what will happen to challenger league if it's true about NA too which it probably is, I don't think the same will happen to korea though.


Its sad really, the players in challenger league are no doubt about as strong as the premier players but from a broadcasting and announcement standpoint they are screwed over season after season.

ESL announced the challenger groups last season a single day before they started, they outsourced the broadcast to someone else(and notably worse, significantly) even though they have 2 full-time casters hired (apollo specifically for WCS).
NASL and MLG did horrible jobs with their qualifiers, nobody knew they were even happening, no public brackets etc. At least their broadcasts are the same level as the Premier broadcasts, but atrocious are both (premier and challenger).

All in all challenger league was shit (as blunt as it sounds) and its sad, there couldve been done so much more
nickbradvica
Profile Joined June 2010
United States20 Posts
October 02 2013 20:50 GMT
#63
I don't think Blizzard really has much of a clue about what they're doing. I'm not impressed with their company AT ALL, and I think they're just a bunch of gaming nerds flailing their arms in a capitalist world. They need some consultant help...badly.

WCS is killing SC2 in the Korean scene, it is killing the foreign scene because Korean players are going to EU and NA but not actually moving there, and it is killing sponsorships. To be taken over by games like LoL and DotA is just embarrassing in my opinion--they're not even good, which shows just how bad Blizzard is running things for the only RTS game around.

tl;dr: Blizzard can't even succeed with a monopoly. smh
"I tech straight to ultras"
umade
Profile Joined September 2011
Sweden172 Posts
October 02 2013 20:50 GMT
#64
I like having a more structured kind of tournament. However, it really fucked every other tournament. I mean, this year we've had what, three DH tournaments and we're going to have a IEM and then? I honestly can't remember any other since the start of WCS.
Awesomeness
messioso
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark635 Posts
October 02 2013 20:50 GMT
#65
Guys.

I don't know what some of the players are talking about, because the statement Blizzard gave them doesn't say half the things they are claiming.

Don't speculate, just wait for Blizzard to release something officially.
Former ESL League Operations. I ran IEM/WCS for like 3 years or something. I did map vetos on a tablet. That guy.
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
October 02 2013 20:50 GMT
#66
On October 03 2013 05:45 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 05:34 Boucot wrote:
That's what Dayshi said on Facebook yesterday night as an explanation about the fact that he played random vs LucifroN (besides the lag issues).


translate his post and post it here and I'll put it in the OP!



People wonder why I played random. First of all you know that I can't play Starcraft between 6.PM and 11.PM thanks to B.net/Free ( French ISP ). Then the last Challenger League doesn't bring you in Premier League for 2014. and a few people know this fact.
Don't wory, I stay Terran.


Bad translation but still a translation
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
tomastaz
Profile Joined January 2013
United States976 Posts
October 02 2013 20:51 GMT
#67
I'm sure there's a reason for this. I'm confidant that it's a good reason too.
No church in the wild --- @tzhang0126
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-02 20:52:04
October 02 2013 20:51 GMT
#68
On October 03 2013 05:50 Aeromi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 05:45 Waxangel wrote:
On October 03 2013 05:34 Boucot wrote:
That's what Dayshi said on Facebook yesterday night as an explanation about the fact that he played random vs LucifroN (besides the lag issues).


translate his post and post it here and I'll put it in the OP!



People wonder why I played random. First of all you know that I can't play Starcraft between 6.PM and 11.PM thanks to B.net/Free ( French ISP ). Then the last Challenger League doesn't bring you in Premier League for 2014. and a few people know this fact.
Don't wory, I stay Terran.


Bad translation but still a translation

wait what about that isp thing? for what reason is that? o.O
Moderatorlickypiddy
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
October 02 2013 20:52 GMT
#69
On October 03 2013 05:45 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 05:34 Boucot wrote:
That's what Dayshi said on Facebook yesterday night as an explanation about the fact that he played random vs LucifroN (besides the lag issues).


translate his post and post it here and I'll put it in the OP!

"For those who wonder why I played Random, don't panic
First of all you know that at the moment I can barely play StarCraft between 18:00 and 23:00 because of Free (french ISP) / Battle.net
Then the last Challenger League doesn't offer a direct spot in Premier League Season 4 (very few people know that, alas)
So don't worry, I'm still Terran :D"


https://www.facebook.com/sc2dayshi/posts/519242961493824
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
October 02 2013 20:53 GMT
#70
On October 03 2013 05:51 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 05:50 Aeromi wrote:
On October 03 2013 05:45 Waxangel wrote:
On October 03 2013 05:34 Boucot wrote:
That's what Dayshi said on Facebook yesterday night as an explanation about the fact that he played random vs LucifroN (besides the lag issues).


translate his post and post it here and I'll put it in the OP!



People wonder why I played random. First of all you know that I can't play Starcraft between 6.PM and 11.PM thanks to B.net/Free ( French ISP ). Then the last Challenger League doesn't bring you in Premier League for 2014. and a few people know this fact.
Don't wory, I stay Terran.


Bad translation but still a translation

wait what about that isp thing? for what reason is that? o.O



Free obviously reduced french connections because they has issues with YouTube/Twitch and thanks to that you have a shitty ping and you can't play.
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
October 02 2013 20:53 GMT
#71
SC2 isn't huge like soccer where you can have a Champions and Europa league, and Premier/Championship leagues, etc. Even LoL LCS doesn't have any sort of minor league. Challenger makes no sense for a game as small as SC2, glad to see it go.
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
October 02 2013 20:54 GMT
#72
On October 03 2013 05:50 messioso wrote:
Guys.

I don't know what some of the players are talking about, because the statement Blizzard gave them doesn't say half the things they are claiming.

Don't speculate, just wait for Blizzard to release something officially.


Thanks for your input messioso, I guess you know more than you can share with us.

So I guess its soon-tm.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33603 Posts
October 02 2013 20:54 GMT
#73
On October 03 2013 05:52 Boucot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 05:45 Waxangel wrote:
On October 03 2013 05:34 Boucot wrote:
That's what Dayshi said on Facebook yesterday night as an explanation about the fact that he played random vs LucifroN (besides the lag issues).


translate his post and post it here and I'll put it in the OP!

Show nested quote +
"For those who wonder why I played Random, don't panic
First of all you know that at the moment I can barely play StarCraft between 18:00 and 23:00 because of Free (french ISP) / Battle.net
Then the last Challenger League doesn't offer a direct spot in Premier League Season 4 (very few people know that, alas)
So don't worry, I'm still Terran :D"


https://www.facebook.com/sc2dayshi/posts/519242961493824


yay :D
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
October 02 2013 20:56 GMT
#74
On October 03 2013 05:53 Cheren wrote:
SC2 isn't huge like soccer where you can have a Champions and Europa league, and Premier/Championship leagues, etc. Even LoL LCS doesn't have any sort of minor league. Challenger makes no sense for a game as small as SC2, glad to see it go.

I agree, 3 entire leagues with Premier/Challenger gather too many players given the size of the scene. I'd prefer a removal of Challenger League and an addition of a 4th region (Asia/Oceania).
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 02 2013 20:56 GMT
#75
On October 03 2013 05:54 NovaMB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 05:50 messioso wrote:
Guys.

I don't know what some of the players are talking about, because the statement Blizzard gave them doesn't say half the things they are claiming.

Don't speculate, just wait for Blizzard to release something officially.


Thanks for your input messioso, I guess you know more than you can share with us.

So I guess its soon-tm.

You think we would have learned by now, that pro players get shit wrong all the time. Them they say it on twitter and confuse everyone.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Pirfiktshon
Profile Joined June 2013
United States1072 Posts
October 02 2013 20:57 GMT
#76
I wouldn't be overly concerned about it like messioso said until blizz releases something official
ROOTCatZ
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Peru1226 Posts
October 02 2013 20:58 GMT
#77
Yeah, im fairly sure players weren't suppossed to speak about this, there are changes coming to the format of WCS next year. Blizzard is doing all they can to improve the system, this is good news, not bad. Just sucks for players that got into challenger through qualifiers, everyone else should've known what was going on beforehand.
Progamerwww.root-gaming.com
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
October 02 2013 20:58 GMT
#78
On October 03 2013 05:56 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 05:54 NovaMB wrote:
On October 03 2013 05:50 messioso wrote:
Guys.

I don't know what some of the players are talking about, because the statement Blizzard gave them doesn't say half the things they are claiming.

Don't speculate, just wait for Blizzard to release something officially.


Thanks for your input messioso, I guess you know more than you can share with us.

So I guess its soon-tm.

You think we would have learned by now, that pro players get shit wrong all the time. Them they say it on twitter and confuse everyone.

multiple players have said this, it seems accurate.
Moderatorlickypiddy
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
October 02 2013 20:59 GMT
#79
Well, some kind of stronger region locking is coming for certain. The current model isn't very exciting for most and it has pretty much completely destroyed the NA scene.

I don't think we will be given more details until Blizzcon though.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
October 02 2013 20:59 GMT
#80
On October 03 2013 05:13 Aunvilgod wrote:
Well this surely does seem like region locking.

I just can't believe GOM would be okay with this. I'd be very surprised if that applied for GSL too.

GOM would be the only ones profiting from a region lock.

if all the Koreans that are currently playing in WCS AM and EU would move back to WCS KR, not only would the level of competition in WCS EU and especially WCS AM be greatly diminshed, but the level of WCS KR would be even higher and it would feel like the most exclusive, awesome thing ever (which it is). if anything, NASL should be scared of a region lock more than anyone.

but we don't even know what's going to end up happening here. so i suggest we just lean back and wait.
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