• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 02:07
CET 07:07
KST 15:07
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy4ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13
Community News
Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool21Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win32026 KungFu Cup Announcement6BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled12Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains18
StarCraft 2
General
Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Serral: 24’ EWC form was hurt by military service Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy Weekly Cups (August 25-31): Clem's Last Straw?
Tourneys
KSL Week 87 [GSL CK] #2: Team Classic vs. Team Solar 2026 KungFu Cup Announcement [GSL CK] #1: Team Maru vs. Team herO RSL Season 4 announced for March-April
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026] Map Editor closed ?
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 517 Distant Threat Mutation # 516 Specter of Death Mutation # 515 Together Forever
Brood War
General
Bing Homepage Quiz Today Guess the Image JaeDong's form before ASL Gypsy to Korea BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL21 General Discussion
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL22] Open Qualifiers & Ladder Tours IPSL Spring 2026 is here!
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular?
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile General RTS Discussion Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Mexico's Drug War Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 3028 users

Challenger Season 3 not giving direct Premier Seeds? - Pag…

Forum Index > SC2 General
139 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 02 2013 20:34 GMT
#41
On October 03 2013 05:30 Pirfiktshon wrote:
Seriously.... 100% agree with plansix I don't think there is a single american that doesn't love the fact that polt has moved here and is competing under the AM flag

I have no problem declaring any Korean an all America SC2 hero. Just move over, rent an apartment and try our beer and food. Play on our ladder and make our scene better. But coming over for 3 weeks is not what I am looking for.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
October 02 2013 20:35 GMT
#42
On October 03 2013 05:32 uThermal wrote:
They are removing challenger league and only making a premier league, the results in challenger league this season will only provide seeds for the premier league qualifier.


Whaaaat, removing challenger completely? So code A gone? That's some big news right here.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
herMan
Profile Joined November 2010
Japan2056 Posts
October 02 2013 20:35 GMT
#43
The GSL tournament format has always felt a bit forced in the other regions in my humble opinion. The community has been trashing Blizzard with fury recently and rightfully so, I hope they really get their act together and this move might be the first step of many.

Not many people have hope for the scene according to the forums and I don't like when the internet mob talk trash like they know everything what's going to happen with certainty.
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
October 02 2013 20:35 GMT
#44
On October 03 2013 05:32 uThermal wrote:
They are removing challenger league and only making a premier league, the results in challenger league this season will only provide seeds for the premier league qualifier.



Meh. o_o
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
scares
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany239 Posts
October 02 2013 20:35 GMT
#45
To be fair it makes sense to restart everything if they are planning on doing a region lock. While it would be nice to make this years challenger important, it would be quite a hassle to look who is going to play where and everything. And one should not underestimate being seeded in a 1000 person bracket, makes for a lot less games and way more relaxing
Your ad could be here
scares
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany239 Posts
October 02 2013 20:38 GMT
#46
On October 03 2013 05:34 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 05:30 Pirfiktshon wrote:
Seriously.... 100% agree with plansix I don't think there is a single american that doesn't love the fact that polt has moved here and is competing under the AM flag

I have no problem declaring any Korean an all America SC2 hero. Just move over, rent an apartment and try our beer and food. Play on our ladder and make our scene better. But coming over for 3 weeks is not what I am looking for.

I guess that is what the region lock is meant to stop (hopefully). Though sometimes i do wonder what would have happened if wcs would have just been a teamleague with weekly matches and each team like say 6 or 8 "pros" on them, and keep the gsl/osl/dreamhack/nasl/mlg/iem and all those as the individuals. I feel region locking teams would be much easier than players, who might just want to move around :/.

But yeah i think if someone is willing to actually MOVE country, i see no reason to stop them.
Your ad could be here
Cinim
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark866 Posts
October 02 2013 20:38 GMT
#47
lets just hope that this means that there will be some changes to the current system, perhaps something which will make it even more awesome :D!!
Hell, it's about time
jeri
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany335 Posts
October 02 2013 20:41 GMT
#48
lol?
"The voices are back. Excellent." Dexter Morgan
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
October 02 2013 20:42 GMT
#49
Very puzzling, I can't even begin to guess which changes they will implement.
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-02 20:44:49
October 02 2013 20:43 GMT
#50
On October 03 2013 05:35 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 05:32 uThermal wrote:
They are removing challenger league and only making a premier league, the results in challenger league this season will only provide seeds for the premier league qualifier.


Whaaaat, removing challenger completely? So code A gone? That's some big news right here.


If that is true, I can imagine it will be a gigantic qualfier for 24 spots after every season and only top8 from the previous season stays in. That might lead to some insanely amazing qualifiers but I feel this screws over the players right now who are competing in Challenger. Atleast the turnover from season to season would be more drastic than 8 players.

And it can be said for certain this wont apply to Korea, Blizzard wouldnt dare to pull something like this there.

E: Oh and it puts heavy pressure on Korean players competing in foreign regions, you wouldnt want to play in one of these gigantic and stacked qualifiers if you are playing from Korea.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-02 20:45:36
October 02 2013 20:44 GMT
#51
seems like they don't care at all about challenger, wcs am starts in under 2 hours and they don't even have the bracket posted with the matches. apparently the 5 matches they were casting today were said at the end of last nights premier broadcast but it's not posted on the website(battle.net wcs portal or nasl's) so it makes sense about what will happen to challenger league if it's true about NA too which it probably is, I don't think the same will happen to korea though.
Moderatorlickypiddy
Pirfiktshon
Profile Joined June 2013
United States1072 Posts
October 02 2013 20:44 GMT
#52
On October 03 2013 05:34 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 05:30 Pirfiktshon wrote:
Seriously.... 100% agree with plansix I don't think there is a single american that doesn't love the fact that polt has moved here and is competing under the AM flag

I have no problem declaring any Korean an all America SC2 hero. Just move over, rent an apartment and try our beer and food. Play on our ladder and make our scene better. But coming over for 3 weeks is not what I am looking for.



Yea pretty much hahaha Heck if I had the room I'd let them stay with me to just bolster the NA scene hahahahaha
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33578 Posts
October 02 2013 20:45 GMT
#53
On October 03 2013 05:34 Boucot wrote:
That's what Dayshi said on Facebook yesterday night as an explanation about the fact that he played random vs LucifroN (besides the lag issues).


translate his post and post it here and I'll put it in the OP!
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
NervO
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Netherlands511 Posts
October 02 2013 20:46 GMT
#54
Stupid blizztards
Currently working with Team Acer CSGO | @AcerNervO
Hermanoid
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden213 Posts
October 02 2013 20:46 GMT
#55
Let's respond to the stream of retiring players with provking more players, including up and coming ones, to retire.

Damn, I hope this stays in EU. That's bad enough if it takes off, but better than it being implemented everywhere. Hopefully it's implemented nowhere in the end.
xyzåäö
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
October 02 2013 20:47 GMT
#56
On October 03 2013 05:43 NovaMB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 05:35 Musicus wrote:
On October 03 2013 05:32 uThermal wrote:
They are removing challenger league and only making a premier league, the results in challenger league this season will only provide seeds for the premier league qualifier.


Whaaaat, removing challenger completely? So code A gone? That's some big news right here.


If that is true, I can imagine it will be a gigantic qualfier for 24 spots after every season and only top8 from the previous season stays in. That might lead to some insanely amazing qualifiers but I feel this screws over the players right now who are competing in Challenger. Atleast the turnover from season to season would be more drastic than 8 players.

And it can be said for certain this wont apply to Korea, Blizzard wouldnt dare to pull something like this there.

I would prefer a 16/16 distribution (16 from Premier, 16 from qualifiers). 8:24 seems very harsh. But I kinda approve the removal of Challenger League. It takes too much time and participates a lot in the WCS oversaturation.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 02 2013 20:48 GMT
#57
Ok bitter and Rotterdam seem to be pretty positive about this on twitter. I'm not that worried and I want to see how Blizzard is switching it up.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
October 02 2013 20:48 GMT
#58
On October 03 2013 05:43 NovaMB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 05:35 Musicus wrote:
On October 03 2013 05:32 uThermal wrote:
They are removing challenger league and only making a premier league, the results in challenger league this season will only provide seeds for the premier league qualifier.


Whaaaat, removing challenger completely? So code A gone? That's some big news right here.


If that is true, I can imagine it will be a gigantic qualfier for 24 spots after every season and only top8 from the previous season stays in. That might lead to some insanely amazing qualifiers but I feel this screws over the players right now who are competing in Challenger. Atleast the turnover from season to season would be more drastic than 8 players.

And it can be said for certain this wont apply to Korea, Blizzard wouldnt dare to pull something like this there.

E: Oh and it puts heavy pressure on Korean players competing in foreign regions, you wouldnt want to play in one of these gigantic and stacked qualifiers if you are playing from Korea.



Qualifier tournament with RO2096.
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
Hadronsbecrazy
Profile Joined September 2013
United Kingdom551 Posts
October 02 2013 20:48 GMT
#59
wow, blizzard sees their retarded system killing their own game, whats their solution ? make the an even more retarded system
No need Build Orders, Only Micro,Favourite Players: Maru, Zest, soOjwa , CJherO
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
October 02 2013 20:49 GMT
#60
On October 03 2013 05:45 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 05:34 Boucot wrote:
That's what Dayshi said on Facebook yesterday night as an explanation about the fact that he played random vs LucifroN (besides the lag issues).


translate his post and post it here and I'll put it in the OP!



of those who wondered WHY!!? it's simply because i have 15 spikes/mins beetwen 6pm-11pm & challenger bracket does not matter so much. GG!
Moderatorlickypiddy
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
Code For Giants Cup LATAM #5
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 5763
Dewaltoss 143
Leta 96
ggaemo 71
Noble 43
Bale 28
Icarus 15
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm107
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K825
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King135
Other Games
C9.Mang0289
Trikslyr21
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick725
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream158
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• practicex 64
• Sammyuel 47
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Rush1441
• Lourlo1432
• HappyZerGling159
Upcoming Events
KCM Race Survival
3h 53m
Protoss vs Terran
WardiTV Team League
5h 53m
Big Brain Bouts
10h 53m
LetaleX vs Babymarine
Harstem vs GgMaChine
Clem vs Serral
Korean StarCraft League
20h 53m
RSL Revival
1d 3h
Maru vs Zoun
Cure vs ByuN
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 8h
BSL
1d 13h
RSL Revival
2 days
herO vs MaxPax
Rogue vs TriGGeR
BSL
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Sharp vs Scan
Rain vs Mong
Wardi Open
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Soulkey vs Ample
JyJ vs sSak
Replay Cast
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
hero vs YSC
Larva vs Shine
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
WardiTV Team League
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

Jeongseon Sooper Cup
BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
2026 Changsha Offline CUP
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 1
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
NationLESS Cup
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.