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On September 01 2013 02:30 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 00:36 monk wrote: According to the reddit thread, Mini has retired as well. That's a shame. Like I said in the other thread, these players should have no problems finding teams. Whether it be KeSPA or not. It's up to them if they want to continue playing.
Not when teams are now cutting down to 5-6 players per team.
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I heard GSTL season2 begins September 3rd but no information comes out. If MVP Prime IM leaves eSF,GSTL is played only by FXO Startale Soul Axiom-Acer AZUBU?
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On September 01 2013 02:35 L0L wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 02:30 StarStruck wrote:On September 01 2013 00:36 monk wrote: According to the reddit thread, Mini has retired as well. That's a shame. Like I said in the other thread, these players should have no problems finding teams. Whether it be KeSPA or not. It's up to them if they want to continue playing. Not when teams are now cutting down to 5-6 players per team.
Because the lack of popularity level generated from the game.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
I am surprised by the number of hyvaa fans tbh
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On September 01 2013 02:28 Arceus wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 02:24 babylon wrote:On September 01 2013 02:22 Arceus wrote:On September 01 2013 02:15 lichter wrote: If Blizz makes SC2 f2p and it takes off in China you're all gonna have to start learning Mandarin hahaha Wc3 was free to play too and aside from 3, 4 top players/abusers, China only semi-dominated when no one plays the game anymore. You need platform & infrastructure to reach the top in gaming and every country included China are light years behind Korea for this matter Human hater. Whining about abuse when Korea has Lyn.  Lyn had been winning uncountable inCups and performing well in WC3L long before the Blademaster disease Lol, Lyn is my second favorite player and probably the most talented War3 player in terms of raw skill, but he is flat out also one of the most abusive BM users in the history of the game.
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On September 01 2013 02:29 ForTehDarkseid wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 02:21 Dingodile wrote:On September 01 2013 02:19 ForTehDarkseid wrote:On September 01 2013 02:10 AmuseD wrote:On September 01 2013 02:01 ForTehDarkseid wrote:On September 01 2013 01:58 AmuseD wrote:On September 01 2013 01:55 ForTehDarkseid wrote:On September 01 2013 01:45 AmuseD wrote: I hate to see that so much people are acting like ''omg sc2 is dead or dying''.
Get a grip on yourself and be realistic.
Yes old BW players are retiring from starcraft 2, I am at least happy that they gave it a try and decided to stop. So be it. Good luck to them in the future. Starcraft 2 will continue no matter what! You don't see (or don't want to see) the big picture in the background. What is there else to see? It already has been said that the starcraft 2 scene is over packed. Economic crisis is hitting every company. But still the starcraft 2 scene is not dying. If you can point me out what I overlooked that would be great  ESports aren't running on a money, they are running on a passion. I can shake your hand on that ofcourse. But doing something for A LIVING, then pasion won't feed and pay bills for you. I was talking in an economical perspective Do you think Mini or hyvva were earning more when they were playing BW? I honestly doubt it. Do you know what passion means? I honestly doubt it. Your point is? People shouldn't get me wrong, I am not here about to argue about SC2's future. I am here because you can't say "everything is well", when it clearly bleeds and hurts people we love and respect. You are right. Main problem in sc2 is cleary the (longtime-)passion (the same as in diablo3). If you have passion, then you dont care so much about money or even you dont want money. But if you dont have passion, then you only play if you get paid for it or you quit it. First happened in scbw and wc3 time, the latter in sc2. I follow esports since 2004 and my impressions says exactly so if I look the players. edit: the same with the audience, the passion from the sc2 audience so much lesser than in scbw/wc3, in all countries around the world (except sweden and france).
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I read "Hwangsin" as "Hwasin". Was excited for a moment. They would have a great chance in GSTL if they still had Innovation, but now I'm not sure if Trap and Dear can carry it.
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ok what the fuck just happened. i'm so confused right now.
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On September 01 2013 02:19 ForTehDarkseid wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 02:10 AmuseD wrote:On September 01 2013 02:01 ForTehDarkseid wrote:On September 01 2013 01:58 AmuseD wrote:On September 01 2013 01:55 ForTehDarkseid wrote:On September 01 2013 01:45 AmuseD wrote: I hate to see that so much people are acting like ''omg sc2 is dead or dying''.
Get a grip on yourself and be realistic.
Yes old BW players are retiring from starcraft 2, I am at least happy that they gave it a try and decided to stop. So be it. Good luck to them in the future. Starcraft 2 will continue no matter what! You don't see (or don't want to see) the big picture in the background. What is there else to see? It already has been said that the starcraft 2 scene is over packed. Economic crisis is hitting every company. But still the starcraft 2 scene is not dying. If you can point me out what I overlooked that would be great  ESports aren't running on a money, they are running on a passion. I can shake your hand on that ofcourse. But doing something for A LIVING, then pasion won't feed and pay bills for you. I was talking in an economical perspective Do you think Mini or Movie, for example, were earning more when they were playing BW? I honestly doubt it was the deciding factor. I didn't said it has to be the deciding factor Just getting paid so you can just relax and enjoy a normal life with a passion for BW? And since you stay on that passion factor. Again : ONLY PASSION doesn't bring the food to the table
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On September 01 2013 02:44 AmuseD wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 02:19 ForTehDarkseid wrote:On September 01 2013 02:10 AmuseD wrote:On September 01 2013 02:01 ForTehDarkseid wrote:On September 01 2013 01:58 AmuseD wrote:On September 01 2013 01:55 ForTehDarkseid wrote:On September 01 2013 01:45 AmuseD wrote: I hate to see that so much people are acting like ''omg sc2 is dead or dying''.
Get a grip on yourself and be realistic.
Yes old BW players are retiring from starcraft 2, I am at least happy that they gave it a try and decided to stop. So be it. Good luck to them in the future. Starcraft 2 will continue no matter what! You don't see (or don't want to see) the big picture in the background. What is there else to see? It already has been said that the starcraft 2 scene is over packed. Economic crisis is hitting every company. But still the starcraft 2 scene is not dying. If you can point me out what I overlooked that would be great  ESports aren't running on a money, they are running on a passion. I can shake your hand on that ofcourse. But doing something for A LIVING, then pasion won't feed and pay bills for you. I was talking in an economical perspective Do you think Mini or Movie, for example, were earning more when they were playing BW? I honestly doubt it was the deciding factor. I didn't said it has to be the deciding factor Just getting paid so you can just relax and enjoy a normal life with a passion for BW? And since you stay on that passion factor. Again : ONLY PASSION doesn't bring the food to the table
Plus, Mini might become somewhat a contender in SOSPA sanctioned league like Movie. You guys know that Movie is making a fortune streaming BW on Afreeca with donations flowing and ads revenues PLUS movie earned from leagues and such. All in all, Movie is DEFINITELY not starving and found a viable "career path" by continuing with the game he fell in love with. Win-win.
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Nooooooooooooo
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TLADT24920 Posts
Not surprising at all. We've heard rumours about this for the last while. Best of luck to the players!
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Norway25712 Posts
On September 01 2013 02:38 lichter wrote: I am surprised by the number of hyvaa fans tbh HYVAAAAAAA
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On September 01 2013 02:38 lichter wrote: I am surprised by the number of hyvaa fans tbh Well anti-fans like myself know better than to gloat in this thread.
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On September 01 2013 00:51 herMan wrote: It is only natural that many teams are folding as the interest for sc2 is nowhere near the peak it was in the brood war days. This and a huge influx of players and teams entering into an already established scene. This is indeed sad. And even worse - it would appear that the current state of SC2 has also harmed orther parts of Korea. SC2 is not only killing eSports but also Korean soccer and Korean corporations. GJ Blizzard, thanks for killing Korea.
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On September 01 2013 03:14 Kasaraki wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 02:38 lichter wrote: I am surprised by the number of hyvaa fans tbh Well anti-fans like myself know better than to gloat in this thread. I wish the gloating anti-SC2-fans had as much decency.
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On September 01 2013 00:51 herMan wrote: It is only natural that many teams are folding as the interest for sc2 is nowhere near the peak it was in the brood war days. This and a huge influx of players and teams entering into an already established scene.
Except that has nothing to do with why STX disbanded. Their long time sponsor pulled out for reasons having nothing to do with SC2. People really need to stop throwing this around.
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