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On September 01 2013 01:48 AmuseD wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 01:47 Arceus wrote:On September 01 2013 01:44 lichter wrote: I wonder how Blizz will react to this lol They cry every night for the mistake of handling Korean sc2 to GOM And Im blaming Blizzard for everything Why is that so bad? Kespa was still going on with BroodWar. Other solutions then just throwing it as a ''mistake of blizzard''? Because they had a feud with KeSPA which eventually resulted in exclusive sc2 right handled to GOM GOM couldnt do shit because sc2 wasnt on TV OGN processed to find another flagship program to replace BW The rest is history
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At least STX SouL went out with a swan song. Hope the best for everyone affected by the dissolution.
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On September 01 2013 01:55 revel8 wrote:Apollo tweeted yesterday that the Korean SC2 scene was crumbling. I wasn't sure what he meant. I guess he was referring to all these developments. Show nested quote + Shaun Clark @ApolloSC2 30 Aug
Sad to see the Korean scene crumbling.. Little expected though, its oversaturated for its eco system, will thin out but won't die
Yeah, Apollo is totally right with this. SC2 build up a scene that could support a certain amount of progamers economically. Than Kespa switched over, bringing more players in than viewers. Not all of the current Korean players can have enough exposure and now the amount of players has to shrink a little.
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On September 01 2013 01:56 juvenal wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 01:45 AmuseD wrote: I hate to see that so much people are acting like ''omg sc2 is dead or dying''.
Get a grip on yourself and be realistic.
Yes old BW players are retiring from starcraft 2, I am at least happy that they gave it a try and decided to stop. So be it. Good luck to them in the future. Starcraft 2 will continue no matter what! long live Warcraft III! I mean they still got a WCG spot right? Yes, final time this year  I am sure Blizz want kill wc3, as they did in scbw. probably because wcg is in china this year they got final time.
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On September 01 2013 01:58 AmuseD wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 01:55 ForTehDarkseid wrote:On September 01 2013 01:45 AmuseD wrote: I hate to see that so much people are acting like ''omg sc2 is dead or dying''.
Get a grip on yourself and be realistic.
Yes old BW players are retiring from starcraft 2, I am at least happy that they gave it a try and decided to stop. So be it. Good luck to them in the future. Starcraft 2 will continue no matter what! You don't see (or don't want to see) the big picture in the background. What is there else to see? It already has been said that the starcraft 2 scene is over packed. Economic crisis is hitting every company. But still the starcraft 2 scene is not dying. If you can point me out what I overlooked that would be great  ESports aren't running on a money, they are running on a passion. I remember almost everybody, who was in love with BW, hated LoL (we had good reasons then) when OGN just started promoting it. Today I watched the finals and it became transparent to me, no matter what I (or anyone else) think about the game or Riot's policy, Koreans like it, they feel passionate about it, they are proud of it. And it's a joy to be spectator of.
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really sucks... They won pro league too.
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Dear and Trap should find a team no problem. But its ridiculous from STX because they just won the ProLeague and their CEO said they would continue to support them.
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On September 01 2013 02:02 Amaril wrote: Dear and Trap should find a team no problem. But its ridiculous from STX because they just won the ProLeague and their CEO said they would continue to support them.
well CEO wanted to, their creditors didn't. That's the world of business when your company is 9 billion USD in debt...
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On September 01 2013 02:00 Arceus wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 01:48 AmuseD wrote:On September 01 2013 01:47 Arceus wrote:On September 01 2013 01:44 lichter wrote: I wonder how Blizz will react to this lol They cry every night for the mistake of handling Korean sc2 to GOM And Im blaming Blizzard for everything Why is that so bad? Kespa was still going on with BroodWar. Other solutions then just throwing it as a ''mistake of blizzard''? Because they had a feud with KeSPA which eventually resulted in exclusive sc2 right handled to GOM GOM couldnt do shit because sc2 wasnt on TV OGN processed to find another flagship program to replace BW The rest is history
I doubt people will appreciate this kind of talk, but it really should be considered that not having SC2 on TV with Kespa/OGN backing hurt it a lot in the local market.
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On September 01 2013 02:01 ForTehDarkseid wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 01:58 AmuseD wrote:On September 01 2013 01:55 ForTehDarkseid wrote:On September 01 2013 01:45 AmuseD wrote: I hate to see that so much people are acting like ''omg sc2 is dead or dying''.
Get a grip on yourself and be realistic.
Yes old BW players are retiring from starcraft 2, I am at least happy that they gave it a try and decided to stop. So be it. Good luck to them in the future. Starcraft 2 will continue no matter what! You don't see (or don't want to see) the big picture in the background. What is there else to see? It already has been said that the starcraft 2 scene is over packed. Economic crisis is hitting every company. But still the starcraft 2 scene is not dying. If you can point me out what I overlooked that would be great  ESports aren't running on a money, they are running on a passion. From company perspective yes maybe. definitely not from players perspective. Many players (formerly wc3/scbw) dont like to play sc2, but they very like to attend tournaments (best example: idra). scbw and wc3 were/are vrey different to sc2.
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Next SC2 Proleague to be the last. What comes after?
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On September 01 2013 02:09 L0L wrote: Next SC2 Proleague to be the last. What comes after?
BW Proleague obv.
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I think people are forgetting that the Korean scene basically doubled in size when Kespa switched without a proportional increase in interest.
Basically it will be back to pre-KespaSC2 days, maybe slightly better.
I'm fine with that.
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On September 01 2013 02:01 ForTehDarkseid wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 01:58 AmuseD wrote:On September 01 2013 01:55 ForTehDarkseid wrote:On September 01 2013 01:45 AmuseD wrote: I hate to see that so much people are acting like ''omg sc2 is dead or dying''.
Get a grip on yourself and be realistic.
Yes old BW players are retiring from starcraft 2, I am at least happy that they gave it a try and decided to stop. So be it. Good luck to them in the future. Starcraft 2 will continue no matter what! You don't see (or don't want to see) the big picture in the background. What is there else to see? It already has been said that the starcraft 2 scene is over packed. Economic crisis is hitting every company. But still the starcraft 2 scene is not dying. If you can point me out what I overlooked that would be great  ESports aren't running on a money, they are running on a passion.
I can shake your hand on that ofcourse. But doing something for A LIVING, then pasion won't feed and pay bills for you. I was talking in an economical perspective
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On September 01 2013 02:10 Xiphos wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 02:09 L0L wrote: Next SC2 Proleague to be the last. What comes after? BW Proleague obv.
no, LoL proleague and LoL B-team Proleague. :p
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Well with all this shit I don't see JD going back to JinAir (fine by me)
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On September 01 2013 02:10 lichter wrote: I think people are forgetting that the Korean scene basically doubled in size when Kespa switched without a proportional increase in interest.
Basically it will be back to pre-KespaSC2 days, maybe slightly better.
I'm fine with that. Me too, but I hope MVP doesn't have to be a victim of that switch.
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On September 01 2013 02:11 Spec wrote: Damn the creditors. Better email the sponsors.
This is really sad. I'm going to miss STX. But really, what was a shipping giant doing in E-Sports? Very odd place to advertise, unless BW was really huge in Korea and the shipping barons there watch E-Sports.
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I read Hwangsin as Hwasin for a second and I was like THE RED SNIPER?! Then I remembered he was banned and checked again
Seemed like SC2 was getting back on its feet with HotS but now it really looks like (in Korea) its basically a dead game...
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