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juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
August 31 2013 16:52 GMT
#201
Patch 666:
- Siege tank damaged increased.
- SC2 removed from the scene.

(teh pun: they made immortals immune to warhound's second attack the same patch it was fucking removed, I rofled albeit the day was sad)
Michael Probu
elmoDD
Profile Joined March 2013
89 Posts
August 31 2013 16:52 GMT
#202
oh no don't retire hyvaa!
CuteZergling
Profile Joined November 2011
641 Posts
August 31 2013 16:53 GMT
#203
On September 01 2013 01:50 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
김동원 ‏@AxRyung 10m

@LiquidTaeJa Good bye Ryung


@Totalbiscuit
Ryung is not retiring, he is a gigantic troll.
Team owner of team QTLing
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6644 Posts
August 31 2013 16:53 GMT
#204
On September 01 2013 01:48 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2013 01:42 juicyjames wrote:
https://twitter.com/supernovamaniac is currently posting a lot of rumors. Here's a summary.
  • RUMOR: Bisu to retire, Hydra to (possibly) retire
  • RUMOR: EffOrt, RorO, and Stork not going to retire
  • RUMOR: Hyvaa not retired, just "jobless"?
  • RUMOR: KeSPA downsizing SC2 teams to 5-6 people / Reporter: Organizations will focus on LoL teams
  • RUMOR: IM leaves eSF, KeSPA trying to get LG to sponsor IM
  • RUMOR: MVP dissolves, SC2 team disbanded, LoL squad to Samsung KHAN
  • RUMOR: Prime leaves eSF, hopes KeSPA can help find a sponsor

Kespa reducing team size makes me sad for them.

I really... REALLLYYY hate to say it... but Sc2 dying(In Korea)??

Seriously though what in the literal fuck... Kespa teams downsizing, Teams disbanding all over the place tons of players retiring etc. It looks Sc2 is hitting a pretty big rough patch in Korea right now, seems like NA and EU are still doing as they always have.

Could stuff like this close the gap between Foreigners and Koreans down the road? with the NA and EU scene doing decently and the KR scene seemingly losing support and players the game might actually become more global and end up coming out stronger overall perhaps?

Obviously all just random speculation I can't even really say the Sc2 scene in Korea is hurting at all from this as a fact, just seems that way.
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
nadafanboy42
Profile Joined August 2009
Netherlands209 Posts
August 31 2013 16:54 GMT
#205
On September 01 2013 01:43 Dingodile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2013 01:32 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
fuck
This ridiculous ammount of retiring never happened in BW.


As expected in sc2, very true that this amount of retiring never happened in bw and in wc3.

It had already started in BW before the SC2 switch. MBCgame being dissolved (basically 50% of all BW broadcast ending almost overnight). Estro, Hwaseung, WeMade teams were all dissolved before the switch. The switch may have exacerbated the situation but BW was hardly in its prime when it happened.
NaDa/Jaedong/Liquid-Fanboy
ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
August 31 2013 16:54 GMT
#206
what's with proleague? O_o
Bisu,Best,Stork,Jangbi and Flash, Fantasy, Leta, Light and Jaedong, Hydra, Zero, Soulkey assemble in ACE now!
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
August 31 2013 16:55 GMT
#207
Apollo tweeted yesterday that the Korean SC2 scene was crumbling. I wasn't sure what he meant. I guess he was referring to all these developments.

Shaun Clark ‏@ApolloSC2 30 Aug

Sad to see the Korean scene crumbling.. Little expected though, its oversaturated for its eco system, will thin out but won't die
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
August 31 2013 16:55 GMT
#208
On September 01 2013 01:45 AmuseD wrote:
I hate to see that so much people are acting like ''omg sc2 is dead or dying''.

Get a grip on yourself and be realistic.

Yes old BW players are retiring from starcraft 2, I am at least happy that they gave it a try and decided to stop. So be it. Good luck to them in the future. Starcraft 2 will continue no matter what!

You don't see (or don't want to see) the big picture in the background.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
August 31 2013 16:56 GMT
#209
On September 01 2013 01:45 AmuseD wrote:
I hate to see that so much people are acting like ''omg sc2 is dead or dying''.

Get a grip on yourself and be realistic.

Yes old BW players are retiring from starcraft 2, I am at least happy that they gave it a try and decided to stop. So be it. Good luck to them in the future. Starcraft 2 will continue no matter what!

long live Warcraft III! I mean they still got a WCG spot right?
Michael Probu
SamirDuran
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines894 Posts
August 31 2013 16:57 GMT
#210
On September 01 2013 01:53 CuteZergling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2013 01:50 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
김동원 ‏@AxRyung 10m

@LiquidTaeJa Good bye Ryung


@Totalbiscuit
Ryung is not retiring, he is a gigantic troll.


this made me laugh.
Don't practice until you can get it right, practice until you can't get it wrong.
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6644 Posts
August 31 2013 16:58 GMT
#211
On September 01 2013 01:56 juvenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2013 01:45 AmuseD wrote:
I hate to see that so much people are acting like ''omg sc2 is dead or dying''.

Get a grip on yourself and be realistic.

Yes old BW players are retiring from starcraft 2, I am at least happy that they gave it a try and decided to stop. So be it. Good luck to them in the future. Starcraft 2 will continue no matter what!

long live Warcraft III! I mean they still got a WCG spot right?

Yupp right up there in WCG right next to mobile phone games ^^
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
AmuseD
Profile Joined July 2011
Netherlands133 Posts
August 31 2013 16:58 GMT
#212
On September 01 2013 01:55 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2013 01:45 AmuseD wrote:
I hate to see that so much people are acting like ''omg sc2 is dead or dying''.

Get a grip on yourself and be realistic.

Yes old BW players are retiring from starcraft 2, I am at least happy that they gave it a try and decided to stop. So be it. Good luck to them in the future. Starcraft 2 will continue no matter what!

You don't see (or don't want to see) the big picture in the background.


What is there else to see? It already has been said that the starcraft 2 scene is over packed. Economic crisis is hitting every company. But still the starcraft 2 scene is not dying.
If you can point me out what I overlooked that would be great
Supah ToHLL
L0L
Profile Joined August 2012
United States176 Posts
August 31 2013 16:58 GMT
#213
All SC2 teams disband
Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
August 31 2013 16:58 GMT
#214
On September 01 2013 01:53 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2013 01:48 BisuDagger wrote:
On September 01 2013 01:42 juicyjames wrote:
https://twitter.com/supernovamaniac is currently posting a lot of rumors. Here's a summary.
  • RUMOR: Bisu to retire, Hydra to (possibly) retire
  • RUMOR: EffOrt, RorO, and Stork not going to retire
  • RUMOR: Hyvaa not retired, just "jobless"?
  • RUMOR: KeSPA downsizing SC2 teams to 5-6 people / Reporter: Organizations will focus on LoL teams
  • RUMOR: IM leaves eSF, KeSPA trying to get LG to sponsor IM
  • RUMOR: MVP dissolves, SC2 team disbanded, LoL squad to Samsung KHAN
  • RUMOR: Prime leaves eSF, hopes KeSPA can help find a sponsor

Kespa reducing team size makes me sad for them.

I really... REALLLYYY hate to say it... but Sc2 dying(In Korea)??.


Well that's kinda obvious. It's not really dying and dare I say it will never be trully dead - it will just be at the semi-pro level just like before Kespa switched - better then BW is atm with Sospa only, but much worse then LoL for example. SC2 is gonna be Special Forces to LoL's BW.

No money, no stability, no real business. Kespa tried to make business out of it, they were unable to, they have to shrink (shrink SC2, get LoL bigger). It makes sense from business perspective.

The only thing I wish for is, that Blizz will let Kespa coaches and officials talk into their design decision for multiplayer part of LotV, so they make the game better to watch together and people will decide to come back...
JangBi forever <3 || Classic! herO! Rain! Zest! | Rogue! Hydra! Solar! | Fantasy! Cure! Reality! Sorry! Journey!
mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
August 31 2013 16:58 GMT
#215
to be fair, is half of the Korean teams disband, and half of the Korean pros retire, SC2 would still be in good shape in Korea. There's just way too many pro teams and pros. It is not sustainable.
mousesports, Team Acer, Fnatic!
Sirrush
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands165 Posts
August 31 2013 16:58 GMT
#216
Way to go back on your word, STX.
Words.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
August 31 2013 16:58 GMT
#217
On September 01 2013 01:54 nadafanboy42 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2013 01:43 Dingodile wrote:
On September 01 2013 01:32 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
fuck
This ridiculous ammount of retiring never happened in BW.


As expected in sc2, very true that this amount of retiring never happened in bw and in wc3.

It had already started in BW before the SC2 switch. MBCgame being dissolved (basically 50% of all BW broadcast ending almost overnight). Estro, Hwaseung, WeMade teams were all dissolved before the switch. The switch may have exacerbated the situation but BW was hardly in its prime when it happened.


ESTO + Hite = dead because of matchfixing

MBCGame = killed by Blizzard's lawsuit

WeMadeFox = personal financial problems as they got rid of their WC3 team + Counter Strike one

Hwaseung jumped the ship.

Just a a bit deds into the past.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
August 31 2013 16:59 GMT
#218
On September 01 2013 01:43 Dingodile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2013 01:32 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
fuck
This ridiculous ammount of retiring never happened in BW.


As expected in sc2, very true that this amount of retiring never happened in bw and in wc3.

In War3, Korea hit a tough spot with the map scandal. There were a few good players retiring around then, but after that if I recall correctly the Korean scene was basically a bunch of Koreans on foreign teams due to War3's popularity abroad. If all of this continues this way in SC2 all the way down the line I could see something similar happening.
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3683 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-31 17:00:43
August 31 2013 16:59 GMT
#219
On September 01 2013 01:55 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2013 01:45 AmuseD wrote:
I hate to see that so much people are acting like ''omg sc2 is dead or dying''.

Get a grip on yourself and be realistic.

Yes old BW players are retiring from starcraft 2, I am at least happy that they gave it a try and decided to stop. So be it. Good luck to them in the future. Starcraft 2 will continue no matter what!

You don't see (or don't want to see) the big picture in the background.


And you misinterpretate it. Will it get as back as bw in 06/07 ? Nope, but lol may not either, hell even bw was somewhat far away from that towards the end. BW scene already shrank to 7 teams + 8th team and lost mbc, what made anyone think star 2 could support 7 kespa teams + 6 esf teams + foreign teams? This was going to happen no matter what and it really shouldn't be such a big shock.
azurespace
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)39 Posts
August 31 2013 16:59 GMT
#220
good news : hyvaa is not retiring.

One of SouL coaching staff, Choi Won Suk refuted the news.
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