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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On August 13 2013 04:57 TheDwf wrote: What?? And what exactly Terran is supposed to build lategame vs Protoss? Tanks? Thors? Battlecruisers?... Ghost/viking. Same as in WoL. | ||
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Pseudorandom
United States120 Posts
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renaissanceMAN
United States1840 Posts
On August 13 2013 05:01 Waxangel wrote: #yearofgoody When Goody and Hasuobs meet in a game, who wins? Answer: Grubby. | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On August 13 2013 04:45 Vindicare605 wrote: They want to improve mech yet they're buffing the hard counter Zerg anti-Mech tool at the same time. Awesome logic. What the Viper needs is a rework to Blinding Cloud that makes it better vs Bio and weaker vs Mech. The Unit itself right now is far too narrow focused. It's a borderline overpowered unit vs Mech compositions and completely useless vs Bio/Mine. Changing what energy it starts with changes none of that. agree with bolded. I disagree on blinding cloud. I think it's plenty powerful against bio(please blizzard, change its color, so hurtful on the eyes ><) but they need to do something about the viper if they plan to make viable. It's just too hard countered by the abduct ability. Maybe nerf the range of abduct but I dunno how they'll balance that. Overall, was hoping they would change more in a patch but I guess better they buff not nerf and that it's done in steps. | ||
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bludragen88
United States527 Posts
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
I like the mech buff though. | ||
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Reborn8u
United States1761 Posts
Zerg just has the mobility, map vision, and tech switching to deal with mech very easily. As long as they are not surprised by a mech timing, they can easily deal with it. If they want to bring back mech, the first thing they need to do is give tanks back their massive base dmg, and get rid of the dmg bonus to specific unit classes. Thors need to be much more effective at anti air. Whether by increasing thier splash aoe, or increasing the rate of fire. Mech is strongest when maxed, which takes until late game. Broodlords, ultras, tempests and colossus destroy it. Scouting is so much easier now that unless your opponent is very incompetent you will never surprise them with a mech timing. If that timing fails for whatever reason, you are so screwed. | ||
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Radel
United States115 Posts
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Redrot
United States446 Posts
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Cricketer12
United States13991 Posts
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Ctesias
4595 Posts
I think the mech change could be good. I am unsure of the viper change. They need SOMETHING, but I'm not sure this is the right way to go. Overall I like these changes. | ||
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AnomalySC2
United States2073 Posts
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Radel
United States115 Posts
On August 13 2013 05:03 bludragen88 wrote: I'm going to laugh when some protoss loads up HT at the viper timing and instead of storm drops goes for feedback drops as they hatch out of the eggs. Would be way more of a pimpest play than overseer contaminate on pathogen glands before infestors pop. Agreed. I feel like there will be some boss HT plays vs Vipers now | ||
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sns3rsam
United States138 Posts
On August 13 2013 05:03 bludragen88 wrote: I'm going to laugh when some protoss loads up HT at the viper timing and instead of storm drops goes for feedback drops as they hatch out of the eggs. Would be way more of a pimpest play than overseer contaminate on pathogen glands before infestors pop. Hahaha exactly my thought! Definitely would be sick to watch as the protoss has to have his timings down! | ||
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c0ldfusion
United States8293 Posts
On August 13 2013 05:03 bludragen88 wrote: Would be way more of a pimpest play than overseer contaminate on pathogen glands before infestors pop. Don't think I've ever seen that in a game before, but that sounds really sick. | ||
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URLateral
275 Posts
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Msr
Korea (South)495 Posts
#2-3 are a little odd, vipers have full energy 10 seconds after spawning anyway so it will be interesting to see in test | ||
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sns3rsam
United States138 Posts
On August 13 2013 05:04 Redrot wrote: I think all of those are quite reasonable (being a zerg), although the viper upgrade feels a bit random, and just makes mech weaker. If anything, I think that vipers should be given an attack (albiet weak) due to the fact that they do not deal any damage, and other spellcasters which do not deal damage via spells (i.e. sentries) get attacks. Hmmm yea that might be interesting! If anything, make it an anti air attack only kinda like what it was in the campaign. | ||
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Cyanocyst
2222 Posts
On August 13 2013 04:26 Plansix wrote: Blizzard's plans: Buff everything. I endorse this plan. Exactly tho, i feel that Buffing things to balance is better than Nerfing to balance, as was done in WOL. That's what made it so preferable to play defensively. | ||
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c0ldfusion
United States8293 Posts
On August 13 2013 05:04 AnomalySC2 wrote: Heh, if they think mech is weak then making vipers spawn with full energy certainly isn't going to help the situation any. Blinding Cloud > Siege Tanks. Abduct > Thors. They already nerfed Hell Bats. lol I predict the current TvZ (and ZvT) builds to be unperturbed by these purposed balance changes | ||
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