EPTcan i has thought process ples
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renaissanceMAN
United States1840 Posts
can i has thought process ples | ||
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KawaiiRice
United States2914 Posts
how in the world in what planet was detection the problem? did they ask a z pro and they were like "WE REALLY NEED OVERSEER SPEED" ?? | ||
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TimKim0713
Korea (South)221 Posts
They are meant to counter mech. Thats why all the new zerg units are going away in TvZ and We are only watching Wings of Liberty TvZ with "Widow Mine" and more often drops and harrassments. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 13 2013 04:30 renaissanceMAN wrote: That's all fine and dandy, but Vipers will still be fucking amazing the instant they hatch. No other unit starts will full energy, I don't understand they're thinking. That’s valid, but they need to go the Dota 2 route of balance. “Lets make it totally fucked up and then pull it back from there. Why? Because people will use it if its fucking awesome and that’s what we want.” When you are measuring how awesome you want a unit to be, you have to start with the unit at full awesome and pull it back. Plus: I want to see the game where 5 of those fuckers hatch and get slapped down with feedbacks instantly. That shit would be dope at fuck. | ||
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SolidMoose
United States1240 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 13 2013 04:36 KawaiiRice wrote: i dont understand how overseer speed is supposed to help z keep up with 3 base bio rally when the biggest issue is the mechanical skill required/higher difficulty of controlling from z than t ? how in the world in what planet was detection the problem? did they ask a z pro and they were like "WE REALLY NEED OVERSEER SPEED" ?? Well lets be fair, Blizzard has said when they ask pro players about balancing the game, they mostly just want the other races nerfed so they can win. That’s not very helpful feedback. | ||
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Sissors
1395 Posts
On August 13 2013 04:37 Plansix wrote: That’s valid, but they need to go the Dota 2 route of balance. “Lets make it totally fucked up and then pull it back from there. Why? Because people will use it if its fucking awesome and that’s what we want.” When you are measuring how awesome you want a unit to be, you have to start with the unit at full awesome and pull it back. Plus: I want to see the game where 5 of those fuckers hatch and get slapped down with feedbacks instantly. That shit would be dope at fuck. Please give marines stim as default upgrade which doesn't take away health. Just of course for balance purposes. | ||
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renaissanceMAN
United States1840 Posts
On August 13 2013 04:40 Sissors wrote: Please give marines stim as default upgrade which doesn't take away health. Just of course for balance purposes. Yes please | ||
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Telenil
France484 Posts
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Silky
United States260 Posts
On August 13 2013 04:36 KawaiiRice wrote: i dont understand how overseer speed is supposed to help z keep up with 3 base bio rally when the biggest issue is the mechanical skill required/higher difficulty of controlling from z than t ? how in the world in what planet was detection the problem? did they ask a z pro and they were like "WE REALLY NEED OVERSEER SPEED" ?? I agree completely. There needs to be something else to deal with widow mines because the sheer amount of control involved is ridiculous for the zerg. I do like the viper buff, however, as it does help zerg out if certain situations, | ||
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Pirfiktshon
United States1072 Posts
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Holdenintherye
Canada1441 Posts
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Teoita
Italy12246 Posts
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Reborn8u
United States1761 Posts
I watch so many top protoss get picked apart for trying to hold 3rd bases on many maps that don't have "free" 3rd base. This has been an issue for so long with protoss, why is it stil so? Momma core is inadequate. As a terran player in hots, I feel like a 2 base all in should be an option, not forced and then protoss late game could be better balanced if they are able to reliably and consistently take a 3rd and hold it. I watch so many protoss die when taking a 3rd AFTER zerg has one or terran has a completed 3rd orbital. Protoss needs better turtle mechanics, I feel like toss is the turtle race for macro play, yet has vastly inferior options available to do so when compared to terran or zerg. TLDR I'm just not ready to say that zerg needs buffs, or terran needs buffs, and protoss should be ignored with how poor protoss is performing at the highest levels (ro4 and up in most major tourneys) | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 13 2013 04:40 Sissors wrote: Please give marines stim as default upgrade which doesn't take away health. Just of course for balance purposes. Can my zealots start with charge that works like zergling speed with a cool down? If so, I endorse your stim plan and part of my “Break everything because its awesome, platform.” | ||
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pmp10
3396 Posts
Too stubborn I guess. | ||
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renaissanceMAN
United States1840 Posts
On August 13 2013 04:42 Plansix wrote: Can my zealots start with charge that works like zergling speed with a cool down? If so, I endorse your stim plan and part of my “Break everything because its awesome, platform.” Fuck it, add hero units, Jim Raynor with that massive sniper rifle from the campaign that kills everything in a straight line across the map! | ||
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Cokefreak
Finland8095 Posts
On August 13 2013 04:26 Plansix wrote: Blizzard's plans: Buff everything. I endorse this plan. Yeah, much better than nerf everything. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16121 Posts
Awesome logic. What the Viper needs is a rework to Blinding Cloud that makes it better vs Bio and weaker vs Mech. The Unit itself right now is far too narrow focused. It's a borderline overpowered unit vs Mech compositions and completely useless vs Bio/Mine. Changing what energy it starts with changes none of that. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 13 2013 04:43 renaissanceMAN wrote: Fuck it, add hero units, Jim Raynor with that massive sniper rifle from the campaign that kills everything in a straight line across the map! Whoa whoa whoa, lets not get out of control here. No hero units in SC2. Though if I could get colossi to shoot in a straight line, that would be pretty awesome. | ||
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