EPTOn August 12 2013 06:06 BlackPanther wrote:
And I'm saying Blizzard shouldn't pay. IGN should.
And I'm saying Blizzard shouldn't pay. IGN should.
This is only in the case of IGN not paying, if IGN pays them of course Blizzard wouldn't have to.
IPL yet to pay out multiple top finishers from IPL5 - Pag…
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Dodgin
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This is only in the case of IGN not paying, if IGN pays them of course Blizzard wouldn't have to. | ||
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On August 12 2013 05:05 Kevin_Sorbo wrote: imo blizzard should just fork over the cash. what is it ? 75 ? 100k?? petty change to prevent your brand from being damaged like that... then turn around and sue IGN if its possible. this is not good publicity. Even if the responsability of paying the guys is IGN's, the tourney was ran with a blizz product. The moment they do that once the flood gates will be open and nobody will bother to pay players anymore since "Blizzard will take care of it eventually as long we don't pay". | ||
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BlackPanther
United States872 Posts
On August 12 2013 06:05 FabledIntegral wrote: The debt/money owed should have shown up on IPL's balance sheet as a liability when Blizzard bought IPL. Thus, Blizzard would be responsible for the debt. If IPL did not disclose the debt for whatever reason, which is a silly assumption, then it would be on IPL for fraud or misrepresentation. The question is whether or not IPL is a separate entity from IGN. From what I've read / know, IPL is a division within IGN. Blizzard picked up the employees and possibly bought their equipment after IPL's dissolution but that wouldn't make them responsible for debts incurred by IPL / IGN. | ||
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ACrow
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Kevin_Sorbo
Canada3217 Posts
But for the sake of the business, Blizzard should write checks now and get their lawyers on the issue. a few 10ks shouldnt be too much to hand out to try and escape the incoming/ongoing p.r. shitstorm. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
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chatuka
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Coil1
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rasnj
United States1959 Posts
On August 12 2013 06:06 JimmyJRaynor wrote: its a biased source trying to avoid paying prize winners. Of course they are going to make this kind of claim on their own web site. Surely they didn't plan the headline all the way back then to deal with this issue. All gaming news networks (PC gamer, gamespot, etc.) report similar headlines though that may be based on the IGN article. Blizzard themselves wrote: > New Assets Purchased for Online Content Initiatives, Apr 8, 2013 As an important next step in its ongoing efforts to provide world-class entertainment, Blizzard has purchased IGN Pro League technology and assets from IGN. ... Again I am not saying they are legally required to pay. They probably are not, but you can't argue that Blizzard effectively took over IPL. EDIT: And yes if IGN are responsible, then they should pay. However I feel Dongraegu or Leenock will have a hard time pressuring people at IGN, it would be much better if Blizzard (as a favor) helped in the talks with IGN. | ||
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BronzeKnee
United States5217 Posts
On August 12 2013 06:19 rasnj wrote: EDIT: And yes if IGN are responsible, then they should pay. However I feel Dongraegu or Leenock will have a hard time pressuring people at IGN, it would be much better if Blizzard (as a favor) helped in the talks with IGN. This is why the players need a union/kespa like organization. You actually think Blizzard will help? Blizzard exists to make money, not to mediate disputes. It isn't Blizzards fault if a tournament refuses to pay and went belly up. The problem exists with IGN. | ||
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ragz_gt
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On August 12 2013 06:19 rasnj wrote: Surely they didn't plan the headline all the way back then to deal with this issue. All gaming news networks (PC gamer, gamespot, etc.) report similar headlines though that may be based on the IGN article. Blizzard themselves wrote: Again I am not saying they are legally required to pay. They probably are not, but you can't argue that Blizzard effectively took over IPL. EDIT: And yes if IGN are responsible, then they should pay. However I feel Dongraegu or Leenock will have a hard time pressuring people at IGN, it would be much better if Blizzard (as a favor) helped in the talks with IGN. The title make it pretty clear no? Blizzard bought IPL's assets, but not their liabilities. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16700 Posts
On August 12 2013 06:19 rasnj wrote: Surely they didn't plan the headline all the way back then to deal with this issue. All gaming news networks (PC gamer, gamespot, etc.) report similar headlines though that may be based on the IGN article. Internal people at IPL were already deflecting requests from FXO, EG and other major teams. When ur organization is bleeding red ink by the bucket full you cover your bases and blur the lines as much as possible. there was this back and forth sniping with MLG.... they both tried to compete with each other. MLG paid instantly. IPL .. not so much. Sundance is probably laughing his ass off right now. | ||
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TRaFFiC
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tar
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Cinim
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dutchfriese
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On August 12 2013 06:25 TRaFFiC wrote: I find it hilarious how people are saying blizz should pay them. Just because they did something nice and picked up the IPL guys doesn't mean they have any responsibility. Blizz will be poor very fast if they pay for every tournament that fails to pay up. Hahaha... yeah it's kind of a slippery slope, but ultimately it's good for the game in this instance. | ||
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Valon
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NoGasfOu
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DwD
Sweden8621 Posts
On August 12 2013 06:11 Assirra wrote: The moment they do that once the flood gates will be open and nobody will bother to pay players anymore since "Blizzard will take care of it eventually as long we don't pay". What? That's not even close to being true, Blizzard kinda bought IPL in a way. That's why they should show good will to players. | ||
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OPL3SA2
United States378 Posts
On August 12 2013 03:54 DanLee wrote: ROFL, hey blizzard, you know some of the people you hired used to work at a company that hasn't paid out it's debts. You mind picking up the tab? edit: one of the stupidest conclusions I've ever seen someone jump to in my entire life. Man I have to use your logic with my lawyer. I just bought a piece of property and someone owed back taxes on the property. I only found out after I closed on the property. "ROFL hey Town of Marlborough Massachusetts, you know some of the people that used to own this property hasn't paid on their debts. You mind going after them and not me? edit: One of the stupidest people on the teamliquid.net forums. i've ever seen in my entire life /quote | ||
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