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On August 12 2013 07:09 simmeh wrote:
damn, i hope the players get paid
not many make great salaries, so tournament winnings are important to their income
on a somewhat related note, i know next mlg doesnt have sc2, but i've always heard players talking about how MLG is extremely diligent when it comes to paying players prize money, so good on them
yeah, some of us have been critical of MLG but perhaps unfairly critical. MLG does it right, that's for sure. this IPL stuff is super shady
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Wait why are we talking about this several months latter?
Shouldn't we have done something about this like a year ago?
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On August 12 2013 07:12 ScLight wrote:
Does anyone knows how this works legally?
Yeah, the players can prove what the advertised prize pool was, and that they finished in x position, so isn't there some legal procedure they can use to get the money? Granted that's kind of the team management's job rather than their own.
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On August 12 2013 07:14 thezanursic wrote:
Wait why are we talking about this several months latter?
Shouldn't we have done something about this like a year ago?
a year ago players still expected to get paid.
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teams need to get involved in stuff like this too. if they can't even help their players collect winnings, then what are they there for?
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also, people like slasher can actually be useful at times like this
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All the people talking about 'get a lawyer' do not understand how lawyers work.
1. Lawyers cost money.
2. Lawyers will usually take part of your winnings.
3. Legal proceedings take a long time.
4. Even if you win, it is very very very difficult to 'force' someone to pay you.
The best way for them to get their money is to public ask for it and embarrass ign or whoever it is that actually owes them money.
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Wow, I thought these places had the prize money sorted out before the event
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It's not only IPL, there is a lot of money that is yet to be paid from other tournaments and players bring that up from time to time but there is not much you can do
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On August 12 2013 07:33 Bigtony wrote:
All the people talking about 'get a lawyer' do not understand how lawyers work.
1. Lawyers cost money.
2. Lawyers will usually take part of your winnings.
3. Legal proceedings take a long time.
4. Even if you win, it is very very very difficult to 'force' someone to pay you.
The best way for them to get their money is to public ask for it and embarrass ign or whoever it is that actually owes them money.
Indeed. And if public condemnation doesn't work or isn't forceful enough, the players need outside help. They need the teams, ESF and/or KeSPA, and ideally Blizzard to be in their corner. A couple teenage Korean nationals trying to get money from an American corporation in an American court is a really tough go. This situation is total bullshit. We should be tweeting IGN at least.
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On August 12 2013 07:35 Nerchio wrote:
It's not only IPL, there is a lot of money that is yet to be paid from other tournaments and players bring that up from time to time but there is not much you can do
you can all make it as public as possible. there is no reason to keep quiet about this stuff. if the organizations are dicking over players, then the fans need to know about it. you don't have to put up with it.
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A lawyer costs at least $50 an hour. A corporate lawyer who is actually capable of getting things done in a situation like this would probably run $150-200 an hour. This could be anywhere from 2 hours for phone calls to 500 hours if it goes to court. Basically everything depends on the contracts the players signed (if they even did) which guaranteed the prize money by X time. If the players don't have it in writing then the cases will be very difficult to win.
The best way to get results might be for Kespa/ESF to boycott IGN events until their players get paid.
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According to moonglade the WCS season 1 prize money hasnt been paid either.
Andrew Pender @mOOnGLaDeau 50m
Really over waiting for tournament money never knowing when I'll be paid next. Can't live like this #WCSseason1
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On August 12 2013 07:44 BrieFanFiction wrote:The best way to get results might be for Kespa/ESF to boycott IGN events until their players get paid.
which would be well and good if there were any IGN events. but their aren't. so it's going to be a bitch. blizzard needs to be a part of it.
...but then again, if Blizzard themselves haven't even bothered to pay out for WCS yet, then who the fuck knows.
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I personally just sent an email to the sales director at IGN to let them know I will no longer use their web pages until they payout the prize money for IPL 5. I hope all of you will join me in boycotting their website until this is resolved.
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As far as who is responsible for the payout, legally I think it depends on a couple things that we don't know...did the players sign some sort of contract/agreement upon entering the tournament. Either way, what a shitty way to behave on IPL/IGN's part...Hopefully these players get their money.
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It's a surprise SC ever took off with all these shady companies. Just never watch another tourney of there's again and if it comes to a last resort, you're gonna have to sue.
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On August 12 2013 07:50 BlazinHot wrote:
I personally just sent an email to the sales director at IGN to let them know I will no longer use their web pages until they payout the prize money for IPL 5. I hope all of you will join me in boycotting their website until this is resolved.
send them a tweet too. it's more public.
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