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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
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Xorphene
United Kingdom492 Posts
On August 12 2013 10:15 Doodsmack wrote: I would not hesitate to sue whoever owes, if I was a US player who was owed money. Of course you wouldn't, because you would have the thousands of dollars it would take to open litigation, right ? | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On August 12 2013 10:17 Xorphene wrote: Of course you wouldn't, because you would have the thousands of dollars it would take to open litigation, right ? "A Small Claims may be filed in the Las Vegas Justice Court only if: Small Claims cases excluded from mediation will be set for a hearing before a Small Claims Referee once the Defendant(s) have filed Answer. This hearing date will be scheduled within 45 days of the Answer. The claim is for money only and does not exceed $7,500. If the claim is more than $7,500, you may wish to contact an attorney. If your claim is for more than $7,500, you cannot divide the claim by filing two or more separate actions. You may, however, decide not to pursue any amount over $7,500, and limit your possible recovery to a maximum of $7,500. Before filing a Small Claims Complaint, the plaintiff must do the following: Send a demand letter, with return receipt requested, to the Defendant. The demand letter must instruct the Defendant to pay the amount due within 10 days of the date that the letter is sent, or the PLAINTIFF will file a Small Claims case against the Defendant. Wait at least 10 days from the date the demand letter is sent before filing a Small Claims case against the Defendant. Include a copy of the demand letter along with the signed return receipt (as proof of mailing) with the Small Claims Complaint when the Small Claims case is filed against the Defendant. You are 18 years old or older." http://www.clarkcountycourts.us/lvjc/court-forms.html#small-claims gl, SC2 progamers | ||
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shin_toss
Philippines2589 Posts
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TRaFFiC
Canada1448 Posts
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Eloot
United States13 Posts
On August 12 2013 11:19 TRaFFiC wrote: I see a lot of talk here. Imagine my surprise when I searched "#payup" on twitter and only 1 tweet. Let's blow up their twitter. Let's not. Team owners/management are just as much to blame for this. They need to be going through the proper channels (legal if necessary) to make sure their players are paid. Players and fans shouldn't be spamming Twitter accounts to find their winnings. This is embarrassing from so many angles. | ||
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Prophanity
United States165 Posts
Let's not. Team owners/management are just as much to blame for this. They need to be going through the proper channels (legal if necessary) to make sure their players are paid. Players and fans shouldn't be spamming Twitter accounts to find their winnings. This is embarrassing from so many angles. Team owners and management are responsible for the poor fiscal management of a company they don't own? It's presumptuous on anyone's part to assume the individuals you speak of aren't following the proper channels. The fact that fans are so involved in the community and have so much care and concern as to seek restitution for the players and teams of a game they love is not only not embarrassing on any measure but in fact speaks to the tight-knit nature and level of attachment this community has. Any time regular people see injustice in a giant company screwing individuals out of what they are owed and what actually amounts to little more than petty cash for a company, I am pleased. I refute thee. | ||
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Aveng3r
United States2411 Posts
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ooDi
Canada170 Posts
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zhurai
United States5660 Posts
On August 12 2013 11:30 Eloot wrote: Let's not. Team owners/management are just as much to blame for this. They need to be going through the proper channels (legal if necessary) to make sure their players are paid. Players and fans shouldn't be spamming Twitter accounts to find their winnings. This is embarrassing from so many angles. this post is so wrong on so many angles | ||
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JackDragon
525 Posts
Why is it wrong? I think he have a point. | ||
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below66
United States1761 Posts
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ScLight
United States26 Posts
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Xorphene
United Kingdom492 Posts
On August 12 2013 12:00 ScLight wrote: I remember my parents had a lawsuit with an employee who illegally sold their bus and tried to get away with the money. Took over a year to resolve and the legal fee was more than how much the bus was worth. The court system is so retarded and there's countless ways and loopholes to drag it longer than it needs to be. I think many esports organization just abuses this, because the legal fee for the prize money and time is not worth it to the players. Also, even if you are successful in the court system there are still no guarantees you will ever see your money. | ||
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Aveng3r
United States2411 Posts
On August 12 2013 11:59 below66 wrote: It's wrong because you shouldn't have to waste money to get your due money. These companies are noticing SC2 wasn't profitable under their system and they act shady once they have to lose more money. How is anything he said a waste of money? | ||
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JackDragon
525 Posts
On August 12 2013 11:59 below66 wrote: It's wrong because you shouldn't have to waste money to get your due money. These companies are noticing SC2 wasn't profitable under their system and they act shady once they have to lose more money. But that is not what he said though. He said that teams should help the players get paid, sure with legal means if needed, but that does not necessarily mean "waste money to get your due money". | ||
Chill
Calgary26003 Posts
1. Choose who to contact carefully. Going to the CEO of IGN is obviously too high, but going to the support email won't help either. You need to cut through the get direct links to someone who can help you. Typically this is a VP with a made up title. So, not the VP of marketing, since he will be too busy doing real work - someone like the VP of Esports, or equivalent, should be your target. 1a. I started CCing PR personnel when I wasn't getting paid. They didn't help until step 4. 2. Make your claim simple and clear. This means: Prove who you are without question. Show screenshots or link to past websites showing the prize money. Link to results showing where you finished and/or post pictures of you finishing in that place. Provide paypal emails and mailing addresses upfront. Do not provide banking details, but tell then you can provide them if need be. 3. Be annoying. "I will contact you in 48 hours if I don't hear back." Then "I will contact you in 24 hours if I don't hear back." At the end of my journey I was emailing three people daily. 4, Threaten. This is where 1a pays off. Tell them this timeline is unacceptable and you will be posting all correspondence online to TL and Reddit for anyone to read. Begin talks with lawyers and get them to send a letter. You can get this done fairly cheaply. The PR person will likely get involved at this point. At least, that's what I had to do when I was having these troubles (never did get a lawyer involved). Took 8 months and they had only a few days left to pay me before I was going to post everything to TL. Finally I did get paid. GL~ | ||
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Srontgorrth
United States204 Posts
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vol_
Australia1608 Posts
I went with #killingesports | ||
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Trumpet
United States1936 Posts
On August 12 2013 12:25 Chill wrote: At least, that's what I had to do when I was having these troubles (never did get a lawyer involved). Took 8 months and they had only a few days left to pay me before I was going to post everything to TL. Finally I did get paid. GL~ Wow. 8 months. Sounds like getting paid from a tournament is harder than winning one. | ||
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