• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 20:50
CEST 02:50
KST 09:50
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments2[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt2: Turbulence10Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon10[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent10Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview12
Community News
StarCraft II 5.0.15 PTR Patch Notes166BSL 2025 Warsaw LAN + Legends Showmatch2Weekly Cups (Sept 8-14): herO & MaxPax split cups4WardiTV TL Team Map Contest #5 Tournaments1SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia8
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft II 5.0.15 PTR Patch Notes SC4ALL: A North American StarCraft LAN Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon Why Storm Should NOT Be Nerfed – A Core Part of Pr
Tourneys
RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 19 Stellar Fest KSL Week 80 StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly)
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 491 Night Drive Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense Mutation # 488 What Goes Around
Brood War
General
Starcraft: Destruction expansion pack? ASL ro8 Upper Bracket HYPE VIDEO StarCraft - Stratospace. Very rare expansion pack StarCraft Stellar Forces had bad maps BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro16 Group D SC4ALL $1,500 Open Bracket LAN BSL 2025 Warsaw LAN + Legends Showmatch [ASL20] Ro16 Group C
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Borderlands 3 General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
The Big Programming Thread US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s)
TL Community
BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Too Many LANs? Tournament Ov…
TrAiDoS
i'm really bored guys
Peanutsc
I <=> 9
KrillinFromwales
A very expensive lesson on ma…
Garnet
hello world
radishsoup
Lemme tell you a thing o…
JoinTheRain
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1878 users

July Winrates! - Page 2

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 9 10 11 Next All
shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
August 01 2013 02:38 GMT
#21
On August 01 2013 10:08 reps)squishy wrote:
Mothership core needs minor nerf so zerg can counter attack in early game. Terran has a unit for everything. Hydra really needs a buff.


lol, this is just for July. Msc already moves too slow, and gaining 100 energy for a cannon is already slow too.
AKMU / IU
Phanekim
Profile Joined April 2003
United States777 Posts
August 01 2013 02:46 GMT
#22
I know there's small sample, but this poster thinks zerg are a little UP.
i like cheese
MattD
Profile Joined March 2013
United Kingdom83 Posts
August 01 2013 02:48 GMT
#23
On August 01 2013 11:38 shin_toss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 10:08 reps)squishy wrote:
Mothership core needs minor nerf so zerg can counter attack in early game. Terran has a unit for everything. Hydra really needs a buff.


lol, this is just for July. Msc already moves too slow, and gaining 100 energy for a cannon is already slow too.


I hope thats some sort of sick joke
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
August 01 2013 03:11 GMT
#24
On August 01 2013 11:38 shin_toss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 10:08 reps)squishy wrote:
Mothership core needs minor nerf so zerg can counter attack in early game. Terran has a unit for everything. Hydra really needs a buff.


lol, this is just for July. Msc already moves too slow, and gaining 100 energy for a cannon is already slow too.


You make it sound like it's underpowered lol.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
August 01 2013 03:14 GMT
#25
On August 01 2013 11:38 shin_toss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 10:08 reps)squishy wrote:
Mothership core needs minor nerf so zerg can counter attack in early game. Terran has a unit for everything. Hydra really needs a buff.


lol, this is just for July. Msc already moves too slow, and gaining 100 energy for a cannon is already slow too.

Yea they should spawn with full energy, the speed of phoenix and have collosi lazors.
gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
August 01 2013 03:15 GMT
#26
On August 01 2013 12:14 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 11:38 shin_toss wrote:
On August 01 2013 10:08 reps)squishy wrote:
Mothership core needs minor nerf so zerg can counter attack in early game. Terran has a unit for everything. Hydra really needs a buff.


lol, this is just for July. Msc already moves too slow, and gaining 100 energy for a cannon is already slow too.

Yea they should spawn with full energy, the speed of phoenix and have collosi lazors.

also need the hp of a real mothership
I am a dirty Protoss bullshit abuser
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3347 Posts
August 01 2013 03:31 GMT
#27
Ouch@Korean TvZ.
Told you we should have asked for nerfs when we still had a say.
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
August 01 2013 03:34 GMT
#28
On August 01 2013 12:15 gobbledydook wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 12:14 Assirra wrote:
On August 01 2013 11:38 shin_toss wrote:
On August 01 2013 10:08 reps)squishy wrote:
Mothership core needs minor nerf so zerg can counter attack in early game. Terran has a unit for everything. Hydra really needs a buff.


lol, this is just for July. Msc already moves too slow, and gaining 100 energy for a cannon is already slow too.

Yea they should spawn with full energy, the speed of phoenix and have collosi lazors.

also need the hp of a real mothership

& cloaking field
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
August 01 2013 03:36 GMT
#29
On August 01 2013 12:31 pmp10 wrote:
Ouch@Korean TvZ.
Told you we should have asked for nerfs when we still had a say.


Damn it, sorry we should've listened to you when it was still time D:
Terran & Potato Salad.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 03:42:02
August 01 2013 03:41 GMT
#30
zerg hasnt the highest winrate, this threads gonna be 3 times longer than last months
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 01 2013 03:45 GMT
#31
On August 01 2013 12:41 teddyoojo wrote:
zerg hasnt the highest winrate, this threads gonna be 3 times longer than last months

All the terrans are going "Wait, we are winning. I'm not winning. Quickly, team meeting folks, we need to develop a response to this. I think we go with the APM excuse, Innovation and build order wins. That should do it till next month"
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3347 Posts
August 01 2013 05:40 GMT
#32
On August 01 2013 12:36 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 12:31 pmp10 wrote:
Ouch@Korean TvZ.
Told you we should have asked for nerfs when we still had a say.


Damn it, sorry we should've listened to you when it was still time D:

This isn't funny.
If Blizzard and zergs get to fixing this we may lose another unit.
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
August 01 2013 05:42 GMT
#33
Innovation and Flash destroyed TvZ winrate lol
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
August 01 2013 05:47 GMT
#34
On August 01 2013 14:42 tuho12345 wrote:
Innovation and Flash destroyed TvZ winrate lol

When the number of games is around 80, i guess they had something to do with it.
・゚✧:・゚+..。✧・゚:・..。 ✧・゚ :・゚ ゜・:・ ✧・゚:・゚:.。 ✧・゚ SPARKULING *・゜・:・゚✧:・゚✧。゚+..。 ✧・゚: ✧・゚:・゜・:・゚✧::・・:・゚・゚
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 05:54:30
August 01 2013 05:52 GMT
#35
Holy crap. That KR PvZ win % lol Wasn't expecting that.


Edit: 3333 posts!!!
Stephano//HerO//TaeJa//Squirtle//Bomber
Ralethon
Profile Joined July 2011
United States141 Posts
August 01 2013 06:04 GMT
#36
I feel like when professional level win rates are show people say "oh it's not a good representation because (insert gosu Koreans here) skew the statistics;" but then once they're shown statistics without the gosu Koreans they say they aren't relevant because they lack the best players. xP
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3807 Posts
August 01 2013 06:05 GMT
#37
For reference:
TvZ: 51.5% (1394 games)
PvT: 50.8% (1326 games)
PvZ: 48.5% (1717 games)
From http://aligulac.com/reports
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
F.O.A.D.
Profile Joined July 2013
Canada100 Posts
August 01 2013 06:05 GMT
#38
Everyone knows Z is currently UP. All we can do is wait for Blizz to wake up and make the necessary adjustments.
Reenock | Gumibro | Soulkey | sC | jjakji | Mvp | Innovation | Seed | Hurricane | Sniper | Dream | Maru
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
August 01 2013 06:08 GMT
#39
Game is pretty well balanced.
Winrates fluctuates people, when it stays between 45-55 range, there's nothing to be alarmed off...
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
August 01 2013 06:08 GMT
#40
On August 01 2013 15:05 F.O.A.D. wrote:
Everyone knows Z is currently UP. All we can do is wait for Blizz to wake up and make the necessary adjustments.

Not according to Aligulac

On August 01 2013 15:05 Grovbolle wrote:
For reference:
TvZ: 51.5% (1394 games)
PvT: 50.8% (1326 games)
PvZ: 48.5% (1717 games)
From http://aligulac.com/reports


I'm inclined to believe both, but it's hard for me not to take aligulac as the more trustworthy source. Also, zerg isn't UP, I don't see them using all the assets given to them in HoTS yet at all, a lot of zergs are sticking to WoL strats and the other two races have moved on a lot more.
User was warned for too many mimes.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 9 10 11 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
21:00
OSC Elite Rising Star #16
davetesta41
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
NeuroSwarm 260
SpeCial 116
Nathanias 109
RuFF_SC2 31
StarCraft: Brood War
NaDa 43
Dota 2
monkeys_forever302
League of Legends
Cuddl3bear4
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K549
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox495
AZ_Axe62
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor123
Other Games
summit1g8932
FrodaN4098
Grubby3905
shahzam874
JimRising 525
ToD260
XaKoH 132
Trikslyr66
ViBE30
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick563
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH131
• poizon28 24
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift5339
Other Games
• Scarra982
Upcoming Events
BSL Open LAN 2025 - War…
7h 10m
RSL Revival
9h 10m
Classic vs TBD
WardiTV Invitational
10h 10m
Online Event
15h 10m
Afreeca Starleague
1d 9h
Barracks vs Mini
Wardi Open
1d 10h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 15h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
LiuLi Cup
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
[ Show More ]
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
Maestros of the Game
6 days
Clem vs Reynor
[BSL 2025] Weekly
6 days
[BSL 2025] Weekly
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-09-18
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
BSL World Championship of Poland 2025
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL 21 Team A
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
EC S1
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.