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Existor
Russian Federation4295 Posts
Right now, there is only some info about new replay feature - possibility to jump to any part of replay. ![[image loading]](https://bnetcmsus-a.akamaihd.net/cms/content_folder_media/3D572S1XLHSB1374626553507.jpg) This thread will be main hub around new SC2 patch 2.0.10. Sources http://us.battle.net//sc2/en/blog/10495761#best http://www.blizzposts.com/blogentry/108707/replay-feature-update-with-patch-2010 
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Juice!
Belgium295 Posts
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Adonminus
Israel543 Posts
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Existor
Russian Federation4295 Posts
On July 25 2013 02:41 Adonminus wrote: Are they going to do any other improvements with that patch? Seems like yes | ||
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c0ldfusion
United States8293 Posts
Certainly balance changes are out of the question since David Kim has been kind enough to let us know about those personally. | ||
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garbanzo
United States4046 Posts
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AyaaLa
Spain629 Posts
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Existor
Russian Federation4295 Posts
On July 25 2013 02:46 c0ldfusion wrote: Edit: Hard to say. Certainly balance changes are out of the question since David Kim has been kind enough to let us know about those personally. This is client-patch, and it will not include any balance patches. Balance patches usually are separate from client-patches On July 25 2013 02:48 AyaaLa wrote: pls fix protoss late game, so hard This is not balance-patch | ||
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Shin_Gouki
United States313 Posts
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Vanimar
220 Posts
On July 25 2013 02:48 AyaaLa wrote: pls fix protoss late game, so hard Let us not go down the "my race needs X" path -.- | ||
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LuisFrost
Mexico130 Posts
... It's awesome, no more fast forwarding. It felt like watching a VCR. | ||
Zelniq
United States7166 Posts
this was literally the needle on the haystack that resulted in me taking a break from SC2 lol | ||
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Existor
Russian Federation4295 Posts
On July 25 2013 02:47 garbanzo wrote: Cool news, however, why link that site as a source when you can link the original Blizzard newspost? Because that site checks all the Blizzard posts, even if these posts aren't published in the news on main page | ||
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Shin_Gouki
United States313 Posts
On July 25 2013 02:50 Zelniq wrote: i bet they still don't fix the zerg bugged egg hatching sound that happens every egg that hatches -_- This would be nice too -_-v | ||
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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
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InfCereal
Canada1759 Posts
On July 25 2013 02:50 Zelniq wrote: i bet they still don't fix the zerg bugged egg hatching sound that happens every egg that hatches -_- this was literally the needle on the haystack that resulted in me taking a break from SC2 lol Is that the one that made the egg hatching sound like a cancelled egg? I thought they fixed that. Maybe I just tuned it out. | ||
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Msr
Korea (South)495 Posts
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Shade_FR
France378 Posts
Right now, a replay is a log with all the commands done by each player, the replay re-simulate the entiere game until a certain point. How will the game skip an entiere duration and know where will be the units etc etc ? I guess it's a technical achievement from Blizzard. Congrats to the devs. | ||
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y0su
Finland7871 Posts
On July 25 2013 02:51 Thieving Magpie wrote: This Day9 buff will make him even more OP I agree, this is a huge buff to Day9. | ||
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renaissanceMAN
United States1840 Posts
soon he will be more OP than zerg, terran and protoss combined! | ||
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julianto
2292 Posts
On July 25 2013 02:51 Thieving Magpie wrote: This Day9 buff will make him even more OP ffs this is not a balance patch! | ||
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willoc
Canada1530 Posts
On July 25 2013 02:56 Shade_FR wrote: How is this possible ? Technically speaking I mean. Right now, a replay is a log with all the commands done by each player, the replay re-simulate the entiere game until a certain point. How will the game skip an entiere duration and know where will be the units etc etc ? I guess it's a technical achievement from Blizzard. Congrats to the devs. Most likely just does it at the fastest speed (without gfx visuals) it can from the beggining point or the point you are currently at that is before the new desired point. If the game can keep up visuals at 8x or 16x then doing it without them should be a snap as long as the replay isn't incredibly long. Edit: Clarity. | ||
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Lonyo
United Kingdom3884 Posts
On July 25 2013 02:56 Shade_FR wrote: How is this possible ? Technically speaking I mean. Right now, a replay is a log with all the commands done by each player, the replay re-simulate the entiere game until a certain point. How will the game skip an entiere duration and know where will be the units etc etc ? I guess it's a technical achievement from Blizzard. Congrats to the devs. Maybe they will include periodic full state saves, e.g. every X minutes. And then commands from that point can be replayed. The indication is that there is still some time delay, but much less. Either it parses things much faster, and doesn't render, and that's how they get the speed, or there are shortcuts such as having a full state save or something. Sounds like they must almost certainly be adding something to the replay that means not everything needs to be parsed through. | ||
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garbanzo
United States4046 Posts
On July 25 2013 02:56 Shade_FR wrote: From the post:How is this possible ? Technically speaking I mean. Right now, a replay is a log with all the commands done by each player, the replay re-simulate the entiere game until a certain point. How will the game skip an entiere duration and know where will be the units etc etc ? I guess it's a technical achievement from Blizzard. Congrats to the devs. Now you can jump ahead, and the replay will seek ahead as fast as it can and automatically resume playing when it reaches that time. So it just sounds like it doesn't actually skip anything it's just able to run it faster than 8x. It can probably do that if it doesn't have to worry about making any updates to the game until it gets to the time you wanted.On July 25 2013 02:51 Existor wrote: Thanks for the adding the Blizzard post. I just think it's important to make sure that information come from a firsthand source, especially when it comes to patches.Because that site checks all the Blizzard posts, even if these posts aren't published in the news on main page | ||
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MrJoKer
France232 Posts
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SynQ
United States19 Posts
On July 25 2013 02:56 Shade_FR wrote: How is this possible ? Technically speaking I mean. Right now, a replay is a log with all the commands done by each player, the replay re-simulate the entiere game until a certain point. How will the game skip an entiere duration and know where will be the units etc etc ? I guess it's a technical achievement from Blizzard. Congrats to the devs. I tried to reply to you on B.net but it gave me an internal server error >.< My guess would be that it simulates all the commands, actions, etc. but does not actually display them. Kind of does internal calculations. It is a very impressive addition to the replay feature and i'm looking forward to using it. | ||
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RoyGBiv_13
United States1275 Posts
On July 25 2013 03:08 SynQ wrote: I tried to reply to you on B.net but it gave me an internal server error >.< My guess would be that it simulates all the commands, actions, etc. but does not actually display them. Kind of does internal calculations. It is a very impressive addition to the replay feature and i'm looking forward to using it. My shot in the dark is that they save game-state occasionally, then when you skip ahead, it goes to a game-state, then simulates from there to your point. | ||
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starslayer
United States696 Posts
lol really are you sure about that | ||
BisuDagger
Bisutopia19223 Posts
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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
He's had a slight dip in viewership, this is most definitely a balance patch to make the Day9 v WCS more fair  | ||
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
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Existor
Russian Federation4295 Posts
On July 25 2013 03:14 BisuDagger wrote: This jump feature will be great. So many times I screw up a battle and want to just quit and resume replay like a minute before. Can't wait! Congratz with 6666th post | ||
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19223 Posts
On July 25 2013 03:16 Thieving Magpie wrote: He's had a slight dip in viewership, this is most definitely a balance patch to make the Day9 v WCS more fair But what if Day9 is only compatible with the old replays? NoooooooooooooooooooooooooI I killed it! ...BTW Thanks  | ||
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phodacbiet
United States1740 Posts
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Existor
Russian Federation4295 Posts
On July 25 2013 03:18 phodacbiet wrote: Let's be honest here, this patch will be like patch 1.5. Nothing will change (except stuff gets moved around), arcade will still be shit, and making a custom game will still require GM level knowledge. Well, you can check all patches here, including client-patches http://eu.battle.net/sc2/ru/blog/10495761/режим-повторов-в-обновлении-2010-24-07-2013#best | ||
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Zelniq
United States7166 Posts
On July 25 2013 02:53 InfCereal wrote: Is that the one that made the egg hatching sound like a cancelled egg? I thought they fixed that. Maybe I just tuned it out. it's the same sound as a zergling dying. it's a little explosion, it's annoying | ||
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Master of DalK
Canada1797 Posts
Ty based Blizzard, I hope more fixes and additions come in this patch. | ||
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juicyjames
United States3815 Posts
On July 25 2013 03:37 Master of DalK wrote: As a caster, I'm fucking estatic about this. Such a pain when you accidently hit restart, or just want to load up the replay to show a certain point in the game (kind of like how SPL does). Ty based Blizzard, I hope more fixes and additions come in this patch. I imagine Patch 2.0.10 will also coincide with the 4v4 bugfix patch. http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/8796521547#12 (July 18) I've just learned that a fix for this issue will be implemented in the next patch, which should be released within a few weeks. | ||
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graNite
Germany4434 Posts
On July 25 2013 03:37 Master of DalK wrote: As a caster, I'm fucking estatic about this. Such a pain when you accidently hit restart, or just want to load up the replay to show a certain point in the game (kind of like how SPL does). Ty based Blizzard, I hope more fixes and additions come in this patch. Well if you hit restart you can always go back to the point where you were. I dont know why we cant go from a fnished game to the replay directly yet. Everything is loaded, every unit is there...Instead of leaveing the game I just want to watch the replay from there on and I have to load it all over again | ||
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Jade
Poland289 Posts
! ( at least they finally implemented that ). | ||
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Skron
Canada19 Posts
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asdfOu
United States2089 Posts
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Existor
Russian Federation4295 Posts
On July 25 2013 03:48 asdfOu wrote: how soon is soon? Few weeks from 6 days ago http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/8796521547#12 | ||
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zw1er
Poland81 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20284 Posts
Sounds like they must almost certainly be adding something to the replay that means not everything needs to be parsed through. I got the impression that they would just parse the replay as fast as possible. For my friends system that lagscreens constantly at high speeds in shared replays (x8 or even x4 whenever a battle hits, so it takes 2-3x longer to reach the 1 hour mark than me) it wouldn't help much, for me for example with fast CPU singlethread, ram and ssd, it could probably run x20 or even more perhaps | ||
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GreyKnight
United States4720 Posts
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ReignSupreme.
Australia4123 Posts
Not even mad, just disappointed | ||
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Betelgeuse
Canada210 Posts
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Killmouse
Austria5700 Posts
On July 25 2013 03:54 ReignSupreme. wrote: Wow finally, another thing that should have been in the client from the start. Not even mad, just disappointed better late than never | ||
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fly.stat
United States449 Posts
On July 25 2013 02:56 Shade_FR wrote: I guess it's a technical achievement from Blizzard. Congrats to the devs. Dota 2 has had this feature for a long time. | ||
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danbel1005
United States1319 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + For Day[9] | ||
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dcemuser
United States3248 Posts
On July 25 2013 04:55 fly.stat wrote: Dota 2 has had this feature for a long time. Dota 2's replays are handled vastly differently. The structure behind the SC2 replays makes stuff like this super difficult but it allows programs like SC2Gears to exist, where you can't have any of that awesome functionality for Dota. | ||
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snively
United States1159 Posts
lol | ||
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.kv
United States2332 Posts
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SupLilSon
Malaysia4123 Posts
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Existor
Russian Federation4295 Posts
On July 25 2013 05:07 snively wrote: i read the title as: sc2, patch# 0.1 lol Thats the trick of the title SC2.0.10 .....^ that number touches SC and patch version at same time | ||
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Vertitto
Poland750 Posts
On July 25 2013 03:32 Zelniq wrote: it's the same sound as a zergling dying. it's a little explosion, it's annoying not as much as SCV response line scream as if u were under attack... | ||
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Shadowed
United States679 Posts
On July 25 2013 05:05 dcemuser wrote: Dota 2's replays are handled vastly differently. The structure behind the SC2 replays makes stuff like this super difficult but it allows programs like SC2Gears to exist, where you can't have any of that awesome functionality for Dota. Also they are kind of different games in terms of functionality a replay would have to support. Last I looked, SC2 replays were state based which makes sense given the game and why this took longer to come. | ||
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baldgye
United Kingdom1092 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States16056 Posts
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Killmouse
Austria5700 Posts
On July 25 2013 04:55 fly.stat wrote: Dota 2 has had this feature for a long time. well u need to wait like 15 min after a match to be able to view it(i guess cauz its uploading to the server?), which i rlly hated, while in sc2 u can watch it instantly after a game | ||
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crbox
Canada1180 Posts
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NeThZOR
South Africa7387 Posts
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TyrianSC2
Canada52 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44106 Posts
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Shebuha
Canada1335 Posts
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Cereb
Denmark3388 Posts
On July 25 2013 03:54 ReignSupreme. wrote: Wow finally, another thing that should have been in the client from the start. Not even mad, just disappointed Yeah, I hate when they don't include something that in-theory-shoul-be-impossible-to-make-but-somehow-they-defied-that-and made-it-possible straight away into the game... Don't you feel this is just a slightly entitled point of view? :| I really want to know how they are making this actually. So far no other game has ever been able to do this as far as I know - very impressive! Also, is Day9 getting a nerf in response to this cause otherwise I don't see this being balanced at all. | ||
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Steelo_Rivers
United States1968 Posts
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
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AwM
United States80 Posts
On July 25 2013 08:13 Cereb wrote: Yeah, I hate when they don't include something that in-theory-shoul-be-impossible-to-make-but-somehow-they-defied-that-and made-it-possible straight away into the game... Why should it be impossible in theory? If it just loaded the whole file into a buffer like any video you watch locally, or really any non-live streamed video you would be able to jump around, right? + Show Spoiler + I think DOTA2 has the ability to do this already, but it's some weird server thing | ||
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R1CH
Netherlands10340 Posts
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rename
Estonia329 Posts
On July 25 2013 09:44 AwM wrote: Why should it be impossible in theory? If it just loaded the whole file into a buffer like any video you watch locally, or really any non-live streamed video you would be able to jump around, right? + Show Spoiler + I think DOTA2 has the ability to do this already, but it's some weird server thing Starcraft2 replays record only player actions to make the files smaller ( 20-100kb or so ) Dota2 replays probably saves where everything is per every frame making the replay files about 20-30mb. There likely is a sweet spot between those two extremes that allows replay seeking without gigantic replay files of dota2. | ||
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scCassius
United States254 Posts
On July 25 2013 09:44 AwM wrote: Why should it be impossible in theory? If it just loaded the whole file into a buffer like any video you watch locally, or really any non-live streamed video you would be able to jump around, right? + Show Spoiler + I think DOTA2 has the ability to do this already, but it's some weird server thing Yeah that's not how this works. | ||
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BirdKiller
United States428 Posts
On July 25 2013 02:56 Shade_FR wrote: How is this possible ? Technically speaking I mean. Right now, a replay is a log with all the commands done by each player, the replay re-simulate the entiere game until a certain point. How will the game skip an entiere duration and know where will be the units etc etc ? I guess it's a technical achievement from Blizzard. Congrats to the devs. I'd imagine the new system will take up more memory and space in the sense that either the replays will be partially "pre-buffered" or individual units will have more properties (position, action, current command, etc.). I wouldn't say it's much of a technical achievement; I'm sure Blizzard was able to do this long time ago, only limited by the amount of memory and space typical PC users had in the past. I wouldn't be surprised if other RTS games had this feature long before SC2. | ||
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DenTenker
United States606 Posts
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Mutaller
United States1051 Posts
I love the Buffed Day[9] joke | ||
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Myrddraal
Australia937 Posts
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juicyjames
United States3815 Posts
On July 25 2013 11:14 reps)squishy wrote: YES! Blizzard should focus on stuff like this instead of sitting on their asses and waiting for a blatant imbalance. What about a colorblind mode, I sure need that. http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/9245745034#4 (July 12th) We've actually been working on colorblind support and I think you will see something very shortly on it. | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
On July 25 2013 07:04 NeThZOR wrote: Great news. I always wondered why they left out this feature. Because the replay was just a log of the commands issued, thats why replays could actually look a bit different each time. Was funny when that happened in BW replays big times and then game went complete insane. At the end you didn't have many features due to this, but it was fast and small, which is always preferable over load times. They probably log a bit more now, which is the reason why replays will become incompatible. Hope it doesn't affect load times to much but I am rather curious how they made it work. And resume from replay is probably the main reason why this gets implemented. | ||
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BlueBoxSC
United States582 Posts
On July 25 2013 07:00 crbox wrote: hopefully they fix the sound bug (looping sound effects) Pressing Ctrl+S 10 times a game is pretty annoying Is that what that is? I always get that on my starting workers, it's soooo annoying. =( | ||
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SamirDuran
Philippines894 Posts
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KrazyTrumpet
United States2520 Posts
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-Kyo-
Japan1926 Posts
Cool, thanks for bringing this up. I'm hoping this means they'll finally, and I mean almost after 2 years, be looking at re-adding something like Stronger Team Colors. I mean... It was already created, and still works in GameHeart, has no direct affect on the game, and only helps people with vision issues. I don't even have vision issues and I preferred it simply because it looked way better. Thanks for the post  ! | ||
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kaluro
Netherlands760 Posts
On July 25 2013 02:50 Zelniq wrote: i bet they still don't fix the zerg bugged egg hatching sound that happens every egg that hatches -_- this was literally the needle on the haystack that resulted in me taking a break from SC2 lol I play zerg myself, I have played >200 games this season. I have not once noticed something wrong with any zerg sound, not even eggs hatching. What's this egg sound issue you are talking of?! On July 25 2013 03:32 Zelniq wrote: it's the same sound as a zergling dying. it's a little explosion, it's annoying Dug up that.. I'm going to pay attention to that today haha, would be awesome. SPLAT SPLAT -> Hey there roaches! | ||
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Nekovivie
United Kingdom2599 Posts
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Erraa93
Australia891 Posts
Day9 too OP now | ||
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
On July 25 2013 02:48 AyaaLa wrote: pls fix protoss late game, so hard no its fine stop whine i am SO thrilled for that patch ... jump to any place will make watch end of long games so much superior ... no more wait 5minutes on speed 8 etc | ||
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ejozl
Denmark3343 Posts
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29 fps
United States5724 Posts
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doktorLucifer
United States855 Posts
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Spec
Taiwan931 Posts
On July 25 2013 18:46 kaluro wrote: I play zerg myself, I have played >200 games this season. I have not once noticed something wrong with any zerg sound, not even eggs hatching. What's this egg sound issue you are talking of?! Dug up that.. I'm going to pay attention to that today haha, would be awesome. SPLAT SPLAT -> Hey there roaches! Sorry I play Zerg as well and it's the most insane thing to happen. For me it sounds a little bit like units popping out from eggs. Basically what happens is that the weird sound keeps repeating itself for like 3 minutes. Always happens when I'm streaming. Can't seem to find specific cause or solution to it. Blizzard tried to fix it couple patches ago, but it seems that they could not do it... | ||
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TAMinator
Australia2706 Posts
On July 25 2013 12:57 SamirDuran wrote: they should have done this a looooooooooooooooooooooong time ago Agreed. | ||
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Butterednuts
United States859 Posts
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figq
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shin_toss
Philippines2589 Posts
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Czarnodziej
Poland624 Posts
Insulting. | ||
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althaz
Australia1001 Posts
On July 25 2013 02:56 Shade_FR wrote: How is this possible ? Technically speaking I mean. Right now, a replay is a log with all the commands done by each player, the replay re-simulate the entiere game until a certain point. How will the game skip an entiere duration and know where will be the units etc etc ? I guess it's a technical achievement from Blizzard. Congrats to the devs. Simply process the actions in the background (there's likely other ways to do it but that seems by far the easiest)? TBH I'm not sure why this hasn't been in from the start. | ||
KristofferAG
Norway25712 Posts
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D4V3Z02
Germany693 Posts
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Railgan
Switzerland1507 Posts
On July 25 2013 21:45 doktorLucifer wrote: Not sure if this is relevant, but sometimes when I'm playing, random units will keep spamming their "selection acknowledgement sound" even when I'm not hotkey cycling so much, or anything. The only way to get my units to shut up is to alt tab the game lol. Is this an old bug, or is it just me? OR is it gonna get fixed? press control+s wait 2 seconds press control+s again. As long as you mute the sound long enough for an entire "cycle" to go through the sound will disappear. | ||
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mechengineer123
Ukraine711 Posts
On July 25 2013 21:45 doktorLucifer wrote: Not sure if this is relevant, but sometimes when I'm playing, random units will keep spamming their "selection acknowledgement sound" even when I'm not hotkey cycling so much, or anything. The only way to get my units to shut up is to alt tab the game lol. Is this an old bug, or is it just me? OR is it gonna get fixed? yah this a known bug, it seemed a lot worse during beta, would happen to me every game, now only occasionally pausing/unpausing also makes those units shut up | ||
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FiLLyStarCraft
Germany3 Posts
On July 25 2013 23:04 mechengineer123 wrote: yah this a known bug, it seemed a lot worse during beta, would happen to me every game, now only occasionally pausing/unpausing also makes those units shut up for me, pressing strg + s (disabling sound), waiting for a second, pressing strg + s (enabling sound) again makes the probe shut the fudge up! | ||
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
On July 25 2013 02:50 Zelniq wrote: i bet they still don't fix the zerg bugged egg hatching sound that happens every egg that hatches -_- this was literally the needle on the haystack that resulted in me taking a break from SC2 lol straw that broke the camel's back? and why wasn't this here from the beginning? It's always bugged me :/ | ||
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shid0x
Korea (South)5014 Posts
possibility to jump to any part of replay. 'Bout goddman time. | ||
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silentzero
Canada38 Posts
But yeah, replay function improvement is a good start. One step at a time I guess | ||
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fr4nkthet4nk
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On July 25 2013 02:56 Shade_FR wrote: How is this possible ? Technically speaking I mean. Right now, a replay is a log with all the commands done by each player, the replay re-simulate the entiere game until a certain point. How will the game skip an entiere duration and know where will be the units etc etc ? I guess it's a technical achievement from Blizzard. Congrats to the devs. I've seen a lot of people say this. Does no one actually fully read the patch notes? They specifically say, "Now you can jump ahead, and the replay will seek ahead as fast as it can and automatically resume playing when it reaches that time." The game will still process all of the commands it is given. It just doesn't make you watch it process everything. It isn't going to be an instant jump. Probably the quality of your computer will decide how fast you can actually skip ahead. | ||
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AwM
United States80 Posts
On July 25 2013 22:35 Czarnodziej wrote: 3 years after the release. Insulting. Then never use the feature? I sure would hate for you to be insulted. | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
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FnaticPink
Denmark324 Posts
On July 25 2013 02:50 Zelniq wrote: i bet they still don't fix the zerg bugged egg hatching sound that happens every egg that hatches -_- this was literally the needle on the haystack that resulted in me taking a break from SC2 lol Please dont ever use that saying like that. | ||
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Poland3748 Posts
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nimdil
Poland3748 Posts
On July 25 2013 23:44 fr4nkthet4nk wrote: I've seen a lot of people say this. Does no one actually fully read the patch notes? They specifically say, "Now you can jump ahead, and the replay will seek ahead as fast as it can and automatically resume playing when it reaches that time." The game will still process all of the commands it is given. It just doesn't make you watch it process everything. It isn't going to be an instant jump. Probably the quality of your computer will decide how fast you can actually skip ahead. GPU powered replay scanning | ||
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IcookTacos
Sweden295 Posts
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Shinespark
Chile843 Posts
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29 fps
United States5724 Posts
On July 26 2013 00:28 Shinespark wrote: I hope they patch the mothership core so its attack isn't so damn loud. I mean it's about as loud as a tank shot and it does like 5 damage. I know... every time I hear it, I think it's doing a lot of damage when in fact it is just tickling them | ||
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ineedthatsong
Germany2 Posts
Blizzard is failing all the way damn it and I thought Valve is fail with their decisions about everything but this O_O | ||
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Nuclease
United States1049 Posts
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
Is this the good way to say you are happy that they implemented it ? Why all people are negative i don't get it. | ||
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WIllBIll
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Existor
Russian Federation4295 Posts
On July 26 2013 00:47 FFW_Rude wrote: I see a lot of people that say : "what, it's about time" etc... Is this the good way to say you are happy that they implemented it ? Why all people are negative i don't get it.Maybe because such a big company like Blizzard should be able to do all these things a bit faster? Or it means that they have lazy programmers | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On July 26 2013 00:52 Existor wrote: Maybe because such a big company like Blizzard should be able to do all these things a bit faster? Or it means that they have lazy programmers OK they took time. But it's finally here Be happy ! | ||
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GoodSirTets
Canada200 Posts
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graNite
Germany4434 Posts
On July 26 2013 01:15 GoodSirTets wrote: It takes three years to patch so we can jump to any part of replays? imagine wheat we have 10 years from now on! could be instant replay function after game is finished without loading everything new! | ||
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[F_]aths
Germany3947 Posts
On July 26 2013 00:05 nimdil wrote: I wonder why they won't provide backward compatibility... Because old replays are rendered with an old client. | ||
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Chr15t
Denmark1103 Posts
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Bocian
Poland259 Posts
On July 26 2013 01:15 GoodSirTets wrote: It takes three years to patch so we can jump to any part of replays? You think its that easy from technical side of view? :> | ||
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krsn
United States2 Posts
On July 25 2013 02:56 Shade_FR wrote: How is this possible ? Technically speaking I mean. Right now, a replay is a log with all the commands done by each player, the replay re-simulate the entiere game until a certain point. How will the game skip an entiere duration and know where will be the units etc etc ? I guess it's a technical achievement from Blizzard. Congrats to the devs. I suspect they will add a gamestate in the replay "log" such that he game client can recreate what the game looks like at that point. The replay will get longer as it needs to hold more information to allow scrubbing forwards and backwards. Pretty cool Bliz, it's about time. | ||
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[F_]aths
Germany3947 Posts
On July 26 2013 00:47 FFW_Rude wrote: I see a lot of people that say : "what, it's about time" etc... Is this the good way to say you are happy that they implemented it ? Why all people are negative i don't get it.They think it makes them look cool. | ||
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Netherlands289 Posts
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Chr15t
Denmark1103 Posts
On July 26 2013 01:26 Bocian wrote: You think its that easy from technical side of view? :> As a CS-student i wouldnt say its terrible terrible hard, the thing is, its far down the priority list of the dev-staff, since replays worked pretty well without this feature. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
Complaining on the internet about stuff we don't understand or have limited experience doing is the best way to look hip and awesome. I am waiting for the next level: Post: My wife was in labor for 36 hour with our son, he is beautiful healthy and strong. Internet response: Took her long enough, geez. She had 9 months to plan for that and it still look 36 hours. You should consider getting a better wife. I am writting an email to your healthcare provider to tell them to drop you for your wife's lack luster effort. | ||
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Prplppleatr
United States1518 Posts
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Riner1212
United States337 Posts
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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
On July 26 2013 01:21 graNite wrote: imagine wheat we have 10 years from now on! could be instant replay function after game is finished without loading everything new! Replays of your loss already playing the moment you start a game. Ladder Fear Inferno Mode. | ||
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Existential
Australia2107 Posts
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Killmouse
Austria5700 Posts
On July 26 2013 02:05 Existential wrote: Wow about time they did this. It's so frustrating watching sc2 replays. its even more frustrating watching dota 2 replays,,,,, | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 26 2013 02:18 Killmouse wrote: its even more frustrating watching dota 2 replays,,,,, How about those league of legands replays? Those are totally a pain....wait.... | ||
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NEEDZMOAR
Sweden1277 Posts
On July 26 2013 01:38 Riner1212 wrote: will they be working on something to prevent hackers from playing the game? Dont you know? Blizzard is already working on that. Dude have you been living under a rock? They even have a "report hacker" system ingame. Nice touch, not that its very needed "blizzard programmers are lazy" really? You gotta love all these selfproclaimed experts on everything that somehow always show up in TL-threads... disgusting.... | ||
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havok55
United States276 Posts
No its a nerf now he cant go afk while the replays load. | ||
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rtem
Finland54 Posts
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Existor
Russian Federation4295 Posts
"blizzard programmers are lazy" really? You gotta love all these selfproclaimed experts on everything that somehow always show up in TL-threads... disgusting.... Blizzard company is giant, they have tons of resources, but they're implementing such small features (replay resume, replay scroll, replay control) every year? I think, they can more, I believe. Yeah, Blizzard can do more, but they don't want, if anyone already loves them. Especially when there is no competition. If there is no competition, then it becomes stale. Only when Blizzards will have "enemy" which can do something better at RTS making, only then Blizzard will do more. Right now there is no reason to do more. | ||
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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
On July 26 2013 03:11 Existor wrote: Blizzard company is giant, they have tons of resources, but they're implementing such small features (replay resume, replay scroll, replay control) every year? I think, they can more, I believe. Yeah, Blizzard can do more, but they don't want, if anyone already loves them. Especially when there is no competition. If there is no competition, then it becomes stale. Only when Blizzards will have "enemy" which can do something better at RTS making, only then Blizzard will do more. Right now there is no reason to do more. I think their WoW revenue is 80+% of their income? (iirc) Which means that SC2, D3, Titan, +other R&D projects fight over most likely only 20% of their attention. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 26 2013 03:11 Existor wrote: Blizzard company is giant, they have tons of resources, but they're implementing such small features (replay resume, replay scroll, replay control) every year? I think, they can more, I believe. Yeah, Blizzard can do more, but they don't want, if anyone already loves them. Especially when there is no competition. If there is no competition, then it becomes stale. Only when Blizzards will have "enemy" which can do something better at RTS making, only then Blizzard will do more. Right now there is no reason to do more. You do realise that Dota 2 replays kinda suck and there are no LoL replays. Thats right, no LoL replays. They have the best replay system out there, better than any other game. Yet for some reason people think Blizzard is slacking. | ||
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nobot87
United States23 Posts
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Shelltoe
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thezanursic
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SimoNostalgia
United States226 Posts
sounds like a good patch. | ||
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Rainling
United States456 Posts
On July 26 2013 03:17 Plansix wrote: You do realise that Dota 2 replays kinda suck and there are no LoL replays. Thats right, no LoL replays. They have the best replay system out there, better than any other game. Yet for some reason people think Blizzard is slacking. The Dota 2 replay system seems good to me. It might be lacking some features like APM tracking but overall it seems decent, I don't really have any problems with it. | ||
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Topdoller
United Kingdom3860 Posts
On July 26 2013 03:11 Existor wrote: Blizzard company is giant, they have tons of resources, but they're implementing such small features (replay resume, replay scroll, replay control) every year? I think, they can more, I believe. Yeah, Blizzard can do more, but they don't want, if anyone already loves them. Especially when there is no competition. If there is no competition, then it becomes stale. Only when Blizzards will have "enemy" which can do something better at RTS making, only then Blizzard will do more. Right now there is no reason to do more. You might want to read this before stating Blizzard are a giant. Their parent company is 17 Billion dollars in debt and may be sucking Activision\ Blizzard dry in order to pay the bills. Its interesting stuff http://www.gamebreaker.tv/pc-games/vivendi-bleeding-blizzard-what-does-it-all-mean/ | ||
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MatiaasS !
Chile167 Posts
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KnadRa
United States56 Posts
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Killmouse
Austria5700 Posts
On July 26 2013 04:38 Rainling wrote: The Dota 2 replay system seems good to me. It might be lacking some features like APM tracking but overall it seems decent, I don't really have any problems with it. so u dont have the problem that u cant view the replaye immediatley after a match? when i want to know what excatly happened last game i have to wait like 10 -15 min before i can watch it, after that time i have already lost interest in watching the replay | ||
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.kv
United States2332 Posts
just wondering...but nonetheless about damn time...good patch | ||
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kugel
Germany116 Posts
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Nausea
Sweden807 Posts
On July 26 2013 05:55 Killmouse wrote: so u dont have the problem that u cant view the replaye immediatley after a match? when i want to know what excatly happened last game i have to wait like 10 -15 min before i can watch it, after that time i have already lost interest in watching the replay And what you get in return is being able to download replays from friends games, random matchmaking games replays and watch them or even watch a live game during the time you queue. Those bastards. And to top it off, good first person perspective of the player you want to watch, hot damn | ||
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wcLLg
United States281 Posts
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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
On July 26 2013 06:32 Nausea wrote: And what you get in return is being able to download replays from friends games, random matchmaking games replays and watch them or even watch a live game during the time you queue. Those bastards. And to top it off, good first person perspective of the player you want to watch, hot damn If you have to wait 15 minutes to watch a replay you're already playing the next game having learned nothing from the last game... If I wanted to watch replays for entertainment I'd download a pro-replay. Watching my own replays is for learning, waiting 15 minutes stops that. | ||
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Nausea
Sweden807 Posts
On July 26 2013 06:39 Thieving Magpie wrote: If you have to wait 15 minutes to watch a replay you're already playing the next game having learned nothing from the last game... If I wanted to watch replays for entertainment I'd download a pro-replay. Watching my own replays is for learning, waiting 15 minutes stops that. Well I can't think of many instances when you actually need to review you play directly after a game in Dota. Usually the errors are pretty easy to find during the game. | ||
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Aberu
United States968 Posts
On July 25 2013 02:50 Zelniq wrote: i bet they still don't fix the zerg bugged egg hatching sound that happens every egg that hatches -_- this was literally the needle on the haystack that resulted in me taking a break from SC2 lol I really hope the fix the sound that bugs out and starts playing over... and over... and over... and over... and over.. for like a minute of game time... bug. | ||
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fireforce7
United States334 Posts
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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
On July 26 2013 07:00 fireforce7 wrote: HOnestly, this should have been in the game when it first came out...but I'm glad it's coming now! :D I still compare the HotS replay features with the BW replay features. | ||
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GodZo
Italy224 Posts
I hope some serious company buys StarCraft, Original Blizzard is dead since 2008 more or less. The quality is very low. | ||
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Killmouse
Austria5700 Posts
On July 26 2013 06:32 Nausea wrote: And what you get in return is being able to download replays from friends games, random matchmaking games replays and watch them or even watch a live game durin g the time you queue. Those bastards. And to top it off, good first person perspective of the player you want to watch, hot damn 2 different games and methods u cant compare both games 1:1 , both system have adv and disadv, sc2 got this feature but dota got this feature etc., but i like the sc2 replay system more cauz its small and fast btw i havnt searched for it, but it is possible to watch in d2 replays with friends together ingame? @bo1b couple of minutes like 10-15 min?? before the rep is ready the next match already started and u already forgot about the past game and dont care about the replay anymore | ||
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bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
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Miscellany
Wales125 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland24798 Posts
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radscorpion9
Canada2252 Posts
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RyF
Austria508 Posts
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WetSocks
United States953 Posts
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Daogin
Canada2308 Posts
On July 26 2013 08:52 GodZo wrote: Very sad to read about so much bugs, and programming delays, on StarCraft. I hope some serious company buys StarCraft, Original Blizzard is dead since 2008 more or less. The quality is very low. Please tell me a good company that can do better then blizzard, and don't say riot or some shit | ||
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magnaflow
Canada1521 Posts
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Malphite
United States186 Posts
Man i stopped playing sc2 but i still watch it... I grew up playing brood war.. it's like my first love.. always gonna love starcraft. Blizzard >>>> any gaming company. Riot is milking their cash cow, lets see how they do after the LoL scene is over. | ||
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MrMedic
Canada452 Posts
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Nerevar
547 Posts
On July 26 2013 10:59 radscorpion9 wrote: I'm surprised it took them this long to add such a simple, helpful feature that everyone always wanted for replays. I guess there were more important things to do? Replay with friends. Resume/recover from replay. More replay info for stuff like sc2gears. Customisable UI. More info tabs, click on icon in tab to jump to unit/building/upgrade Making sure the above is bug-free and doesn't break the replay. Not to mention whatever other parts of the game that the personnel needed to address. | ||
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docvoc
United States5491 Posts
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lawls544
United States36 Posts
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FoShao
United States256 Posts
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glaresc
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Canada4773 Posts
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[F_]aths
Germany3947 Posts
On July 26 2013 03:11 Existor wrote: Blizzard company is giant, they have tons of resources, but they're implementing such small features (replay resume, replay scroll, replay control) every year? I think, they can more, I believe. Yeah, Blizzard can do more, but they don't want, if anyone already loves them. Especially when there is no competition. If there is no competition, then it becomes stale. Only when Blizzards will have "enemy" which can do something better at RTS making, only then Blizzard will do more. Right now there is no reason to do more. A project complex like Starcraft 2 is not easy to handle. Any new feature interacts with a lot of things. If you have a lot of manpower, many persons need to talk frequently to be updated on anything which they need to know. To add a feature which was not planned at the time of the development, can be a horrendous complex task even if the feature itself seems small from the user's standpoint. It looks like with fast forwarding, the game gets to the point in the game while not rendering the content. That might seems easy "just disable the rendering". But any relevant object still needs to be updated according to the replay. So you have: ▸ the UI team, enabling fast forward into the region where no game data yet exists ▸ the rendering engine guys to ensure that the 3d graphics will resume without glitches ▸ the game engine group to make sure that still any object is updated even though it was not rendered While we would like to have this feature right from the start, we still could be thankful that we get new features without having to play for DLC or an expansion. | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On July 26 2013 06:33 wcLLg wrote: still no change to the bunker... What is the problem with bunker ? | ||
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TranceKuja
United States154 Posts
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zmsFlood
Finland169 Posts
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On July 26 2013 17:34 TranceKuja wrote: Wow I had no idea how many computer programers posted on TL. Either that or people are talking a lot of shit about something they know nothing about. I'm sure that wouldn't happen on the internet though. That's kind of this for the most part I'm a programer but i know nothing about building a game that huge and i'm sure a LOT of people there don't know too | ||
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llIH
Norway2142 Posts
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Clbull
United Kingdom1439 Posts
Really, this is something SC2 needed three years ago. LoL replays (from the 3rd party program) allow you to skip forward... Dota 2 replays allow you to skip forward. SC2 ones have to be played from the start and can only be fastforwarded to 8x speed. Hell... Age of Empires II replays, which came in The Conquerors expansion pack which came out about 13 years ago had this support... The fact this basic functionality took so long to implement makes me worry about Blizzard and the future of SC2. | ||
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graNite
Germany4434 Posts
On July 26 2013 18:18 FFW_Rude wrote: That's kind of this for the most part I'm a programer but i know nothing about building a game that huge and i'm sure a LOT of people there don't know too You dont have to know how to program if you want to compare games. I have no clues about building cars and I can still talk about what I like and dont like and what a car should have today. If we were talking about completely new features that nobody would know how to implement, this would be a fair point. But this is about features that already exist. Moreover, Bnet 2.0 didnt have all functions bnet 1 had, and seeing a company that large taking a step back is really sad for the game. In german we call something like this "bananenprinzip" it means the product is not finished completely when the customer gets it... | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On July 26 2013 20:52 graNite wrote: You dont have to know how to program if you want to compare games. I have no clues about building cars and I can still talk about what I like and dont like and what a car should have today. If we were talking about completely new features that nobody would know how to implement, this would be a fair point. But this is about features that already exist. Moreover, Bnet 2.0 didnt have all functions bnet 1 had, and seeing a company that large taking a step back is really sad for the game. In german we call something like this "bananenprinzip" it means the product is not finished completely when the customer gets it... Well... It's not the same platform, engine, so there is limitations maybe. Replays where not retrocompatible in BW so there is your step forward, also BW replays didn't have all the features that came in in SC2. Sure some stuff lacked in Bnet2.0 But comparing that another game has this fonctionality over this game is like saying "I don't understand why there is no 12cylinder motor in my cars ! Ferrari have it ! It's easy to implement". (ok i'm bad at metaphore) but i just say that touching a BIG program can cause a lot of trouble, time, money etc... Do you want to see HotS or do you want to fast forward replay. I'm gonna take an old work example for a small thing that took days of work. Ok so we had a program that you could create "person/customer sheets". You could chose : "Mister or Madam". So the program was done with a boolean inbase (0 or 1). And years later, i had my boss saying : "Now people complain about it and they want : Mister, Madam and miss)... This modification required to : "Modify the customer database", "Modify each "printscreen" of this, all the pages where you could specify gender" etc.. Took me a week to do it. (big program + i didn't know it really well, in a langage that i barely knew) but still. It would have been DAYS of work Is it understandable ? Explaining this in english is quite difficult for me | ||
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ulan-bat
China403 Posts
On July 26 2013 21:08 FFW_Rude wrote: Well... It's not the same platform, engine, so there is limitations maybe. Replays where not retrocompatible in BW so there is your step forward, also BW replays didn't have all the features that came in in SC2. Sure some stuff lacked in Bnet2.0 But comparing that another game has this fonctionality over this game is like saying "I don't understand why there is no 12cylinder motor in my cars ! Ferrari have it ! It's easy to implement". (ok i'm bad at metaphore) but i just say that touching a BIG program can cause a lot of trouble, time, money etc... Do you want to see HotS or do you want to fast forward replay. I'm gonna take an old work example for a small thing that took days of work. Ok so we had a program that you could create "person/customer sheets". You could chose : "Mister or Madam". So the program was done with a boolean inbase (0 or 1). And years later, i had my boss saying : "Now people complain about it and they want : Mister, Madam and miss)... This modification required to : "Modify the customer database", "Modify each "printscreen" of this, all the pages where you could specify gender" etc.. Took me a week to do it. (big program + i didn't know it really well, in a langage that i barely knew) but still. It would have been DAYS of work Is it understandable ? Explaining this in english is quite difficult for me What you say is true in general, but the case here is they built a game from scratch knowing what features had to be in there from the start. Your miss example is a case of an added feature | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On July 26 2013 22:42 ulan-bat wrote: What you say is true in general, but the case here is they built a game from scratch knowing what features had to be in there from the start. Your miss example is a case of an added feature I see what you mean. But i don't think you could fast forward replay in bw. Could you ? I don't remember. | ||
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BroMalone
Andorra8 Posts
Lots of people have mentioned Dota2 replays, and I agree they are a lot better than SC2 replay files. Starcraft replays mostly track the clicks and commands the player makes. Since the game has no randomness, the commands can be used to perfectly recreate the match. Even with random elements, replays can still work this way though. Warcraft 3 used the same replay format, but you can write RNG algorithms that will always generate the same results. The downside is that the replay file can't hold much information about the actual game state. For example, GGTracker can't tell you your exact army composition, it can only guess by looking at your unit selection commands. It doesn't know for sure if a unit dies, it just guesses that since you have one less marine in your control group, then a marine probably died. Another example is the screwed up build orders that SC2gears gives you. It knows you pressed the "make SCV" button, but it doesn't know if you are supply blocked or if you can actually afford the unit. So if you mash buttons it will think that you started producing 10 SCVs at once. The 2.0.8 patch added some new info to replay files that fixes some of this though. Dota2 replays track user input, but also take occasional snapshots of the exact game state. When you fast-forward, it looks for the closest snapshot and loads it up. The downside is that these snapshots need to contain a lot of information. Dota2 replay files are much larger than SC2 replays because of that. As far as people complaining about lazy/incompetent Blizzard programmers, even minor changes can have unforeseen consequences. They're more concerned with not breaking the game then they are with getting small improvements out as fast as possible. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland24798 Posts
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Existor
Russian Federation4295 Posts
Only one problem - no changes to it. | ||
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breath
United States199 Posts
On July 27 2013 01:01 BroMalone wrote: The downside is that the replay file can't hold much information about the actual game state. For example, GGTracker can't tell you your exact army composition, it can only guess by looking at your unit selection commands. It doesn't know for sure if a unit dies, it just guesses that since you have one less marine in your control group, then a marine probably died. Another example is the screwed up build orders that SC2gears gives you. It knows you pressed the "make SCV" button, but it doesn't know if you are supply blocked or if you can actually afford the unit. So if you mash buttons it will think that you started producing 10 SCVs at once. The 2.0.8 patch added some new info to replay files that fixes some of this though. I'm the creator of Sc2ReplayStats.com and i can tell you that this "was" the case with the old replay format but with their last change in version 2.0.8 they added tracker events which include things of units being born, and killed, along with structures produced and killed. So sites like Sc2ReplayStats.com and GGtracker no longer have to guess based on selection, its a known. For me i'm super excited to see what they added to the replay files. | ||
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BroMalone
Andorra8 Posts
On July 27 2013 01:44 breath wrote: I'm the creator of Sc2ReplayStats.com and i can tell you that this "was" the case with the old replay format but with their last change in version 2.0.8 they added tracker events which include things of units being born, and killed, along with structures produced and killed. So sites like Sc2ReplayStats.com and GGtracker no longer have to guess based on selection, its a known. For me i'm super excited to see what they added to the replay files. Yea I mentioned the 2.0.8 change. Have you updated your site to use the new info? I'm not sure if GGtracker has. Hopefully 2.0.10 makes that stuff easier though. 2.0.8 was a good addition, but it's still a pain to keep track of some things. Better tracking for larva hatching, warp ins, and chronoboosts would be nice. | ||
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breath
United States199 Posts
Yea I mentioned the 2.0.8 change. Have you updated your site to use the new info? I'm not sure if GGtracker has. Hopefully 2.0.10 makes that stuff easier though. 2.0.8 was a good addition, but it's still a pain to keep track of some things. Better tracking for larva hatching, warp ins, and chronoboosts would be nice. Yes i have implemented the 2.0.8 changes on sc2replaystats, and i'm about 99% sure ggtracker has to. Any new things they add into the replay file would make me very happy | ||
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Finland98 Posts
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dsjoerg
United States384 Posts
On July 27 2013 02:25 breath wrote: Yes i have implemented the 2.0.8 changes on sc2replaystats, and i'm about 99% sure ggtracker has to. Any new things they add into the replay file would make me very happy Breath is correct, indeed GGTracker implemented the 2.0.8 changes. In fact we worked with Blizzard on it, which was fun | ||
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Austria72 Posts
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Croatia59 Posts
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Fuchsteufelswild
Australia2028 Posts
On July 27 2013 12:40 blarkh wrote: It is amazing how many people you can make mad by adding a feature they want to have. It's just people letting go of their frustration on the matter, after much voiced disapproval at the lack of such features existing from the beginning. People eventually fade out until it finally gets fixed and then when complaining, they are in a way intending to thank Blizzard for putting it in, but have a stronger desire to stick a flag in the developers' eyes, one that says "SO WHY NOT HAVE THIS FROM THE START?". It's justified. | ||
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Rainling
United States456 Posts
On July 26 2013 05:55 Killmouse wrote: so u dont have the problem that u cant view the replaye immediatley after a match? when i want to know what excatly happened last game i have to wait like 10 -15 min before i can watch it, after that time i have already lost interest in watching the replay Yeah good point, that's always annoying and I hope it gets fixed | ||
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igay
Australia1178 Posts
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Glenn313
United States475 Posts
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IeZaeL
Italy991 Posts
http://dist.blizzard.com.edgesuite.net/sc2-pod-retail/AF11CD00/NA/24621.direct/Updates/s2-0-26490-Win-final.MPQ http://dist.blizzard.com.edgesuite.net/sc2-pod-retail/AF11CD00/TW/24621.direct/Updates/base/s2-update-base-26490.MPQ http://dist.blizzard.com.edgesuite.net/sc2-pod-retail/AF11CD00/NA/24621.direct/Updates/enUS/s2-update-enUS-26490.MPQ Seems like it contains some Data editor changes , with some WC3 systems. | ||
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Existor
Russian Federation4295 Posts
New icon for Hellbat transormation upgrade ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/za6lh2P.png) | ||
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Killmouse
Austria5700 Posts
full patchnote http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/10530389/#best | ||
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R1CH
Netherlands10340 Posts
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HelloSon
United States456 Posts
On July 30 2013 07:25 R1CH wrote: So replay seeking was a big hoax, it just fast forwards while the screen is blanked out .Maybe that's what actually happens and there was no editing for that part....hopefully? | ||
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Nerski
United States1095 Posts
On July 25 2013 02:50 Zelniq wrote: i bet they still don't fix the zerg bugged egg hatching sound that happens every egg that hatches -_- this was literally the needle on the haystack that resulted in me taking a break from SC2 lol That bug is quite annoying, having to ctr+s your sound on and off fixes it but having to waste time doing that is distracting. | ||
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Nerski
United States1095 Posts
On July 30 2013 07:25 R1CH wrote: So replay seeking was a big hoax, it just fast forwards while the screen is blanked out .hopefully it's a bug? if it's intentional it's the stupidest change ever. | ||
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Killmouse
Austria5700 Posts
On July 30 2013 07:38 Nerski wrote: hopefully it's a bug? if it's intentional it's the stupidest change ever. yea its like fastforwarding *8 but with a black screen | ||
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Canada52 Posts
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BroMalone
Andorra8 Posts
You'll still be able to jump forward in the replay and it will only take a few seconds. I don't get what people are so mad about. | ||
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InfCereal
Canada1759 Posts
On July 30 2013 11:05 BroMalone wrote: It's far more effective than just running through at 8x speed. The screen goes blank so all the processing power goes towards simulating the game as fast as possible instead of spending resources on graphics. So instead of running at 8x speed it will run at 1000x speed. You'll still be able to jump forward in the replay and it will only take a few seconds. I don't get what people are so mad about. And by "all the processing power", we mean "2 cores, max". | ||
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willoc
Canada1530 Posts
On July 30 2013 07:25 R1CH wrote: So replay seeking was a big hoax, it just fast forwards while the screen is blanked out .Called it Seriously though, this is the most elegant solution for how they store replays. They would have to store their replays in a different format to make something better. | ||
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