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I'm gonna not worry about it and instead just watch a ton of VODs after and enjoy the ESL world finals in Germany  Minority fightiinnnngggg~!
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Not sure it helps us in the long run if we try to find a free weekend so we can boost the viewer numbers with loads of people who are watching sc2 just beause there is nothing else on. In the future there will always be a conflict with one of the big games anyways. If a portion of the stream numbers have sc2 as 2, 3, 4 on the list of games then so be it. Why kid our selfs? For me sc2 is n1 but I accept that not everyone feels the same.
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They need an alternative stream to twitch, serious.
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On July 24 2013 06:33 Fjodorov wrote:
Not sure it helps us in the long run if we try to find a free weekend so we can boost the viewer numbers with loads of people who are watching sc2 just beause there is nothing else on. In the future there will always be a conflict with one of the big games anyways. If a portion of the stream numbers have sc2 as 2, 3, 4 on the list of games then so be it. Why kid our selfs? For me sc2 is n1 but I accept that not everyone feels the same.
As said so many times in this thread: it's not about just another tournament, it's about the biggest esport event in history...
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later to this. But I don't get this hate thing. Is there really a considerable number of overlapped audience? What's the conflict?
My only complain is that I need to stay wake all days for 3 events.
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I find it hilarious that Riot manages to avoid schedule overlaps and yet Blizzard is the one giving excuses. This is further proof how rushed the entire WCS is. Blizzard can't even get their own 3 regions to run on a same cohesive timeline ffs
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On July 24 2013 06:52 xPliCt wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 06:33 Fjodorov wrote:
Not sure it helps us in the long run if we try to find a free weekend so we can boost the viewer numbers with loads of people who are watching sc2 just beause there is nothing else on. In the future there will always be a conflict with one of the big games anyways. If a portion of the stream numbers have sc2 as 2, 3, 4 on the list of games then so be it. Why kid our selfs? For me sc2 is n1 but I accept that not everyone feels the same. As said so many times in this thread: it's not about just another tournament, it's about the biggest esport event in history...
It's the biggest MOBA event in history. What's does that got to be with Starcraft. Do most sc2 fan watch Dota2 or lol, like ever?
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On July 24 2013 07:38 Baroninthetree wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 06:52 xPliCt wrote:On July 24 2013 06:33 Fjodorov wrote:
Not sure it helps us in the long run if we try to find a free weekend so we can boost the viewer numbers with loads of people who are watching sc2 just beause there is nothing else on. In the future there will always be a conflict with one of the big games anyways. If a portion of the stream numbers have sc2 as 2, 3, 4 on the list of games then so be it. Why kid our selfs? For me sc2 is n1 but I accept that not everyone feels the same. As said so many times in this thread: it's not about just another tournament, it's about the biggest esport event in history... It's the biggest MOBA event in history. What's does that got to be with Starcraft. Do most sc2 fan watch Dota2 or lol, like ever?
Especially with it's WC3 background Dota has a lot of people that also play/follow starcraft. Also you have many people that follow a lot of esport in generel. Both these groups are huge in my opinion and when you have the choice i think (as it was stated a lot in this thread) people that have the slightest interest in dota will watch TI3 cause it's the biggest thing in esport
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On July 24 2013 07:38 Baroninthetree wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 06:52 xPliCt wrote:On July 24 2013 06:33 Fjodorov wrote:
Not sure it helps us in the long run if we try to find a free weekend so we can boost the viewer numbers with loads of people who are watching sc2 just beause there is nothing else on. In the future there will always be a conflict with one of the big games anyways. If a portion of the stream numbers have sc2 as 2, 3, 4 on the list of games then so be it. Why kid our selfs? For me sc2 is n1 but I accept that not everyone feels the same. As said so many times in this thread: it's not about just another tournament, it's about the biggest esport event in history... It's the biggest MOBA event in history. What's does that got to be with Starcraft. Do most sc2 fan watch Dota2 or lol, like ever?
It's a spectacle. Most people who won't normally watch Dota2 will watch The International due to the hype and gigantic prize pool. That's like asking why people watch the Super Bowl when they don't even like the NFL or know what is going on.
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There are people here still arguing that TI3 is not the biggest esport event ever. The prize pool is $2.6 million. Theres nothing more to be said.
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Well I will watch Dota2 ofc and I support SC2 the only way that exists. I run a World of Warcraft subscription and with this I do more for WCS than they actually deserve. And I believe I do more to help SC2 eSport than all the stream viewers.
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Sigh. Yea this is awful for the scene and Blizz is fucking up, no one will deny that. But then TB comes out of nowhere blubbering and shouting, absolutism, etc and embarrasses himself again.
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On July 24 2013 07:42 xPliCt wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 07:38 Baroninthetree wrote:On July 24 2013 06:52 xPliCt wrote:On July 24 2013 06:33 Fjodorov wrote:
Not sure it helps us in the long run if we try to find a free weekend so we can boost the viewer numbers with loads of people who are watching sc2 just beause there is nothing else on. In the future there will always be a conflict with one of the big games anyways. If a portion of the stream numbers have sc2 as 2, 3, 4 on the list of games then so be it. Why kid our selfs? For me sc2 is n1 but I accept that not everyone feels the same. As said so many times in this thread: it's not about just another tournament, it's about the biggest esport event in history... It's the biggest MOBA event in history. What's does that got to be with Starcraft. Do most sc2 fan watch Dota2 or lol, like ever? Especially with it's WC3 background Dota has a lot of people that also play/follow starcraft. Also you have many people that follow a lot of esport in generel. Both these groups are huge in my opinion and when you have the choice i think (as it was stated a lot in this thread) people that have the slightest interest in dota will watch TI3 cause it's the biggest thing in esport
Warcraft 3 esports fans were never big fans of dota in general. I guess you are talking about people that just played custom games.
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On July 24 2013 08:42 Eury wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 07:42 xPliCt wrote:On July 24 2013 07:38 Baroninthetree wrote:On July 24 2013 06:52 xPliCt wrote:On July 24 2013 06:33 Fjodorov wrote:
Not sure it helps us in the long run if we try to find a free weekend so we can boost the viewer numbers with loads of people who are watching sc2 just beause there is nothing else on. In the future there will always be a conflict with one of the big games anyways. If a portion of the stream numbers have sc2 as 2, 3, 4 on the list of games then so be it. Why kid our selfs? For me sc2 is n1 but I accept that not everyone feels the same. As said so many times in this thread: it's not about just another tournament, it's about the biggest esport event in history... It's the biggest MOBA event in history. What's does that got to be with Starcraft. Do most sc2 fan watch Dota2 or lol, like ever? Especially with it's WC3 background Dota has a lot of people that also play/follow starcraft. Also you have many people that follow a lot of esport in generel. Both these groups are huge in my opinion and when you have the choice i think (as it was stated a lot in this thread) people that have the slightest interest in dota will watch TI3 cause it's the biggest thing in esport Warcraft 3 esports fans were never big fans of dota in general. I guess you are talking about people that just played custom games.
The most of them played it at least with friends from time to time, so they know the game. Taking into consideration that this is the biggest shit ever i think most of them will also watch it
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On July 24 2013 07:42 xPliCt wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 07:38 Baroninthetree wrote:On July 24 2013 06:52 xPliCt wrote:On July 24 2013 06:33 Fjodorov wrote:
Not sure it helps us in the long run if we try to find a free weekend so we can boost the viewer numbers with loads of people who are watching sc2 just beause there is nothing else on. In the future there will always be a conflict with one of the big games anyways. If a portion of the stream numbers have sc2 as 2, 3, 4 on the list of games then so be it. Why kid our selfs? For me sc2 is n1 but I accept that not everyone feels the same. As said so many times in this thread: it's not about just another tournament, it's about the biggest esport event in history... It's the biggest MOBA event in history. What's does that got to be with Starcraft. Do most sc2 fan watch Dota2 or lol, like ever? Especially with it's WC3 background Dota has a lot of people that also play/follow starcraft. Also you have many people that follow a lot of esport in generel. Both these groups are huge in my opinion and when you have the choice i think (as it was stated a lot in this thread) people that have the slightest interest in dota will watch TI3 cause it's the biggest thing in esport
I get the point.
But i doubt the number of overlapped audience can be significant. I myself only follow at least same kind of game, like SC1, War3, SC2. Then again, it's only me. Maybe there indeed are many people following both.
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On July 24 2013 06:44 Spectreman wrote:
They need an alternative stream to twitch, serious.
TI3 will be free to watch ingame and will be streamed on Youtube. Twitch will be strained, but I don't think it'll flat out die. Not unless there's Jaedong v Bogus and Na'Vi vs Alliance going on at the same time, anyway.
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I am sad as an ex-SC2 fan ~
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On July 24 2013 10:58 Baroninthetree wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 07:42 xPliCt wrote:On July 24 2013 07:38 Baroninthetree wrote:On July 24 2013 06:52 xPliCt wrote:On July 24 2013 06:33 Fjodorov wrote:
Not sure it helps us in the long run if we try to find a free weekend so we can boost the viewer numbers with loads of people who are watching sc2 just beause there is nothing else on. In the future there will always be a conflict with one of the big games anyways. If a portion of the stream numbers have sc2 as 2, 3, 4 on the list of games then so be it. Why kid our selfs? For me sc2 is n1 but I accept that not everyone feels the same. As said so many times in this thread: it's not about just another tournament, it's about the biggest esport event in history... It's the biggest MOBA event in history. What's does that got to be with Starcraft. Do most sc2 fan watch Dota2 or lol, like ever? Especially with it's WC3 background Dota has a lot of people that also play/follow starcraft. Also you have many people that follow a lot of esport in generel. Both these groups are huge in my opinion and when you have the choice i think (as it was stated a lot in this thread) people that have the slightest interest in dota will watch TI3 cause it's the biggest thing in esport I get the point. But i doubt the number of overlapped audience can be significant. I myself only follow at least same kind of game, like SC1, War3, SC2. Then again, it's only me. Maybe there indeed are many people following both.
On July 24 2013 11:08 Daralii wrote:
TI3 will be free to watch ingame and will be streamed on Youtube. Twitch will be strained, but I don't think it'll flat out die. Not unless there's Jaedong v Bogus and Na'Vi vs Alliance going on at the same time, anyway.
Just an example of a person following both. There is a reason teamliquid decided to cover DotA 2 in particular. Sc2 got me into e-sports, DotA 2 is a big reason i'm staying. I still watch a lot more sc2 than dota but for me The International will always be the most exciting thing of the year for a lot of reasons. Yes the pricepool is an important part but also the fact that I had the chance to contribute 2,50$ to it.
Edit: my point; The overlapping might be a lot more significant than some people might think.
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On July 24 2013 07:38 Baroninthetree wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 06:52 xPliCt wrote:On July 24 2013 06:33 Fjodorov wrote:
Not sure it helps us in the long run if we try to find a free weekend so we can boost the viewer numbers with loads of people who are watching sc2 just beause there is nothing else on. In the future there will always be a conflict with one of the big games anyways. If a portion of the stream numbers have sc2 as 2, 3, 4 on the list of games then so be it. Why kid our selfs? For me sc2 is n1 but I accept that not everyone feels the same. As said so many times in this thread: it's not about just another tournament, it's about the biggest esport event in history... It's the biggest MOBA event in history. What's does that got to be with Starcraft. Do most sc2 fan watch Dota2 or lol, like ever?
I play SC2 and LoL, and am subscribed to the ogn lol, proleague, and osl channels. Never played a game of Dota in my life but I watched all of TI2 last year and I will watch it again this year regardless of what SC2 or LoL is at the same time
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On July 24 2013 11:23 MrKn4rz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 10:58 Baroninthetree wrote:On July 24 2013 07:42 xPliCt wrote:On July 24 2013 07:38 Baroninthetree wrote:On July 24 2013 06:52 xPliCt wrote:On July 24 2013 06:33 Fjodorov wrote:
Not sure it helps us in the long run if we try to find a free weekend so we can boost the viewer numbers with loads of people who are watching sc2 just beause there is nothing else on. In the future there will always be a conflict with one of the big games anyways. If a portion of the stream numbers have sc2 as 2, 3, 4 on the list of games then so be it. Why kid our selfs? For me sc2 is n1 but I accept that not everyone feels the same. As said so many times in this thread: it's not about just another tournament, it's about the biggest esport event in history... It's the biggest MOBA event in history. What's does that got to be with Starcraft. Do most sc2 fan watch Dota2 or lol, like ever? Especially with it's WC3 background Dota has a lot of people that also play/follow starcraft. Also you have many people that follow a lot of esport in generel. Both these groups are huge in my opinion and when you have the choice i think (as it was stated a lot in this thread) people that have the slightest interest in dota will watch TI3 cause it's the biggest thing in esport I get the point. But i doubt the number of overlapped audience can be significant. I myself only follow at least same kind of game, like SC1, War3, SC2. Then again, it's only me. Maybe there indeed are many people following both. Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 11:08 Daralii wrote:
TI3 will be free to watch ingame and will be streamed on Youtube. Twitch will be strained, but I don't think it'll flat out die. Not unless there's Jaedong v Bogus and Na'Vi vs Alliance going on at the same time, anyway. Just an example of a person following both. There is a reason teamliquid decided to cover DotA 2 in particular. Sc2 got me into e-sports, DotA 2 is a big reason i'm staying. I still watch a lot more sc2 than dota but for me The International will always be the most exciting thing of the year for a lot of reasons. Yes the pricepool is an important part but also the fact that I had the chance to contribute 2,50$ to it. Edit: my point; The overlapping might be a lot more significant than some people might think.
Only WCS NA will have big overlap with TI3. If you want to watch WCS EU and KR, you should still be able to watch the large majority of it since they're gonna be in different timezone.
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