• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 17:29
CET 23:29
KST 07:29
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 100SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1819Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises3Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !11
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Starcraft 2 Zerg Coach ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship WardiTV Mondays $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play
Brood War
General
A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone I would like to say something about StarCraft StarCraft & BroodWar Campaign Speedrun Quest BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ (UMS) SWITCHEROO *New* /Destination Edit/
Tourneys
SLON Grand Finals – Season 2 [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Elden Ring Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI 12 Days of Starcraft
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced
Blogs
National Diversity: A Challe…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 877 users

WCS Season 2 Regional League Finals Dates - Page 40

Forum Index > SC2 General
807 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 38 39 40 41 Next All
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 24 2013 18:37 GMT
#781
On July 25 2013 03:35 KawaiiRice wrote:
blizzard makes me ashamed to call myself a sc2 player

That good old dog pile, just keep it coming.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
LimeNade
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2125 Posts
July 24 2013 19:01 GMT
#782
Can't really say I am surprised though by this. Seems like a normal decision by blizzard these days so I am not phased. At least when I am awake during that weekend I can catch high level starcraft 2 games whenever I want.
JD, need I say more? :D
hesho89
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada106 Posts
July 24 2013 19:04 GMT
#783
i am curious how this will effect the viewership. I am pretty sure it will fall but by how much.....
eh?
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
July 24 2013 19:07 GMT
#784
Is this supposed to be legit? I don't even..
dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
July 24 2013 19:29 GMT
#785


TotalBiscuit's thoughts on the matter. He sounds pretty pissed from the perspective of a team owner.
You should not have to pay to watch the GSL, Proleague, or OSL at a reasonable time. That is not "fine" and it's BS to say otherwise. My sig since 2011. http://www.youtube.com/user/dabom88
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
July 24 2013 19:40 GMT
#786
The seeds for this scheduling debacle were planted during the paradox that was the both rushed and late introduction of the current WCS system this year. Additionally annoying is the way this was announced. They must've known that people were going to be upset about this so why wait for the negative feedback and not ad the reasons for the unfortunate scheduling to the announcement immediately? Nah just " we're pleased to announce" and later say things like " it's nearly impossible to avoid all conflicts". It's insulting really. It sucks if this turned out to be unavoidable at the end but that doesn't mean that you shouldn't take responsibility for it; It's YOUR fuck up.

It's the same reason why MLG gets more hate than other tournament organizers I feel; They've done this a couple of times too, in the past. Don't treat your audience this way; It will affect the image people have of you negatively. In other words: It's bad PR.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Nymzee
Profile Joined June 2013
3929 Posts
July 24 2013 19:40 GMT
#787
Blizzard are allowed to do as they please, not sure why people would think otherwise. Is it arrogant? Sure. Is it annoying for spectators? Sure. Is it bad for sponsors? Sure. Can Blizzard do as they like though? Sure, and they did. Be angry but don't expect things to change: this is Blizzard, they're stubborn.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10134 Posts
July 24 2013 19:42 GMT
#788
On July 25 2013 04:40 Nymzee wrote:
Blizzard are allowed to do as they please, not sure why people would think otherwise. Is it arrogant? Sure. Is it annoying for spectators? Sure. Is it bad for sponsors? Sure. Can Blizzard do as they like though? Sure, and they did. Be angry but don't expect things to change: this is Blizzard, they're stubborn.

People would think that blizzard has two alive braincells.
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-24 19:57:49
July 24 2013 19:54 GMT
#789
I just think it's amusing this was all done "so they could finish in time to do the big final event at gamescom".

The International is hosted in a Symphony Hall. The LoL World Finals are hosted in the Staples Center.

WCS is just getting blown out of the water by both of these events, and they'll be competing with the LoL EU Playoffs at gamescom (as well as the trade fair in general for a live audience).

The planning here was just so weak - even if their hands are tied at this point, how did they let it get this bad?
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
July 24 2013 20:16 GMT
#790
WCS is not that interesting or fun to begin with. I can barely remember the last WCS finals and it was only a few months ago.
Gr33d
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany423 Posts
July 24 2013 20:17 GMT
#791
Oh no, a DOTA2 event I will not watch is streamed during WCS. The shock, the horror. I also pray for the poor souls that want to watch both at the same time. Maybe in the year 2055 when its possible to own two monitors or watch two internet streams at the same time they will find comfort.
A good thing for the professional youtube dramaqueens though.
Fanatics find their heaven in never ending storming wind || Auguries of destruction be a lullaby for rebirth
xuanzue
Profile Joined October 2010
Colombia1747 Posts
July 24 2013 20:21 GMT
#792
so much meaningless drama.

I remember TI2, I didn't play dota 1 year ago, and seeing the tournament was pretty boring at that time. mobas are not spectator friendly, you need to play to understand wtf is happening in the screen. on the other hand RTS's are one army vs another. simply to understand.

now I play dota2, and sure i will see some games in TI3, but not all of them. why is people here assuming that every sc2 spectator will be all the weekend watching TI3 nonstop?

I like the idea of watch wcs europe finals and the wcs america finals.
Dominions 4: "Thrones of Ascension".
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
July 24 2013 20:23 GMT
#793
On July 25 2013 05:17 Gr33d wrote:
Oh no, a DOTA2 event I will not watch is streamed during WCS. The shock, the horror. I also pray for the poor souls that want to watch both at the same time. Maybe in the year 2055 when its possible to own two monitors or watch two internet streams at the same time they will find comfort.
A good thing for the professional youtube dramaqueens though.


Can't wait for you to start crying when Twitch caves in under the sheer amount of viewers, especially since you live in Germany!

:D :D :D
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
July 24 2013 20:27 GMT
#794
And here I was, wondering what to do with the good ´ol pitchfork of mine. Got some hatin´ to do now!
poboxy
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada48 Posts
July 24 2013 20:30 GMT
#795
I guess I'll just watch the Korea's finals and call it a day, not interested in Dota2 and not interested to waste the rest of the week-end with EU/US finals.
Gr33d
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany423 Posts
July 24 2013 20:32 GMT
#796
On July 25 2013 05:23 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Can't wait for you to start crying when Twitch caves in under the sheer amount of viewers, especially since you live in Germany!

:D :D :D


During a weekend when the bundesliga finally starts again? Mmmh.. let me think about it.. NOPE. Its not like it would actually run very smooth if no other event is played at the same time too.

PS: :D :D :D
Fanatics find their heaven in never ending storming wind || Auguries of destruction be a lullaby for rebirth
poboxy
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada48 Posts
July 24 2013 20:33 GMT
#797
On July 25 2013 05:17 Gr33d wrote:
Oh no, a DOTA2 event I will not watch is streamed during WCS. The shock, the horror. I also pray for the poor souls that want to watch both at the same time. Maybe in the year 2055 when its possible to own two monitors or watch two internet streams at the same time they will find comfort.
A good thing for the professional youtube dramaqueens though.


The problem is that all the community wants SC2 to get bigger and that happens by having more people watching it, but with this stunt Blizzard is working hard to minimize the numbers of viewers which ultimately will hurt SC2 as an esport.
Azurues
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia5612 Posts
July 24 2013 20:34 GMT
#798
This is beyond stupid

Twitch will explode on the day itself
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 24 2013 20:36 GMT
#799
On July 25 2013 05:33 poboxy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 05:17 Gr33d wrote:
Oh no, a DOTA2 event I will not watch is streamed during WCS. The shock, the horror. I also pray for the poor souls that want to watch both at the same time. Maybe in the year 2055 when its possible to own two monitors or watch two internet streams at the same time they will find comfort.
A good thing for the professional youtube dramaqueens though.


The problem is that all the community wants SC2 to get bigger and that happens by having more people watching it, but with this stunt Blizzard is working hard to minimize the numbers of viewers which ultimately will hurt SC2 as an esport.

The numbers will likely not be as terrible as people think and it is just the regional finals for a single season of WCS. Its not like they set Blizzcon for the same weekend at TI3.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
July 24 2013 21:05 GMT
#800
On July 25 2013 05:36 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 05:33 poboxy wrote:
On July 25 2013 05:17 Gr33d wrote:
Oh no, a DOTA2 event I will not watch is streamed during WCS. The shock, the horror. I also pray for the poor souls that want to watch both at the same time. Maybe in the year 2055 when its possible to own two monitors or watch two internet streams at the same time they will find comfort.
A good thing for the professional youtube dramaqueens though.


The problem is that all the community wants SC2 to get bigger and that happens by having more people watching it, but with this stunt Blizzard is working hard to minimize the numbers of viewers which ultimately will hurt SC2 as an esport.

The numbers will likely not be as terrible as people think and it is just the regional finals for a single season of WCS. Its not like they set Blizzcon for the same weekend at TI3.


WCS Eu was pretty big though, if this season's numbers are significantly lower than last season I personally will be really disappointed.
Prev 1 38 39 40 41 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
The PiG Daily
21:00
Best Games of SC
Reynor vs Clem
MaxPax vs TBD
SHIN vs TBD
Rogue vs TBD
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft543
ProTech135
UpATreeSC 92
Railgan 47
SC2Nice 45
StarCraft: Brood War
Mini 135
Shuttle 76
firebathero 67
Killer 32
Sexy 30
JYJ 22
yabsab 12
Dota 2
syndereN467
XaKoH 362
canceldota68
League of Legends
C9.Mang0225
Counter-Strike
pashabiceps2402
Other Games
Grubby5241
tarik_tv4432
FrodaN2110
Beastyqt873
fl0m511
B2W.Neo336
Liquid`Hasu297
ArmadaUGS209
Livibee84
KnowMe47
PPMD47
ZombieGrub44
Organizations
StarCraft 2
angryscii 30
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• kabyraGe 168
• davetesta26
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki28
• RayReign 9
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift438
Other Games
• imaqtpie3369
• WagamamaTV422
• Shiphtur336
• tFFMrPink 18
Upcoming Events
Korean StarCraft League
4h 31m
OSC
13h 31m
IPSL
18h 31m
Dewalt vs Bonyth
OSC
19h 31m
OSC
1d 13h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 15h
Replay Cast
2 days
RotterdaM Event
2 days
Patches Events
2 days
OSC
3 days
[ Show More ]
OSC
4 days
OSC
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

C-Race Season 1
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
Escore Tournament S1: W2
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Escore Tournament S1: W3
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
Underdog Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.