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On July 24 2013 02:51 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 02:51 Pazuzu wrote:
No I'm claiming that over the course of the thread, general consensus has escalated from "blizz made a mistake, get your stuff together" which is productive and necessary for Blizz to hear (which I don't think anyone is contesting), to an inappropriate level of anger which is no longer productive. What did you expect? The people who made their points have already stopped posting, leaving only either sides extremists to fight it out.
Precisely.
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On July 24 2013 03:58 AgentW wrote:
TB, I agree with you that we should all be furious (I'm certainly not happy about it) and it will be extremely detrimental to SC2, but what do you propose as a solution then? ASUS ROG is the week before, and I don't know what's coming up afterward (not Dreamhack, nor MLG but I dunno about IEM after this weekend), and they still have to get through another season before the grand final at Blizzcon. How do they fit in a whole other season while changing the date?
Well actually nothing is coming up afterward. Not even gamescom, there is a completely empty week between TI3 and Season 3 global finals. And since last global finals was just one week after US regional finals it cant be too short of a timeframe either.
Im usually the guy trying to find reason behind blizzards decisions but with this one i really cant find any justification besides this year WCS being too rushed and hence sloppy.
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On July 24 2013 04:13 rename wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 03:58 AgentW wrote:
TB, I agree with you that we should all be furious (I'm certainly not happy about it) and it will be extremely detrimental to SC2, but what do you propose as a solution then? ASUS ROG is the week before, and I don't know what's coming up afterward (not Dreamhack, nor MLG but I dunno about IEM after this weekend), and they still have to get through another season before the grand final at Blizzcon. How do they fit in a whole other season while changing the date? Well actually nothing is coming up afterward. Not even gamescom, there is a completely empty week between TI3 and Season 3 global finals. And since last global finals was just one week after US regional finals it cant be too short of a timeframe either. Im usually the guy trying to find reason behind blizzards decisions but with this one i really cant find any justification besides this year WCS being too rushed and hence sloppy.
If that's the case, and I don't see anything to the contrary, this decision is even more stupid than I thought.
EDIT: Doesn't say much, but nothing on TL's calendar or the front page of Liquipedia. IEM shouldn't be that soon, and Dreamhack, Asus, and MLG are definitely not going to be then. What the hell...
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On July 24 2013 04:00 grs wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 03:54 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 24 2013 03:52 grs wrote:
Quality reasoning: "Everyone with a different opinion is an idiot". Can you imagine that people don't care for this e-sports/business side of gaming? Sure I would like to have the events on different weekends to be able to see more, but it simply does not bother me that much. I have no stocks in esport; I like to watch the games and whether dota/lol/sc have x amount of viewers does not bother me at all.
Turns out that not every argument has two equally valid sides to it. If you don't care about X Y and Z then stop talking, your opinion isn't useful. The damage this will do is an objective fact that is inescapable, how much it affects you is not relevant. Whether my opinion is useful or not, is not yours to judge. Maybe I did not get the memo that made you dictator over all opinions on all gaming related issues, but until that time, my opinion is as valid as yours.
Your very own post basically said "i don't care", so why should your opinion matter? You're going to watch or not watch WCS either way, so why not let the people who DO care to see the eSport go one way and not the other express theirs?
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On July 24 2013 04:15 snarl wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 04:00 grs wrote:On July 24 2013 03:54 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 24 2013 03:52 grs wrote:
Quality reasoning: "Everyone with a different opinion is an idiot". Can you imagine that people don't care for this e-sports/business side of gaming? Sure I would like to have the events on different weekends to be able to see more, but it simply does not bother me that much. I have no stocks in esport; I like to watch the games and whether dota/lol/sc have x amount of viewers does not bother me at all.
Turns out that not every argument has two equally valid sides to it. If you don't care about X Y and Z then stop talking, your opinion isn't useful. The damage this will do is an objective fact that is inescapable, how much it affects you is not relevant. Whether my opinion is useful or not, is not yours to judge. Maybe I did not get the memo that made you dictator over all opinions on all gaming related issues, but until that time, my opinion is as valid as yours. Your very own post basically said "i don't care", so why should your opinion matter? You're going to watch or not watch WCS either way, so why not let the people who DO care to see the eSport go one way and not the other express theirs?
So opinions only matter if they are against something and the more against something they are and the louder the complaints are, the more valid and important they are? I don't think so.
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On July 24 2013 04:15 AgentW wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 04:13 rename wrote:On July 24 2013 03:58 AgentW wrote:
TB, I agree with you that we should all be furious (I'm certainly not happy about it) and it will be extremely detrimental to SC2, but what do you propose as a solution then? ASUS ROG is the week before, and I don't know what's coming up afterward (not Dreamhack, nor MLG but I dunno about IEM after this weekend), and they still have to get through another season before the grand final at Blizzcon. How do they fit in a whole other season while changing the date? Well actually nothing is coming up afterward. Not even gamescom, there is a completely empty week between TI3 and Season 3 global finals. And since last global finals was just one week after US regional finals it cant be too short of a timeframe either. Im usually the guy trying to find reason behind blizzards decisions but with this one i really cant find any justification besides this year WCS being too rushed and hence sloppy. If that's the case, and I don't see anything to the contrary, this decision is even more stupid than I thought. EDIT: Doesn't say much, but nothing on TL's calendar or the front page of Liquipedia. IEM shouldn't be that soon, and Dreamhack, Asus, and MLG are definitely not going to be then. What the hell...
NASL is running the world of tanks finals that next weekend, so they won't be free. That means at least NA has to happen. I don't know what ESL is doing, but they might want more than a week to prepare for Gamescon, since they do run the LSC during the week.
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On July 24 2013 04:19 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 04:15 AgentW wrote:On July 24 2013 04:13 rename wrote:On July 24 2013 03:58 AgentW wrote:
TB, I agree with you that we should all be furious (I'm certainly not happy about it) and it will be extremely detrimental to SC2, but what do you propose as a solution then? ASUS ROG is the week before, and I don't know what's coming up afterward (not Dreamhack, nor MLG but I dunno about IEM after this weekend), and they still have to get through another season before the grand final at Blizzcon. How do they fit in a whole other season while changing the date? Well actually nothing is coming up afterward. Not even gamescom, there is a completely empty week between TI3 and Season 3 global finals. And since last global finals was just one week after US regional finals it cant be too short of a timeframe either. Im usually the guy trying to find reason behind blizzards decisions but with this one i really cant find any justification besides this year WCS being too rushed and hence sloppy. If that's the case, and I don't see anything to the contrary, this decision is even more stupid than I thought. EDIT: Doesn't say much, but nothing on TL's calendar or the front page of Liquipedia. IEM shouldn't be that soon, and Dreamhack, Asus, and MLG are definitely not going to be then. What the hell... NASL is running the world of tanks finals that next weekend, so they won't be free. That means at least NA has to happen. I don't know what ESL is doing, but they might want more than a week to prepare for Gamescon, since they do run the LSC during the week.
Accepting that EU and AM can't do it, why not let KR go later? I consider myself a huge SC2 fan, but I can't watch 20 hours of SC2 in a day due to a combination of fatigue and commitments, at worst ease it to 13 hours or something.
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On July 24 2013 04:13 rename wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 03:58 AgentW wrote:
TB, I agree with you that we should all be furious (I'm certainly not happy about it) and it will be extremely detrimental to SC2, but what do you propose as a solution then? ASUS ROG is the week before, and I don't know what's coming up afterward (not Dreamhack, nor MLG but I dunno about IEM after this weekend), and they still have to get through another season before the grand final at Blizzcon. How do they fit in a whole other season while changing the date? Well actually nothing is coming up afterward. Not even gamescom, there is a completely empty week between TI3 and Season 3 global finals. And since last global finals was just one week after US regional finals it cant be too short of a timeframe either. Im usually the guy trying to find reason behind blizzards decisions but with this one i really cant find any justification besides this year WCS being too rushed and hence sloppy.
That would be 17- 18 Aug. Gamescom starts at the 23. August. I don't think 4 days is enough for the teams to sort out visas and flights. The only thing you could do it is probably WCS EU but the time would also be very short.
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On July 24 2013 04:21 AgentW wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 04:19 Plansix wrote:On July 24 2013 04:15 AgentW wrote:On July 24 2013 04:13 rename wrote:On July 24 2013 03:58 AgentW wrote:
TB, I agree with you that we should all be furious (I'm certainly not happy about it) and it will be extremely detrimental to SC2, but what do you propose as a solution then? ASUS ROG is the week before, and I don't know what's coming up afterward (not Dreamhack, nor MLG but I dunno about IEM after this weekend), and they still have to get through another season before the grand final at Blizzcon. How do they fit in a whole other season while changing the date? Well actually nothing is coming up afterward. Not even gamescom, there is a completely empty week between TI3 and Season 3 global finals. And since last global finals was just one week after US regional finals it cant be too short of a timeframe either. Im usually the guy trying to find reason behind blizzards decisions but with this one i really cant find any justification besides this year WCS being too rushed and hence sloppy. If that's the case, and I don't see anything to the contrary, this decision is even more stupid than I thought. EDIT: Doesn't say much, but nothing on TL's calendar or the front page of Liquipedia. IEM shouldn't be that soon, and Dreamhack, Asus, and MLG are definitely not going to be then. What the hell... NASL is running the world of tanks finals that next weekend, so they won't be free. That means at least NA has to happen. I don't know what ESL is doing, but they might want more than a week to prepare for Gamescon, since they do run the LSC during the week. Accepting that EU and AM can't do it, why not let KR go later? I consider myself a huge SC2 fan, but I can't watch 20 hours of SC2 in a day due to a combination of fatigue and commitments, at worst ease it to 13 hours or something.
I checked GOM's(I think they are doing the finals) calendar and I think they are running world of tanks stuff that weekend too.
On July 24 2013 04:23 Uracil wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 04:13 rename wrote:On July 24 2013 03:58 AgentW wrote:
TB, I agree with you that we should all be furious (I'm certainly not happy about it) and it will be extremely detrimental to SC2, but what do you propose as a solution then? ASUS ROG is the week before, and I don't know what's coming up afterward (not Dreamhack, nor MLG but I dunno about IEM after this weekend), and they still have to get through another season before the grand final at Blizzcon. How do they fit in a whole other season while changing the date? Well actually nothing is coming up afterward. Not even gamescom, there is a completely empty week between TI3 and Season 3 global finals. And since last global finals was just one week after US regional finals it cant be too short of a timeframe either. Im usually the guy trying to find reason behind blizzards decisions but with this one i really cant find any justification besides this year WCS being too rushed and hence sloppy. That would be 17- 18 Aug. Gamescom starts at the 23. August. I don't think 4 days is enough for the teams to sort out visas and flights. The only thing you could do it is probably WCS EU but the time would also be very short.
Also, this guy. No one should ever be forced to buy a plane ticket with 4 days notice. It is pure suffering.
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On July 24 2013 04:24 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 04:21 AgentW wrote:On July 24 2013 04:19 Plansix wrote:On July 24 2013 04:15 AgentW wrote:On July 24 2013 04:13 rename wrote:On July 24 2013 03:58 AgentW wrote:
TB, I agree with you that we should all be furious (I'm certainly not happy about it) and it will be extremely detrimental to SC2, but what do you propose as a solution then? ASUS ROG is the week before, and I don't know what's coming up afterward (not Dreamhack, nor MLG but I dunno about IEM after this weekend), and they still have to get through another season before the grand final at Blizzcon. How do they fit in a whole other season while changing the date? Well actually nothing is coming up afterward. Not even gamescom, there is a completely empty week between TI3 and Season 3 global finals. And since last global finals was just one week after US regional finals it cant be too short of a timeframe either. Im usually the guy trying to find reason behind blizzards decisions but with this one i really cant find any justification besides this year WCS being too rushed and hence sloppy. If that's the case, and I don't see anything to the contrary, this decision is even more stupid than I thought. EDIT: Doesn't say much, but nothing on TL's calendar or the front page of Liquipedia. IEM shouldn't be that soon, and Dreamhack, Asus, and MLG are definitely not going to be then. What the hell... NASL is running the world of tanks finals that next weekend, so they won't be free. That means at least NA has to happen. I don't know what ESL is doing, but they might want more than a week to prepare for Gamescon, since they do run the LSC during the week. Accepting that EU and AM can't do it, why not let KR go later? I consider myself a huge SC2 fan, but I can't watch 20 hours of SC2 in a day due to a combination of fatigue and commitments, at worst ease it to 13 hours or something. I checked GOM's(I think they are doing the finals) calendar and I think they are running world of tanks stuff that weekend too.
Okay, so it's as I thought when the news broke yesterday: horribly organized leading to unfortunate scheduling.
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On July 24 2013 04:19 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 04:15 AgentW wrote:On July 24 2013 04:13 rename wrote:On July 24 2013 03:58 AgentW wrote:
TB, I agree with you that we should all be furious (I'm certainly not happy about it) and it will be extremely detrimental to SC2, but what do you propose as a solution then? ASUS ROG is the week before, and I don't know what's coming up afterward (not Dreamhack, nor MLG but I dunno about IEM after this weekend), and they still have to get through another season before the grand final at Blizzcon. How do they fit in a whole other season while changing the date? Well actually nothing is coming up afterward. Not even gamescom, there is a completely empty week between TI3 and Season 3 global finals. And since last global finals was just one week after US regional finals it cant be too short of a timeframe either. Im usually the guy trying to find reason behind blizzards decisions but with this one i really cant find any justification besides this year WCS being too rushed and hence sloppy. If that's the case, and I don't see anything to the contrary, this decision is even more stupid than I thought. EDIT: Doesn't say much, but nothing on TL's calendar or the front page of Liquipedia. IEM shouldn't be that soon, and Dreamhack, Asus, and MLG are definitely not going to be then. What the hell... NASL is running the world of tanks finals that next weekend, so they won't be free. That means at least NA has to happen. I don't know what ESL is doing, but they might want more than a week to prepare for Gamescon, since they do run the LSC during the week.
OK, there you have it - world of tanks is the root of all evil in esports.
I bet thats why tasteless lost his passion too - he went to see a witch that prophecied he will be casting world of tanks one day.
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On July 24 2013 04:25 AgentW wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 04:24 Plansix wrote:On July 24 2013 04:21 AgentW wrote:On July 24 2013 04:19 Plansix wrote:On July 24 2013 04:15 AgentW wrote:On July 24 2013 04:13 rename wrote:On July 24 2013 03:58 AgentW wrote:
TB, I agree with you that we should all be furious (I'm certainly not happy about it) and it will be extremely detrimental to SC2, but what do you propose as a solution then? ASUS ROG is the week before, and I don't know what's coming up afterward (not Dreamhack, nor MLG but I dunno about IEM after this weekend), and they still have to get through another season before the grand final at Blizzcon. How do they fit in a whole other season while changing the date? Well actually nothing is coming up afterward. Not even gamescom, there is a completely empty week between TI3 and Season 3 global finals. And since last global finals was just one week after US regional finals it cant be too short of a timeframe either. Im usually the guy trying to find reason behind blizzards decisions but with this one i really cant find any justification besides this year WCS being too rushed and hence sloppy. If that's the case, and I don't see anything to the contrary, this decision is even more stupid than I thought. EDIT: Doesn't say much, but nothing on TL's calendar or the front page of Liquipedia. IEM shouldn't be that soon, and Dreamhack, Asus, and MLG are definitely not going to be then. What the hell... NASL is running the world of tanks finals that next weekend, so they won't be free. That means at least NA has to happen. I don't know what ESL is doing, but they might want more than a week to prepare for Gamescon, since they do run the LSC during the week. Accepting that EU and AM can't do it, why not let KR go later? I consider myself a huge SC2 fan, but I can't watch 20 hours of SC2 in a day due to a combination of fatigue and commitments, at worst ease it to 13 hours or something. I checked GOM's(I think they are doing the finals) calendar and I think they are running world of tanks stuff that weekend too. Okay, so it's as I thought when the news broke yesterday: horribly organized leading to unfortunate scheduling.
I mean, when it was first launched by GOM, did we ever think that we would have to care about the World of Tanks finals or that it would around with the regional finals season 2 of WCS. Oh how things change.
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On July 24 2013 04:27 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 04:25 AgentW wrote:On July 24 2013 04:24 Plansix wrote:On July 24 2013 04:21 AgentW wrote:On July 24 2013 04:19 Plansix wrote:On July 24 2013 04:15 AgentW wrote:On July 24 2013 04:13 rename wrote:On July 24 2013 03:58 AgentW wrote:
TB, I agree with you that we should all be furious (I'm certainly not happy about it) and it will be extremely detrimental to SC2, but what do you propose as a solution then? ASUS ROG is the week before, and I don't know what's coming up afterward (not Dreamhack, nor MLG but I dunno about IEM after this weekend), and they still have to get through another season before the grand final at Blizzcon. How do they fit in a whole other season while changing the date? Well actually nothing is coming up afterward. Not even gamescom, there is a completely empty week between TI3 and Season 3 global finals. And since last global finals was just one week after US regional finals it cant be too short of a timeframe either. Im usually the guy trying to find reason behind blizzards decisions but with this one i really cant find any justification besides this year WCS being too rushed and hence sloppy. If that's the case, and I don't see anything to the contrary, this decision is even more stupid than I thought. EDIT: Doesn't say much, but nothing on TL's calendar or the front page of Liquipedia. IEM shouldn't be that soon, and Dreamhack, Asus, and MLG are definitely not going to be then. What the hell... NASL is running the world of tanks finals that next weekend, so they won't be free. That means at least NA has to happen. I don't know what ESL is doing, but they might want more than a week to prepare for Gamescon, since they do run the LSC during the week. Accepting that EU and AM can't do it, why not let KR go later? I consider myself a huge SC2 fan, but I can't watch 20 hours of SC2 in a day due to a combination of fatigue and commitments, at worst ease it to 13 hours or something. I checked GOM's(I think they are doing the finals) calendar and I think they are running world of tanks stuff that weekend too. Okay, so it's as I thought when the news broke yesterday: horribly organized leading to unfortunate scheduling. I mean, when it was first launched by GOM, did we ever think that we would have to care about the World of Tanks finals or that it would around with the regional finals season 2 of WCS. Oh how things change.
Was it scheduled at that point? If so, it's inexcusable.
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On July 24 2013 04:17 grs wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 04:15 snarl wrote:On July 24 2013 04:00 grs wrote:On July 24 2013 03:54 TotalBiscuit wrote:On July 24 2013 03:52 grs wrote:
Quality reasoning: "Everyone with a different opinion is an idiot". Can you imagine that people don't care for this e-sports/business side of gaming? Sure I would like to have the events on different weekends to be able to see more, but it simply does not bother me that much. I have no stocks in esport; I like to watch the games and whether dota/lol/sc have x amount of viewers does not bother me at all.
Turns out that not every argument has two equally valid sides to it. If you don't care about X Y and Z then stop talking, your opinion isn't useful. The damage this will do is an objective fact that is inescapable, how much it affects you is not relevant. Whether my opinion is useful or not, is not yours to judge. Maybe I did not get the memo that made you dictator over all opinions on all gaming related issues, but until that time, my opinion is as valid as yours. Your very own post basically said "i don't care", so why should your opinion matter? You're going to watch or not watch WCS either way, so why not let the people who DO care to see the eSport go one way and not the other express theirs? So opinions only matter if they are against something and the more against something they are and the louder the complaints are, the more valid and important they are? I don't think so.
No, opinions that are for OR against something matter/are valid. However, in this case, there is literally no plus side to having WCS being held in the fashion it will be, on the same weekend as the largest esport event yet, so why would anyone be for it? i guess you could call "I dont care" an opinion if you want, but to me it's simply acceptance
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On July 24 2013 04:36 AgentW wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 04:27 Plansix wrote:On July 24 2013 04:25 AgentW wrote:On July 24 2013 04:24 Plansix wrote:On July 24 2013 04:21 AgentW wrote:On July 24 2013 04:19 Plansix wrote:On July 24 2013 04:15 AgentW wrote:On July 24 2013 04:13 rename wrote:On July 24 2013 03:58 AgentW wrote:
TB, I agree with you that we should all be furious (I'm certainly not happy about it) and it will be extremely detrimental to SC2, but what do you propose as a solution then? ASUS ROG is the week before, and I don't know what's coming up afterward (not Dreamhack, nor MLG but I dunno about IEM after this weekend), and they still have to get through another season before the grand final at Blizzcon. How do they fit in a whole other season while changing the date? Well actually nothing is coming up afterward. Not even gamescom, there is a completely empty week between TI3 and Season 3 global finals. And since last global finals was just one week after US regional finals it cant be too short of a timeframe either. Im usually the guy trying to find reason behind blizzards decisions but with this one i really cant find any justification besides this year WCS being too rushed and hence sloppy. If that's the case, and I don't see anything to the contrary, this decision is even more stupid than I thought. EDIT: Doesn't say much, but nothing on TL's calendar or the front page of Liquipedia. IEM shouldn't be that soon, and Dreamhack, Asus, and MLG are definitely not going to be then. What the hell... NASL is running the world of tanks finals that next weekend, so they won't be free. That means at least NA has to happen. I don't know what ESL is doing, but they might want more than a week to prepare for Gamescon, since they do run the LSC during the week. Accepting that EU and AM can't do it, why not let KR go later? I consider myself a huge SC2 fan, but I can't watch 20 hours of SC2 in a day due to a combination of fatigue and commitments, at worst ease it to 13 hours or something. I checked GOM's(I think they are doing the finals) calendar and I think they are running world of tanks stuff that weekend too. Okay, so it's as I thought when the news broke yesterday: horribly organized leading to unfortunate scheduling. I mean, when it was first launched by GOM, did we ever think that we would have to care about the World of Tanks finals or that it would around with the regional finals season 2 of WCS. Oh how things change. Was it scheduled at that point? If so, it's inexcusable.
I don't think so. NASL started doing World of Tanks right before they took over WCS NA(from what Bitter said, they found out as they were preparing to start broadcasting). Both leagues(WoT and WCS) started around the same time in NA, so they were likely working out their finals at the same time. It likely that WoT just picked that weekend first due to the TI3.
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It's difficult to know how to feel on this. Brood War was so easy because it was all run by Korean and it never mattered when those happened, Korean Brood War was run on their own schedule and it always worked out nicely. Now we get to SC2, it's on a global scale and Blizzard run. SC2 is now on this level where they must compete with some fierce opponents to be a top game among the global community. I guess that's why I miss the GSL because it wasn't as big a deal if the GSL happened on the same weekend. But again since it's global, Blizzard has to be held responsible for this since they scheduled the tournament dates second.
I think in the end Starcraft 2 will be my choice event that weekended. There will always be scheduling conflicts on all levels of sports. Blizzard has to do what they got to do.But I have a question. Shouldn't we all be happy eSports has grown so much that we are overwhelmed with grand events that scheduling conflicts actually occur? This isn't the death of SC2 and like I said, Blizzard has a responsibility to run their events in a timely fashion and so I can't hate them for doing their job.
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On July 24 2013 04:39 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 04:36 AgentW wrote:On July 24 2013 04:27 Plansix wrote:On July 24 2013 04:25 AgentW wrote:On July 24 2013 04:24 Plansix wrote:On July 24 2013 04:21 AgentW wrote:On July 24 2013 04:19 Plansix wrote:On July 24 2013 04:15 AgentW wrote:On July 24 2013 04:13 rename wrote:On July 24 2013 03:58 AgentW wrote:
TB, I agree with you that we should all be furious (I'm certainly not happy about it) and it will be extremely detrimental to SC2, but what do you propose as a solution then? ASUS ROG is the week before, and I don't know what's coming up afterward (not Dreamhack, nor MLG but I dunno about IEM after this weekend), and they still have to get through another season before the grand final at Blizzcon. How do they fit in a whole other season while changing the date? Well actually nothing is coming up afterward. Not even gamescom, there is a completely empty week between TI3 and Season 3 global finals. And since last global finals was just one week after US regional finals it cant be too short of a timeframe either. Im usually the guy trying to find reason behind blizzards decisions but with this one i really cant find any justification besides this year WCS being too rushed and hence sloppy. If that's the case, and I don't see anything to the contrary, this decision is even more stupid than I thought. EDIT: Doesn't say much, but nothing on TL's calendar or the front page of Liquipedia. IEM shouldn't be that soon, and Dreamhack, Asus, and MLG are definitely not going to be then. What the hell... NASL is running the world of tanks finals that next weekend, so they won't be free. That means at least NA has to happen. I don't know what ESL is doing, but they might want more than a week to prepare for Gamescon, since they do run the LSC during the week. Accepting that EU and AM can't do it, why not let KR go later? I consider myself a huge SC2 fan, but I can't watch 20 hours of SC2 in a day due to a combination of fatigue and commitments, at worst ease it to 13 hours or something. I checked GOM's(I think they are doing the finals) calendar and I think they are running world of tanks stuff that weekend too. Okay, so it's as I thought when the news broke yesterday: horribly organized leading to unfortunate scheduling. I mean, when it was first launched by GOM, did we ever think that we would have to care about the World of Tanks finals or that it would around with the regional finals season 2 of WCS. Oh how things change. Was it scheduled at that point? If so, it's inexcusable. I don't think so. NASL started doing World of Tanks right before they took over WCS NA. Both leagues(WoT and WCS) started around the same time in NA, so they were likely working out their finals at the same time. It likely that WoT just picked that weekend first due to the TI3.
I thought you were talking about GOM WoT that weekend. I know you mentioned NASL has WoT that weekend, but does GOM have anything going on?
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On July 24 2013 04:40 AgentW wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2013 04:39 Plansix wrote:On July 24 2013 04:36 AgentW wrote:On July 24 2013 04:27 Plansix wrote:On July 24 2013 04:25 AgentW wrote:On July 24 2013 04:24 Plansix wrote:On July 24 2013 04:21 AgentW wrote:On July 24 2013 04:19 Plansix wrote:On July 24 2013 04:15 AgentW wrote:On July 24 2013 04:13 rename wrote:
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Well actually nothing is coming up afterward. Not even gamescom, there is a completely empty week between TI3 and Season 3 global finals. And since last global finals was just one week after US regional finals it cant be too short of a timeframe either.
Im usually the guy trying to find reason behind blizzards decisions but with this one i really cant find any justification besides this year WCS being too rushed and hence sloppy. If that's the case, and I don't see anything to the contrary, this decision is even more stupid than I thought. EDIT: Doesn't say much, but nothing on TL's calendar or the front page of Liquipedia. IEM shouldn't be that soon, and Dreamhack, Asus, and MLG are definitely not going to be then. What the hell... NASL is running the world of tanks finals that next weekend, so they won't be free. That means at least NA has to happen. I don't know what ESL is doing, but they might want more than a week to prepare for Gamescon, since they do run the LSC during the week. Accepting that EU and AM can't do it, why not let KR go later? I consider myself a huge SC2 fan, but I can't watch 20 hours of SC2 in a day due to a combination of fatigue and commitments, at worst ease it to 13 hours or something. I checked GOM's(I think they are doing the finals) calendar and I think they are running world of tanks stuff that weekend too. Okay, so it's as I thought when the news broke yesterday: horribly organized leading to unfortunate scheduling. I mean, when it was first launched by GOM, did we ever think that we would have to care about the World of Tanks finals or that it would around with the regional finals season 2 of WCS. Oh how things change. Was it scheduled at that point? If so, it's inexcusable. I don't think so. NASL started doing World of Tanks right before they took over WCS NA. Both leagues(WoT and WCS) started around the same time in NA, so they were likely working out their finals at the same time. It likely that WoT just picked that weekend first due to the TI3. I thought you were talking about GOM WoT that weekend. I know you mentioned NASL has WoT that weekend, but does GOM have anything going on?
They just have a bunch of matches set up for that day and who knows what else, but Tasteless and Artosiss cast those. I think they also do a Dota 2 league, but I could be wrong and another company does that. I don't follow the Korean Dota 2 scene(though I hear it is super amusing, all Meepo)
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TI3 streaming on YouTube too now, so Dota2 players will have client and that.
I'm okay with this.
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I don't necessarily share the same anger or vitriol towards Blizzard that most (rightfully) have, I'm just genuinely dumbfounded at this decision (and this dumbfounded feeling has been happening A LOT nowadays with respect to the guys from Irvine).
On the bright side, more potential new comers to DOTA2.
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