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Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
June 20 2013 21:01 GMT
#681
This thread was better when it was an argument about Unit strength in relation to tech progression over time...
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
June 20 2013 21:03 GMT
#682
On June 21 2013 04:31 Wingblade wrote:
Err 14-23...? What are you smoking Mr. Grandmaster?

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_StarCraft_II_World_Championship_Series/Statistics

try 32-59 PvT winrate in Europe last season.

Yes, 14-23 in Premier League (16-25* actually upon couting again). Feel free to list the results which shock you in the Challenger League given the names involved; from a quick read I see no outstanding upset.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26222 Posts
June 20 2013 23:41 GMT
#683
On June 21 2013 06:01 Thieving Magpie wrote:
This thread was better when it was an argument about Unit strength in relation to tech progression over time...

It was better when people weren't posting absolute nonsense.

Plenty of good posts here, including yourself but buried among a sea of barely comprehensible whine. Is the patch live yet btw? Looking forward to winning every game with a slightly faster Warp Prism.

I do see some cool applications, but nothing massively earth-shattering. Makes cute play like Seed-style warp prism with 4 stalkers to harass in the early game in PvZ/clear creep a little easier to pull off.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
June 20 2013 23:44 GMT
#684
Who doesn't love games decided by sentries forcefielding ramps?
[]Phase[]
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium927 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-20 23:46:19
June 20 2013 23:45 GMT
#685
man this thread is overflowing with tears. Lets see how it plays out before jumping to conclusions.
GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
June 21 2013 00:12 GMT
#686
On June 21 2013 08:44 m0ck wrote:
Who doesn't love games decided by sentries forcefielding ramps?


Love them. The only thing better are blink all-ins + FF on Ramps.
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freizya
Profile Joined October 2012
United States223 Posts
June 21 2013 00:24 GMT
#687
people who qq fuels my all ins
usethis2
Profile Joined December 2010
2164 Posts
June 21 2013 00:43 GMT
#688
On June 20 2013 19:08 tropical wrote:
Sometimes, especially around the time a new balance patch is released, this community makes me very, very sad. How about we just see how it play's out? I am quit sure it won't break PvT/TvP.

Even though I have no quarrel with this specific patch, but your suggestion is disingenuous. People flip out over balance changes because once introduced they rarely are revoked. (exception: bunkers) "Why not see how it plays out," while a valid point, but talking as if Blizzard will quickly change it back once proved broken is not an honest response.

Again, I don't think this patch is ground-breaking. Hopefully this will help out toss to play more "normal" games with consistency instead of their off-putting cheeses.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
June 21 2013 00:47 GMT
#689
On June 21 2013 09:43 usethis2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2013 19:08 tropical wrote:
Sometimes, especially around the time a new balance patch is released, this community makes me very, very sad. How about we just see how it play's out? I am quit sure it won't break PvT/TvP.

Even though I have no quarrel with this specific patch, but your suggestion is disingenuous. People flip out over balance changes because once introduced they rarely are revoked. (exception: bunkers) "Why not see how it plays out," while a valid point, but talking as if Blizzard will quickly change it back once proved broken is not an honest response.

Again, I don't think this patch is ground-breaking. Hopefully this will help out toss to play more "normal" games with consistency instead of their off-putting cheeses.


When has a balance change been so bad that it's needed to be revoked?
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Hellbat
Profile Joined June 2013
223 Posts
June 21 2013 00:49 GMT
#690
no banshee change?
usethis2
Profile Joined December 2010
2164 Posts
June 21 2013 00:57 GMT
#691
On June 21 2013 09:47 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2013 09:43 usethis2 wrote:
On June 20 2013 19:08 tropical wrote:
Sometimes, especially around the time a new balance patch is released, this community makes me very, very sad. How about we just see how it play's out? I am quit sure it won't break PvT/TvP.

Even though I have no quarrel with this specific patch, but your suggestion is disingenuous. People flip out over balance changes because once introduced they rarely are revoked. (exception: bunkers) "Why not see how it plays out," while a valid point, but talking as if Blizzard will quickly change it back once proved broken is not an honest response.

Again, I don't think this patch is ground-breaking. Hopefully this will help out toss to play more "normal" games with consistency instead of their off-putting cheeses.


When has a balance change been so bad that it's needed to be revoked?

Well, then what's the point of those who suggest "Let's wait and see first"? They talk as if the changes are temporal. (at least you get such an impression) Maybe you should tell that crowd to shut up.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
June 21 2013 00:58 GMT
#692
On June 21 2013 09:47 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2013 09:43 usethis2 wrote:
On June 20 2013 19:08 tropical wrote:
Sometimes, especially around the time a new balance patch is released, this community makes me very, very sad. How about we just see how it play's out? I am quit sure it won't break PvT/TvP.

Even though I have no quarrel with this specific patch, but your suggestion is disingenuous. People flip out over balance changes because once introduced they rarely are revoked. (exception: bunkers) "Why not see how it plays out," while a valid point, but talking as if Blizzard will quickly change it back once proved broken is not an honest response.

Again, I don't think this patch is ground-breaking. Hopefully this will help out toss to play more "normal" games with consistency instead of their off-putting cheeses.


When has a balance change been so bad that it's needed to be revoked?


Queens.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
SibChil
Profile Joined August 2012
Sweden502 Posts
June 21 2013 00:59 GMT
#693
On June 21 2013 09:58 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2013 09:47 GolemMadness wrote:
On June 21 2013 09:43 usethis2 wrote:
On June 20 2013 19:08 tropical wrote:
Sometimes, especially around the time a new balance patch is released, this community makes me very, very sad. How about we just see how it play's out? I am quit sure it won't break PvT/TvP.

Even though I have no quarrel with this specific patch, but your suggestion is disingenuous. People flip out over balance changes because once introduced they rarely are revoked. (exception: bunkers) "Why not see how it plays out," while a valid point, but talking as if Blizzard will quickly change it back once proved broken is not an honest response.

Again, I don't think this patch is ground-breaking. Hopefully this will help out toss to play more "normal" games with consistency instead of their off-putting cheeses.


When has a balance change been so bad that it's needed to be revoked?


Queens.


Yes, queens had all the signs of needing another reiteration, but but, no acknowledgement from blizzard
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jax1492
Profile Joined November 2009
United States1632 Posts
June 21 2013 01:02 GMT
#694
time to drop!
Eviscerador
Profile Joined October 2011
Spain286 Posts
June 21 2013 01:11 GMT
#695
On June 20 2013 07:22 HolyArrow wrote:
ITT:

Terran players: Waahh Protoss has feature A now
Protoss players: Well Terran has feature B!
Terran players: But Protoss has feature C!

It's almost like Terran and Protoss are supposed to be different races!


Zerg: "And we have to deal with this fuck too??"
A victorious warrior wins first, then goes to war. A defeated warrior goes to war and then seeks to win.
usethis2
Profile Joined December 2010
2164 Posts
June 21 2013 01:19 GMT
#696
On June 20 2013 20:22 Jaded. wrote:
SoS vs maru pretty much demonstrates how this isn't really going to affect anything. SoS lost because he invested units into harassing Maru's main, which did almost nothing, instead of making units to defend his 3rd base against the inevitable 14 min push. He didn't have enough units to defend the third because of the lackluster harass. After he lost the 3rd it was basically over he wasn't going to be able to match terrans production and maru ran him over a little later. Making the harass a little faster isn't going to change the fact that it can be cleaned up by rallied marine/marauders.

Remove warpgate, buff gateway units, that is all.

Or you can just play Terran. Warp Gates are what defines protoss. What's the difference between T & P if you buff Gateway units and remove Warp Gates, other than graphics?
Mithra62
Profile Joined December 2011
France2 Posts
June 21 2013 01:34 GMT
#697
And Hellbats still unerfed, what does Blizzard wait for ?
Don't freak out !
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
June 21 2013 01:35 GMT
#698
On June 21 2013 09:57 usethis2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2013 09:47 GolemMadness wrote:
On June 21 2013 09:43 usethis2 wrote:
On June 20 2013 19:08 tropical wrote:
Sometimes, especially around the time a new balance patch is released, this community makes me very, very sad. How about we just see how it play's out? I am quit sure it won't break PvT/TvP.

Even though I have no quarrel with this specific patch, but your suggestion is disingenuous. People flip out over balance changes because once introduced they rarely are revoked. (exception: bunkers) "Why not see how it plays out," while a valid point, but talking as if Blizzard will quickly change it back once proved broken is not an honest response.

Again, I don't think this patch is ground-breaking. Hopefully this will help out toss to play more "normal" games with consistency instead of their off-putting cheeses.


When has a balance change been so bad that it's needed to be revoked?

Well, then what's the point of those who suggest "Let's wait and see first"? They talk as if the changes are temporal. (at least you get such an impression) Maybe you should tell that crowd to shut up.


Because complaining the second you see a patch makes you look like you're just whining. If some weeks from now it's clearly not a good patch, then say that it's a bad patch. Waiting to see how something turns out is just common sense. It's not like if some people on here start complaining instantly, Blizzard's going to just revoke it.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
June 21 2013 01:36 GMT
#699
On June 21 2013 09:58 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2013 09:47 GolemMadness wrote:
On June 21 2013 09:43 usethis2 wrote:
On June 20 2013 19:08 tropical wrote:
Sometimes, especially around the time a new balance patch is released, this community makes me very, very sad. How about we just see how it play's out? I am quit sure it won't break PvT/TvP.

Even though I have no quarrel with this specific patch, but your suggestion is disingenuous. People flip out over balance changes because once introduced they rarely are revoked. (exception: bunkers) "Why not see how it plays out," while a valid point, but talking as if Blizzard will quickly change it back once proved broken is not an honest response.

Again, I don't think this patch is ground-breaking. Hopefully this will help out toss to play more "normal" games with consistency instead of their off-putting cheeses.


When has a balance change been so bad that it's needed to be revoked?


Queens.


Does anyone actually think that queens having 5 range instead of 3 is an issue right now?
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11075 Posts
June 21 2013 01:38 GMT
#700
Terran players bitching is a bit amusing with some of the rather... interesting design/balance choices blizzard made for the most successful race.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
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