EPTAside from HerO winning WCS America and then getting ROFLSTOMPED shortly thereafter, I don't remember Protoss winning much. It's been mostly T and Z.
EDIT - Oh and Stardust won Dreamhack. But otherwise I can't think of last event a Protoss won.
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DinoMight
United States3725 Posts
Aside from HerO winning WCS America and then getting ROFLSTOMPED shortly thereafter, I don't remember Protoss winning much. It's been mostly T and Z. EDIT - Oh and Stardust won Dreamhack. But otherwise I can't think of last event a Protoss won. | ||
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On June 21 2013 03:54 Plansix wrote: Well then all the results from WCS are worthless. Innovation is in KR, MVP is in EU and NA players don't matter because its NA and filled with Korean B teamers. None of it matters because of the highly skilled(or not skilled) players involved in each region. We don't have to ask this question for WCS Kr because, if I counted right, TvP was 15-15 in maps at Code S last season; and anyway, there are some Protoss who can win Bogus in a BO3 (Rain, sOs, PartinG I presume; perhaps others as well, I'm not a Protoss specialist), so we're not really in a "one player above the rest" configuration for Korea. I don't know for WCS America. | ||
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
On June 20 2013 23:53 syno wrote: That still makes no difference at all, it's still not 1A, what is your point? I'm sure if I spent a week learning how to work towards a zealot archon composition I could basically a-move my way to the same level I'm at at Terran, it's just a few letters, get over it. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On June 21 2013 04:00 Targe wrote: I'm sure if I spent a week learning how to work towards a zealot archon composition I could basically a-move my way to the same level I'm at at Terran, it's just a few letters, get over it. And I am sure if I spent a week learning some dumb hellbat all in, I could drop my way to the same level I am right now. What is your point? | ||
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Dreamer.T
United States3584 Posts
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MaTaAeRuKaNa
United States95 Posts
On June 20 2013 09:34 blade55555 wrote: Not a drop mechanic lol. I hope zerg gets an op drop mechanic soon :D Zergs have nydus -_________- TvP lategame imba, bring back warhounds | ||
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Wingblade
United States1806 Posts
On June 21 2013 03:24 TheDwf wrote: I said "with zero robo fighting unit" for the sOs example. Other instances? OK. ForGG vs sOs, Neo Planet S, WCS global finals: 13'20 robo, 14'30 robobay i. e. pure gates until at least 15'. Second game from that series, Bel'shir Vestige: 12'30 robo, 14'20 robobay. Can't you just watch top players from your race and know by yourself that opening Templars into late Colossi (Immortals aren't even mandatory, zeal/archons/storm can work on its own) is perfectly viable? Ah yes, the famous proof of "imbalance" in which the 35% is based on a glorious 37 games sample size (14-23 according to Liquipedia), including Mvp having 8 wins against much inferior Protoss. OK. Please watch the following list and tell me some of the results are surprising? ForGG 1:2 SaSe Happy 2:1 HasuObs ThorZaIN 2:1 TitaN ThorZaIN 2:1 TitaN Mvp 2:0 Siw Mvp 2:1 Socke Shuttle 0:2 NaNiwa Shuttle 0:2 NaNiwa KrasS 0:2 Grubby MMA 1:2 Feast MMA 2:0 MaNa Happy 2:0 BabyKnight Mvp 2:0 SaSe Mvp 2:0 SaSe LucifroN 3:0 BabyKnight Any Terran upset? No, that's right. Protoss had a bad season on WCS Europe, which is irrelevant for balance. Move on. Err 14-23...? What are you smoking Mr. Grandmaster? http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_StarCraft_II_World_Championship_Series/Statistics try 32-59 PvT winrate in Europe last season. | ||
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arterian
Canada1157 Posts
The buff is amazing. It a niche buff that was really only used once in a blue moon to snipe a spire or something and made it something I can use every game, defensively (immortal pickups vs roach timings) and offensively with drops and push. | ||
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Wingblade
United States1806 Posts
On June 21 2013 04:00 TheDwf wrote: We don't have to ask this question for WCS Kr because, if I counted right, TvP was 15-15 in maps at Code S last season; and anyway, there are some Protoss who can win Bogus in a BO3 (Rain, sOs, PartinG I presume; perhaps others as well, I'm not a Protoss specialist), so we're not really in a "one player above the rest" configuration for Korea. I don't know for WCS America. So what is your explanation for Challenger League in Europe being massively Terran favored? Mvp didn't play in Challenger. | ||
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SSVnormandy
France392 Posts
They should put the cost to dark shrine at the WOL cost to counter balance the WP buff. Go go protoss just harass in a skilled way for change | ||
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Irre
United States646 Posts
On June 21 2013 04:39 SSVnormandy wrote: It's very good news that protoss can finally do proper harass that can poke and will require micromanagement because nowadays with very cheap DT and oracles their harass capability is very dumb with no micro and lead to poor wins. They should put the cost to dark shrine at the WOL cost to counter balance the WP buff. Go go protoss just harass in a skilled way for change how exactly is warping in zealots or DTs and forgetting about them at an earlier timing more skillful harass? | ||
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kyllinghest
Norway1607 Posts
On June 20 2013 07:02 GTPGlitch wrote: afaik barracks can't be put in medivacs This obvious problem should be adressed! | ||
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juicyjames
United States3815 Posts
http://us.launcher.battle.net/en-us/sc2/patch STARCRAFT II PATCH 2.0.9 BALANCE Protoss Warp Prism
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TrickyGilligan
United States641 Posts
Yay, maybe people will actually lose to this a few times before complaining, instead of just complaining. I can hope, right? | ||
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Figgy
Canada1788 Posts
On June 20 2013 08:04 viasacra89 wrote: Was there a point in telling us that you're top 5 plat? Soon he'll be rank 7000 Diamond  | ||
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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
On June 21 2013 04:36 Wingblade wrote: So what is your explanation for Challenger League in Europe being massively Terran favored? Mvp didn't play in Challenger. your counterargument to his example using top level play is a qualifiers round? | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On June 21 2013 05:03 Thieving Magpie wrote: your counterargument to his example using top level play is a qualifiers round? Cherry picking data is the best way to win any argument. | ||
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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
On June 21 2013 05:05 Plansix wrote: Cherry picking data is the best way to win any argument. Fine, how about I cherry pick this factoid. We have no empirical data on the effects of this buff and hence cannot make conclusions until top level play has had a chance to push the boundaries of its possibilities further. | ||
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Xaeldaren
Ireland588 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On June 21 2013 05:08 Thieving Magpie wrote: Fine, how about I cherry pick this factoid. We have no empirical data on the effects of this buff and hence cannot make conclusions until top level play has had a chance to push the boundaries of its possibilities further. Great, but the patch is live so there is little to discuss. The WP now moves as fast as a stalker, so I am sure the world for terrans will now end. | ||
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