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Bunn
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Estonia934 Posts
June 12 2013 12:25 GMT
#61
Damn, how can he play so fast? Doesn't he get dizzy? :S

Sick shit
"There are no limits. There are plateaus, but you must not stay there, you must go beyond them. If it kills you, it kills you. A man must constantly exceed his level." - Bruce Lee
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
June 12 2013 12:36 GMT
#62
On June 12 2013 21:19 Lazzi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2013 21:14 Nimix wrote:
This VODs show the concept of screen APM pretty well (lastshadow was talking about this on his stream the other day and how it is the criteria korean teamhouses use rather than APM or EAPM to determine how fast a player is). He doesn't scroll or very little, he does a perfect cycle between his bases, production, depots and army + drops and takes his actions very fast when needed. Thats really impressive and inspiring, that's a good VoD to show to beginners to explain them what the macro cycle is (which is actually really hard to understand at first I think).

What is exactly screen APM?


the number of screens you're able to check in 1minute. since you shouldn't scroll except in engagements it's a good variable.
Zest fanboy.
Nimix
Profile Joined October 2011
France1809 Posts
June 12 2013 12:39 GMT
#63
What is exactly screen APM?

He said that's the capacity of a player to constantly switch screens and to see very quickly what happens on each and decide if an action is needed or not, then take the action. He linked a FPVOD from Best from Broodwar to explain; the guy basically spams camera hotkeys while doing things like rallying probes etc, and all of a suddens you see a glimpse of a shuttle on one of his bases, he instantly splits probes and dodges the storm while a moving units towards it.
this one :
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
June 12 2013 13:19 GMT
#64
Holy crap bogus, I really wish I was able to place buildings like that.
It's so fricking hard to do.
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Rescawen
Profile Joined April 2010
Finland1028 Posts
June 12 2013 13:35 GMT
#65
On June 12 2013 21:39 Nimix wrote:
Show nested quote +
What is exactly screen APM?

He said that's the capacity of a player to constantly switch screens and to see very quickly what happens on each and decide if an action is needed or not, then take the action. He linked a FPVOD from Best from Broodwar to explain; the guy basically spams camera hotkeys while doing things like rallying probes etc, and all of a suddens you see a glimpse of a shuttle on one of his bases, he instantly splits probes and dodges the storm while a moving units towards it.
this one : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OqsLsm1oQY


except this is probably way more difficult to do in sc2 due more pixels and higher pixel density.
Figgy
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1788 Posts
June 12 2013 13:39 GMT
#66
On June 12 2013 22:35 Rescawen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2013 21:39 Nimix wrote:
What is exactly screen APM?

He said that's the capacity of a player to constantly switch screens and to see very quickly what happens on each and decide if an action is needed or not, then take the action. He linked a FPVOD from Best from Broodwar to explain; the guy basically spams camera hotkeys while doing things like rallying probes etc, and all of a suddens you see a glimpse of a shuttle on one of his bases, he instantly splits probes and dodges the storm while a moving units towards it.
this one : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OqsLsm1oQY


except this is probably way more difficult to do in sc2 due more pixels and higher pixel density.


And due to speedvacs
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THM
Profile Joined November 2010
Bulgaria1131 Posts
June 12 2013 13:42 GMT
#67
Came here to say I would pay for streams that show players' POV in tournaments. That is so awesome!!
Prugelhugel
Profile Joined February 2012
Austria637 Posts
June 12 2013 13:45 GMT
#68
On June 11 2013 02:11 ROOTheognis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2013 02:08 Partha wrote:
On June 11 2013 02:07 mechengineer123 wrote:
Wish every tournament would show fp. So impressive and much more interesting to watch than some semi-afk observer chilling on the army.


This is impossible (?) due to the current environment of tournaments: As far as I know many many pros use custom graphic settings and for a broadcaster to switch between FPs that have graphic inconsistencies is not a wise move. If they enforced a rule where everyone has to play on one setting then this would be resolved but players would complain.


What's the big deal of switching to a diff shot? (FPView of their comp screen). It's just like splicing in another camera angle but from their computer no?


Would be even cooler imo because then you'd faster recognize it's the player which you are watching.
"This map definitly needs more rocks" - No SC2 player ever
FakePseudo
Profile Joined January 2012
Belgium716 Posts
June 12 2013 14:02 GMT
#69
I love it how Apollo and the korean Guy are all about the occidental girl filmed in the crowd and then you've got Nerd[9] getting really excited "Oh my god he's going marauder hellbat!". Things like that don't lie^
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WikidSik
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada382 Posts
June 12 2013 14:04 GMT
#70
sc2 takes no skill eh
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crbox
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1180 Posts
June 12 2013 14:35 GMT
#71
I love you
tenklavir
Profile Joined November 2010
Slovakia116 Posts
June 12 2013 14:43 GMT
#72
On June 12 2013 22:39 Figgy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2013 22:35 Rescawen wrote:
On June 12 2013 21:39 Nimix wrote:
What is exactly screen APM?

He said that's the capacity of a player to constantly switch screens and to see very quickly what happens on each and decide if an action is needed or not, then take the action. He linked a FPVOD from Best from Broodwar to explain; the guy basically spams camera hotkeys while doing things like rallying probes etc, and all of a suddens you see a glimpse of a shuttle on one of his bases, he instantly splits probes and dodges the storm while a moving units towards it.
this one : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OqsLsm1oQY


except this is probably way more difficult to do in sc2 due more pixels and higher pixel density.


And due to speedvacs

Had to get that whine in there, didn't you
DenTenker
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States606 Posts
June 12 2013 14:50 GMT
#73
Really cool link. I always love FPVODS because it shows just how fast the pros play. I wish it was the whole game, but I'll take all I can get. To make these kids of videos more accessible, I think, as mentioned, Blizzard should implement an option to view the mouse cursor in replays. I think it would add a lot of depth and would give players another way to improve their play. They can see just how effective/ineffective their cursor usage is and can work to improve that.
If your all in didn't work, you didn't pull the workers.
rave[wcr]
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1166 Posts
June 12 2013 14:57 GMT
#74
anyone have a link to that korean vod that shows the girl apollo was talking about? i want to see.
Chrono000
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Korea (South)358 Posts
June 12 2013 16:03 GMT
#75
On June 11 2013 02:08 Partha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2013 02:07 mechengineer123 wrote:
Wish every tournament would show fp. So impressive and much more interesting to watch than some semi-afk observer chilling on the army.


This is impossible (?) due to the current environment of tournaments: As far as I know many many pros use custom graphic settings and for a broadcaster to switch between FPs that have graphic inconsistencies is not a wise move. If they enforced a rule where everyone has to play on one setting then this would be resolved but players would complain.


id be interested in watching everyones settings. it shows more of the players style in a way.
vhapter
Profile Joined May 2010
Brazil677 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-14 23:59:02
June 14 2013 23:53 GMT
#76
I wonder how he sends scvs back to mining after building supply depots and stuff. Return cargo doesn't seem to work very well, some scvs simply stop mining once they return the minerals they've just gathered.

EDIT: This is weird. He actually doesn't shift rally them back or anything. He goes back to his main everything a new build is finished and either builds more stuff with said worker, or sends it back to mining. But sometimes, he leaves them idle too for a while.
To live is to fight, to fight is to live!
r1flEx
Profile Joined October 2012
Belgium256 Posts
June 17 2013 16:13 GMT
#77
what is edge scroll? or whatever the guys in this topic were talking about scrolling in battles or when need to build ebays/barracks/...
FluffyBinLaden
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States527 Posts
June 17 2013 16:31 GMT
#78
On June 18 2013 01:13 r1flEx wrote:
what is edge scroll? or whatever the guys in this topic were talking about scrolling in battles or when need to build ebays/barracks/...


Moving your mouse to the edge of the screen and making the screen move like that. You can also use the arrow keys and middle mouse button, but you will never do that while playing unless you want to look like a newbie.

Edge scrolling is inefficient, which is why it's good to use it as little as possible.
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r1flEx
Profile Joined October 2012
Belgium256 Posts
June 17 2013 16:50 GMT
#79
On June 18 2013 01:31 FluffyBinLaden wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 01:13 r1flEx wrote:
what is edge scroll? or whatever the guys in this topic were talking about scrolling in battles or when need to build ebays/barracks/...


Moving your mouse to the edge of the screen and making the screen move like that. You can also use the arrow keys and middle mouse button, but you will never do that while playing unless you want to look like a newbie.

Edge scrolling is inefficient, which is why it's good to use it as little as possible.

so everyone in here asking why he isn't scrolling is a newbie?
i've never heard of it but they make it sound useful for some reason
ppshchik
Profile Joined September 2010
United States862 Posts
June 17 2013 18:09 GMT
#80
How come his hotkeys aren't shown?
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