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o29
Profile Joined November 2010
United States220 Posts
June 10 2013 21:40 GMT
#21
Anyone want to guess what his EAPM is in the video? Or on average?
Jaded.
Profile Joined June 2013
United States125 Posts
June 11 2013 01:08 GMT
#22
Ah yes this was my favorite part of the tournament. I love watching it from the players perspective. While it probably wouldn't be good to have it on the main stream this was on the 2nd stream which would be nice to do for other major tournaments. I loved the lounge stream it was pretty laid back and funny as well. Hope they continue it as being a mid masters player I don't need a commentator explaining the strats to me so I have most other streams on mute.
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kaleidoscope
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Singapore2887 Posts
June 11 2013 01:16 GMT
#23
On June 11 2013 02:13 Partha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2013 02:11 ROOTheognis wrote:
On June 11 2013 02:08 Partha wrote:
On June 11 2013 02:07 mechengineer123 wrote:
Wish every tournament would show fp. So impressive and much more interesting to watch than some semi-afk observer chilling on the army.


This is impossible (?) due to the current environment of tournaments: As far as I know many many pros use custom graphic settings and for a broadcaster to switch between FPs that have graphic inconsistencies is not a wise move. If they enforced a rule where everyone has to play on one setting then this would be resolved but players would complain.


What's the big deal of switching to a diff shot? (FPView of their comp screen). It's just like splicing in another camera angle but from their computer no?


Imagine going from Bogus's pov (high settings?) to his opponent who plays on the lowest setting. That would be really jarring and look bad on a broadcaster's perspective. Not to mention that a lot of pros actually play on low settings (Zerg players) and it looks TERRIBAD.


well it is called a FIRST PERSON view for a reason.. at least we can know if he noticed the dts/obs if he's playing at low settings..
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jcroisdale
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1543 Posts
June 11 2013 01:33 GMT
#24
I really liked the conversation going on during the FPVOD. It wasn't casting as more as two players talking about the game. Gives a different type of view.
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m0nt
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia80 Posts
June 11 2013 02:03 GMT
#25
On June 11 2013 06:40 o29 wrote:
Anyone want to guess what his EAPM is in the video? Or on average?



80-100, lol.
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Glenn313
Profile Joined August 2011
United States475 Posts
June 11 2013 02:04 GMT
#26
Soo fluent..
Hey man
plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
June 11 2013 02:29 GMT
#27
On June 11 2013 03:03 Wojciech Zywny wrote:
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On June 11 2013 02:46 jyuj wrote:
No prob kills, lost 2 med vacs and 4 bats, but went on to win the game. TERRAN SICK LIFE!

User was warned for this post



you're right most terrans don't waste a ton of resources on hellbat drops and come out of the early game at about even supply as protoss. innovation wasted a ton of resources on hellbat drops and comes out ahead.

surely that's a point for innovation being insanely good rather than terran being op.


sOs sacrificed his army size for tech and economy. sOswas ahead on upgrades, had both collosi and templar tech, and a third base.
Taefox
Profile Joined March 2010
1533 Posts
June 11 2013 02:49 GMT
#28
his apm isn't the fastest but smoothly...
@taefoxy
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9031 Posts
June 11 2013 03:30 GMT
#29
FPVODs were my favourite thing in BW. Wish we could have more of this.
A Wild Sosd
Profile Joined September 2012
Australia421 Posts
June 11 2013 11:31 GMT
#30
God he just doesnt scroll with his mouse ever. That looked so damn efficient, Now I'm gonna try and do that on ladder fail miserably and hate my life :'(
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Lazzi
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1923 Posts
June 11 2013 11:43 GMT
#31
I love FPVOD, I still remember the first one I have ever seen: it was Moon on War3. From then my visoin of skilled has changed forever.
I know that guys like Bisu are way faster than Moon, but I was 11 and it was the first time I saw someone going that fast with his keyboard and mouse.
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sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
June 11 2013 11:43 GMT
#32
You should see Flash, he is much less spammy and smoother than this
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quirinus
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Croatia2489 Posts
June 11 2013 11:47 GMT
#33
He does spam if you watch it, but it usually has the purpose of checking if anything is building and how far to being complete is it.

It's nice to see this, they should release some FPVODs, like in BW.
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WeRRa
Profile Joined December 2010
378 Posts
June 11 2013 11:53 GMT
#34
On June 11 2013 20:43 sluggaslamoo wrote:
You should see Flash, he is much less spammy and smoother than this

Actully not and he proves it everytime in lategame tvp where flash still fails horrible, that his mechanics are step above almost everyone.
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figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
June 11 2013 11:53 GMT
#35
His spam is faster than I've seen other top speed pro's do it though. Almost like everybody else plays on "fast" and only he actually plays on "faster". I'm definitely impressed.
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Daumen
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1073 Posts
June 11 2013 11:55 GMT
#36
Nice, thats really fun to watch ;D

But now I want to see the pretty girl that blew the kiss ;x...

Hope to see more FP segments from Innovation ;D
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fearus
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
China2164 Posts
June 11 2013 12:01 GMT
#37
Still didn't give me the seizures that bisu's fpvods did.... but if they could do fpvod back in bw surely they can do it for sc2.
bisu fanboy
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
June 11 2013 12:12 GMT
#38
This was really, really interesting to watch!

They should release more of these, GomTv, take notes! ^^

Pretty smooth APM from Innovation here, I think everyone should try to emulate this. He barely mouse scrolls, everything is done with hotkeys, so extremely efficient.
maru lover forever
Hryul
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria2609 Posts
June 11 2013 12:49 GMT
#39
On June 11 2013 21:01 fearus wrote:
Still didn't give me the seizures that bisu's fpvods did.... but if they could do fpvod back in bw surely they can do it for sc2.

no! the technology isn't there yet!

I'm sad I missed the "lounge stream" but I wanted to see everything what's going on. Otherwise + Show Spoiler +
I wouldn't know of the observer on the very left that spots bogus' drops.
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IPS.Blue
Profile Joined January 2004
Germany309 Posts
June 11 2013 13:09 GMT
#40
On June 11 2013 20:31 A Wild Sosd wrote:
God he just doesnt scroll with his mouse ever. That looked so damn efficient, Now I'm gonna try and do that on ladder fail miserably and hate my life :'(

Scrolling’s bad.
I think he’d have scrolled in an army engangement, though. I wish this FPVOD would show the whole game, but thanks anyway.
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