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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On June 10 2013 15:23 stuchiu wrote: I'll record results of games with Hellbats in this thread: ZvT: Cure 1-0 Soulkey SPL Updated* Cure 1-0 Soulkey Bunny 1-0 JYP Taeja 1-0 Herojoin Losses: Terminator 1-0 Light | ||
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Shiori
3815 Posts
On June 11 2013 06:22 Plansix wrote: How very free spirited of you. I judge peoples ideas based on their ability to convey them to me through the written word. If they suck at writing, I don't give their argument much thought. That's pretty stupid. If you can still easily comprehend what they're trying to say (i.e. if the spelling errors aren't egregious) then there's no reason to discount what they're saying just because the grammar isn't perfect. It's just you looking for a reason to ignore something rather than address it. The reason this shit isn't permitted in a court of law is because it would create ambiguity where ambiguity is absolutely not allowed. A message board on a forum doesn't have that problem, especially when the error is as transparent as your vs you're. | ||
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hitpoint
United States1511 Posts
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Emzeeshady
Canada4203 Posts
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dani`
Netherlands2402 Posts
On June 11 2013 01:43 submarine wrote: I have a rather interesting idea: You can't build hellbats. After the armory is finished one hellion and one SCV can fusion into a hellbat. -->explains more HP -->explains bio tag -->could be reversed to release SCVs for repair duty -->explains higher cargo slot The numbers should be balanced around the increased cost. Hellbats are "self inflicted" harassment, similar to SCVs for bunker rushes or certain all ins. lol I kinda like this. | ||
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Shibunbundit
Bulgaria22 Posts
On June 11 2013 05:59 Targe wrote: Don't dismiss someone's argument because of spelling -.- What he typed, makes no sense. That was the reason for the dismissal, not the misuse of words, 'cause actually that wasn't a spelling mistake  | ||
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mantequilla
Turkey779 Posts
On June 11 2013 01:43 submarine wrote: I have a rather interesting idea: You can't build hellbats. After the armory is finished one hellion and one SCV can fusion into a hellbat. -->explains more HP -->explains bio tag -->could be reversed to release SCVs for repair duty -->explains higher cargo slot The numbers should be balanced around the increased cost. Hellbats are "self inflicted" harassment, similar to SCVs for bunker rushes or certain all ins. upupupup!!!! | ||
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Snowbear
Korea (South)1925 Posts
On June 11 2013 01:54 mishimaBeef wrote: 1) Reduce the AoE cone until blue flame. 2) Remove +light until blue flame. You can as well remove the unit from the game then. Seriously... | ||
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LlamaNamedOsama
United States1900 Posts
...I'd prefer the Terratron as a unit if we're going to start going power rangers on our terran mech units. | ||
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aZealot
New Zealand5447 Posts
Hell, the super-powerful Marine, is toast when the Hellbat combines with the Medivac. There is no response than the HB. Still, it's best that Blizzard waits a little while, though. If a tweak is required, though, I'd favour lowering the HP, and maybe tweaking the damage down a little. This will allow other units to counter it more effectively and facilitate other strategies, imo. | ||
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Fides
United States23 Posts
Hellbats heal from medivacs like they are bio Hellbats get vehicle weapon and armor upgrades por que?????????? | ||
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Mentalizor
Denmark1596 Posts
This is nice... but... What about the supply?... Hellbat being 3 supply?... or somehow when the fuse you get more supplycap? Making hellbat cost a staggering 50% more supply will take a huge toll on the potential of the hellbat late game (mainly 200/200)... But still mess up the designed builds where you rush hense you will have to cut something or get another depot | ||
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Lukeeze[zR]
Switzerland6838 Posts
On June 11 2013 07:53 Snowbear wrote: You can as well remove the unit from the game then. Seriously... 3) Remove the unit until blue flame. | ||
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PSosa
Peru23 Posts
On June 11 2013 08:11 Fides wrote: What I dont understand: Hellbats heal from medivacs like they are bio Hellbats get vehicle weapon and armor upgrades por que?????????? ni idea bro | ||
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Zambrah
United States7376 Posts
Removes some of the crazy Medivac/Hellbat synergy without harming either unit as themselves. | ||
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j4vz
Canada976 Posts
not sure how blizzard should fix this. | ||
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Zambrah
United States7376 Posts
On June 11 2013 09:13 j4vz wrote: I think the huge problem is the mining times lost, im too busy to get mathematical proof for this, but im pretty sure just the mining time lost alone for race X vs low investment from race T is totally worth it for T. not sure how blizzard should fix this. I think someone in this thread did the math on that actually, I'll go back and find it when I have some spare time. | ||
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GhostOwl
766 Posts
On June 10 2013 23:52 willstertben wrote: why do terrans have this notion that all styles of play that they fancy to do should be viable in all matchups? I agree. Sometimes mech shouldnt be viable in every matchup. Look at broodwar TvP, bio wasn't viable unless for early all-in's, but it turned out to be the most balanced matchup of all time People are complaining hellbats are too efficient for what they cost. Solution, take away medivac speed and raise cost of hellbats. 125 mineral/25 gas or 100 mineral/50 gas sounds very reasonable. Medivac speed is just unnecessary benefit T harassment has. Speed should either be taken away or cost 150 medivac energy to use so they cant be spammed | ||
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BamBam
745 Posts
On June 11 2013 09:27 GhostOwl wrote: I agree. Sometimes mech shouldnt be viable in every matchup. Look at broodwar TvP, bio wasn't viable unless for early all-in's, but it turned out to be the most balanced matchup of all time Oh god... Oh. oh god.. just so wrong. There are countless of threads on this so I will leave you to your own digging. Here just so you can get started. | ||
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Jaded.
United States125 Posts
On June 11 2013 09:27 GhostOwl wrote: I agree. Sometimes mech shouldnt be viable in every matchup. Look at broodwar TvP, bio wasn't viable unless for early all-in's, but it turned out to be the most balanced matchup of all time People are complaining hellbats are too efficient for what they cost. Solution, take away medivac speed and raise cost of hellbats. 125 mineral/25 gas or 100 mineral/50 gas sounds very reasonable. Medivac speed is just unnecessary benefit T harassment has. Speed should either be taken away or cost 150 medivac energy to use so they cant be spammed Taking the medivac speed away would cripple terran's aggressive options so that's probably not going to happen. I agree with the energy cost thing but 150 is way too high maybe something more like 75 energy. Although that means templar feedback defense might not be as viable then  I'd agree with raising the cost to 125/25 or 100/50 while keeping the hellion the same 100 mins and still giving them the transform ability to be upgraded. This still provides meching players with the cheap beefy unit they need the just have to get the transform first and make hellions. | ||
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