EPT[SPL] Two men's argument - format of SPL - Page 3
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Lykkehjul
Norway82 Posts
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Gosi
Sweden9072 Posts
With that said, I like they way Proleague is doing it with having 2 rounds with all-kill format to change it up a little. But a teamleague shouldn't be decided by AK format like GSTL. Like look when MVP won GSTL and came like second or something too in 2011, it was pretty much all cuz of DongRaeGu. Their depth sucked, preperation was super bad from players and the coach because their tactic was to sacrifice every player they had in hope to get a win before DongRaeGu had to save the day. So awful. | ||
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nihlon
Sweden5581 Posts
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Fody03
Italy310 Posts
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Gorilla23
United States339 Posts
On April 12 2013 14:47 Evil_Sheep wrote: Proleague format is boring: endless mirror matches and a lot of subpar matches. With the current format, teams have to field 6 players each match which means teams need at least 8-9 players for sufficient depth, if not more. The result is a lot of low quality matches between b-teamers, or mismatches between aces and b-teamers. All-kill format is better, but I think what might be even better is a hybrid format: first 3 matches in proleague format with loser's map pick to pre-empt all the mirror matching, the next 3 in all-kill format, and the last being an ace match. This means we'd get to watch more ace-quality games without completely giving up the unique proleague format which does enable the players to get guaranteed games. Poll: Do you prefer Proleague format or All-Kill? Proleague (208) All-Kill (87) 295 total votes Your vote: Do you prefer Proleague format or All-Kill? All-kill format is subpar to me. The games simply will not be as good. If players prepare a specific map for a specific opponent, the chances of a quality game ARE higher. There's no way around it. | ||
Heyoka
Katowice25012 Posts
The mix SPL has is great, with WL coming in sometimes but not being the constant format. There is a lot of variety in games and prepared strategies that can only happen in a set-match format like that. Also it's way more cool for FPL. | ||
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Lorch
Germany3711 Posts
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On April 12 2013 17:40 Evil_Sheep wrote: I could name names but honestly it would just lead to an off-topic debate. The point is there are obviously b-teamers playing in proleague just like every other league b/c most players can't be Flash or Rain. Just because somebody isn't a top code S player doesn't mean that they're a b-teamer. It's not like we have ACE anymore; all teams are fielding players capable of taking down most other players on other teams on a good day. | ||
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mongmong
Korea (South)1389 Posts
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Northern_iight
Canada363 Posts
Allows of more interesting games with special strats prepared against your opponent. AK format leads to boring games as the winner of the first game will get sniped by opposing team, leading him to play standard most of the time. Which in turn leads to, who plays standard the best. ZvTs are Muta/ling/bling vs MMMM all day. | ||
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xwoGworwaTsx
United States984 Posts
On April 12 2013 15:35 Thinasy wrote: I prefer the current 4 Proleague, 2 WL format Yeah. makes more sense | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
Aside from that I prefer the All kill format as it needs a really good preparation and prediction of what the other side will do. While PL preparations are really easy compared to that. Of course the advantage/disadvantage will be highly prepared games. I can watch both though, but prefer Allkill, because it is more of a challenge for the team itself and involves the whole team preparing for it. While the other is just a bo9 where every set player just has to prepare a map. | ||
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
Watching someone all-kill is exciting but can you truly said his team is that won or him? | ||
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
Some people like one, some like the other - there should be a balance, and I really like what this season of Proleague has brought (4 rounds of proleague format, 2 rounds of allkill). I hope they keep this hybrid version | ||
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DiMano
Korea (South)2066 Posts
The Player wins in Winnersleague (ace player need to work hard to win and only there is no guruntee that other players will play and as we saw when FXO won GSTL Lucky and Leenock practiced really hard and were a bit upset not to play) | ||
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
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DiMano
Korea (South)2066 Posts
On April 13 2013 05:06 Zenbrez wrote: Btw does anybody like the Acer Story Cup format? It feels like an abonimation from my perspective It is bad and encourages 1 player to win not a team. | ||
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LighT.
Canada4501 Posts
- decreasing # of mirror matches - increasing the map pool so you have a mix of maps to play each week instead of the same old 7 And can be further popularized by: - having fans vote on which match up they would most like to see a week ahead of time for Set 1 - more interaction with the crowd ESports at the moment shouldnt be catering to the players but to the sport because it's not as well built up in Korea as BW was. | ||
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
On April 12 2013 14:47 Evil_Sheep wrote: Proleague format is boring: endless mirror matches and a lot of subpar matches. With the current format, teams have to field 6 players each match which means teams need at least 8-9 players for sufficient depth, if not more. The result is a lot of low quality matches between b-teamers, or mismatches between aces and b-teamers. All-kill format is better, but I think what might be even better is a hybrid format: first 3 matches in proleague format with loser's map pick to pre-empt all the mirror matching, the next 3 in all-kill format, and the last being an ace match. This means we'd get to watch more ace-quality games without completely giving up the unique proleague format which does enable the players to get guaranteed games. Poll: Do you prefer Proleague format or All-Kill? Proleague (208) All-Kill (87) 295 total votes Your vote: Do you prefer Proleague format or All-Kill? I argue that more AK makes it more boring because you'll have to do a ton of improv which means that being prepared is less important, and I find that it's always cool to read interviews about how players prepared specific builds or gamestyles tailored to their opponent. | ||
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achan1058
1091 Posts
On April 13 2013 06:23 LighT. wrote: I feel SPL can be improved by: - decreasing # of mirror matches - increasing the map pool so you have a mix of maps to play each week instead of the same old 7 And can be further popularized by: - having fans vote on which match up they would most like to see a week ahead of time for Set 1 - more interaction with the crowd ESports at the moment shouldnt be catering to the players but to the sport because it's not as well built up in Korea as BW was. But how do you decrease the number of mirrors? If a given map X favours a given race Y, then it is likely that both sides knows this, and send race Y to play it. | ||
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