EPTI would love for the best players ever to make it through, but it doesn't make sense for the true regional players to not get a chance. I dunno, this makes all of my brains hurt :/
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Noro
Canada991 Posts
I would love for the best players ever to make it through, but it doesn't make sense for the true regional players to not get a chance. I dunno, this makes all of my brains hurt :/ Blizzard: Please fix Esports? | ||
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LighT.
Canada4501 Posts
This really isnt that bad... As I said before youre essentially losing like 4-5 Code S players WCS KR is still going to be the toughest league. most of the very best eSF players are staying. Also it looks like MC vs MVP in every WCS EU Finals unless someone like Naniwa or MMA can pull a rabbit out of their hat. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=407201 Key quote: "How long do the players need to be available for the offline events? For Season 1, players in the WCS America and WCS Europe regions will need to be available for approximately 3–4 days for offline events. All WCS Korea matches are played offline. In the future, we will be looking to extend the offline portions of both WCS America and WCS Europe, so please be aware that this will change in coming seasons. Players will be expected to participate in all offline portions of the league they are committing to. " So it looks like later seasons there will be less of the seasons offline, though qualifiers may always be online. Hopefully the entire round of 32 will be offline next season. | ||
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vesicular
United States1311 Posts
Overall if this list turns out to be accurate it's an amazing success for WCS. | ||
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dacimvrl
Vatican City State582 Posts
On April 11 2013 00:18 Plansix wrote: Not really, there is this button that makes them go faster. Its easier to skip the downtime when its not live. and all of a sudden casual viewers are hardcore now and they subscribe to GSL which they don't even know or care for most of the players so they can watch vods.................. you defy logic.. so you said, you are a casual viewer, you don't care for koreans, you don't have time to watch all the games cuz leaves won't rake themselves, and yet you have access to GSL vods that you watch at work, and that you now apparently aren't casual and can spend more time to watch SC2 games.. so what the fuck are you talking about.. you can't argue both ways.. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On April 11 2013 00:26 dacimvrl wrote: You are still not getting the point..... It's obviously not sustainable. A tournament like GSL requires large sponsorships, and a decent number of subscribers to make it work. Hot6, LG, Sony...etc. sponsored GSLs before, who's gonna do that in NA? And how many people would actually subscribe to watch the players you listed play...... wake up.... Enough to keep it viable. Not everyone is you and the NA audience would watch an event to see who is the best in NA. Just like a lot of people tuned into WCS EU 2012. But, you can believe what you want. Sponsors would come to be part of the Blizzard run, North America League. | ||
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TimENT
United States1425 Posts
On April 11 2013 00:26 dacimvrl wrote: You are still not getting the point..... It's obviously not sustainable. A tournament like GSL requires large sponsorships, and a decent number of subscribers to make it work. Hot6, LG, Sony...etc. sponsored GSLs before, who's gonna do that in NA? And how many people would actually subscribe to watch the players you listed play...... wake up.... A shit ton of people WILL subscribe for Scarlett and Idra alone. Combined with all these KR players coming, JAEDONG, VIOLET, RYUNG, MOTHERFUCKING POLT. Oh and, who wouldn't subscribe to all 3 of these amazing tournaments? Oh, and who wouldn't sponsor all 3 of these regions? This shits about to blow up so hard. | ||
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lord_nibbler
Germany591 Posts
On April 10 2013 23:50 BeyondCtrL wrote: ... When the regional WCS become all offline the Koreans and Korean teams (only Incredible Miracle has so far dedicated players, all other teams are foreign owned) can consider permanently relocating to another region. Once this begins happening the level of play in regions should start improving further. ... Step Two: Woo Korean teams and infrastructure with money that is not completely centralized in Seoul. Get them accustomed to the prospect that relocating is feasible. If the initial region locks are too severe then regions will become too insulated and will actually hurt long term growth. ... Your point of view leaves me speechless. Seriously, like what the ..? How big and wealthy do you think Korean teams are? What kind of unique asset do they posses? Why would you think that teams would have to be transfered anywhere? Or even could or wanted to? Do you get what a sponsor does? What his interests are? I am worried, either you (and the people praising your post) or me are living in a parallel universe, because your text made no economic sense to me. | ||
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SinCitta
Germany2127 Posts
But: How can Blizzard communicate this so badly? And why is everything so rushed? There should have been at least a month between the announcement and the first league that uses the system, not a day. Moreover, are we sure that the NA scene can hold on for another year without most of the players retiring and the teams surviving for another year? Why do we go from a hard region lock to a no-region-lock? It will be a mess when Koreans have to switch back if they can't move to their region next year. I think ESL is perfectly able to host an all-offline WCS season by season 2, provided they receive the necessary funds by Blizzard. They have everything in place for LCS already. And I can imagine MLG never wants to lag behind. When everything works as it should in 2014, a lot of momentum and passion will be lost already. | ||
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TimENT
United States1425 Posts
On April 11 2013 00:26 Bagi wrote: Has Stephano actually said he will take part in NA WCS? I thought he was going back to France soon. No idea lmao | ||
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LighT.
Canada4501 Posts
On April 10 2013 23:46 Lukeeze[zR] wrote: This is insane, no more reason to purchase a gom ticket as far as i'm concerned. What are you talking about.. 20 players off the top of my head: Bomber Life Flash Soulkey Roro Jangbi Rain Fantasy DRG Innovation Parting Squirtle sOs MKP Gumiho Leenock Byun Supernova jjakji Symbol Just because a few Code S players and a few players with personalities switch over, its suddenly not worth the ticket anymore? | ||
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R1CH
Netherlands10342 Posts
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dacimvrl
Vatican City State582 Posts
On April 11 2013 00:30 TimENT wrote: A shit ton of people WILL subscribe for Scarlett and Idra alone. Combined with all these KR players coming, JAEDONG, VIOLET, RYUNG, MOTHERFUCKING POLT. Oh and, who wouldn't subscribe to all 3 of these amazing tournaments? Oh, and who wouldn't sponsor all 3 of these regions? This shits about to blow up so hard. err, for the record, scroll up, he said a GSL tournament with 32 NA players only, so that means no violet, ryung, polt, jaedong...but with players he listed like combat-ex | ||
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
On April 11 2013 00:27 Plansix wrote: More information on WCS about later seasons: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=407201 Key quote: "How long do the players need to be available for the offline events? For Season 1, players in the WCS America and WCS Europe regions will need to be available for approximately 3–4 days for offline events. All WCS Korea matches are played offline. In the future, we will be looking to extend the offline portions of both WCS America and WCS Europe, so please be aware that this will change in coming seasons. Players will be expected to participate in all offline portions of the league they are committing to. " So it looks like later seasons there will be less of the seasons offline, though qualifiers may always be online. Hopefully the entire round of 32 will be offline next season. What the... according to the schedule posted at esfi, the players need to be available for 2 weeks (the first for ro16, the second for ro8 and onwards). What is going on here? Contradicting information everywhere! source: http://www.esfiworld.com/wcs-america-europe-formats-detailed-invited-players-to-be-announced-april-12th/ | ||
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KanoCoke
Japan863 Posts
Blizzard, what exactly are you trying to do here? | ||
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BestWaffelz
14 Posts
Is grubby not playing? | ||
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blackone
Germany1314 Posts
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vesicular
United States1311 Posts
On April 11 2013 00:32 R1CH wrote: I'm okay with how this turned out with very few Koreans on non-foreign teams playing US. Disappointing news for sure for local talent, but at least we're not getting "faceless" Koreans thanks to the marketing and visibility associated with being on a foreign team, Blizzard has to be pretty happy about that. Exactly, Koreans on foreign teams *should* be in foreign WCS events. People are forgetting about the TEAMS here and only thinking about the players. Blizzard has to be thrilled if this list is accurate. | ||
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LighT.
Canada4501 Posts
On April 11 2013 00:34 blackone wrote: A full year without GSL for MVP, so sad To be honest his team was dwindling as the Kespa guys switch over and his wrist problems worsening. | ||
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SoniC_eu
Denmark1008 Posts
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