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On April 03 2013 23:31 Proseat wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2013 23:29 NightOfTheDead wrote:On April 03 2013 23:24 Proseat wrote:On April 03 2013 23:19 sitromit wrote:On April 03 2013 23:07 Proseat wrote:On April 03 2013 23:01 DiMano wrote:On April 03 2013 22:58 Qikz wrote:On April 03 2013 22:55 DiMano wrote:
GSL and OSL is the same tournament with same players and top 8 Code S GSL players will be seeded in OSL? If yes it is stupid as then there is no difference at all. They're different tournaments, they both just feed into the same tournament. See for example a school system. You have 2 primary schools (6-11) which then feed into the same senior school (11-17) which doesn't mean they're the same schools they come from, just that they end up in the same place. Well my question is will all players start from Code B to qualify for OSL or not? It was mentioned (on Twitter I believe) that OnGameNet will hold a special qualifier to fill up the Ro32. Fill up because I still think that GSL and OSL will be interconnected because they're both basically the same tournament called WCS Korea. No, OSL is just another GSL season with a different name, produced by OGN basically. There is no separate qualifier. There's only 1 Code A and Code S for both tournaments. Whichever players finish top 8 in this season of GSL will be in OSL's Code S or Premier League with the new name Blizzard gave it. The rest will come from this season's Code A, just like it does from one season of GSL to the next. The same thing will happen from OSL to the next season of GSL. Basically, OSL = what GSL Season 3 would have been, produced by OGN, GSL Season 3 = what GSL Season 4 would have been. That's what I was assuming as well (see my earlier posts in here). But then there was this in the gamespot.com article: The tournament structure has been modeled off of GSL's Code S, Code A, and Code B system and is called Premier, Challenger, and Qualifier. This structure will run for all partners including MLG and ESL. The Challenger events will run slightly different in North America and Europe due to logistics in travel. Players will be able to move up and down within their own region as players do in GSL. Only the OSL will have differences, where there will be an additional Round of 32 added on played in a best of one format. So they say that Code A aka Challenger league will be played online in NA and EU. What about premier aka Code S in NA and EU? Is it also online? If not how will players be playing it daily when they are all over inland Europe/America? Apparently, Ro16 onwards will be offline in all regions. So WCS America at the MLG studios in New York / USA, WCS Europe at the ESL studios in Cologne / Germany. From the same article: All matches in Korea will be played in studio through GomTV's StarLeague or OnGameNet's StarLeague, while North America and Europe will play Online until the top 16 players. Those top 16 players will compete in a studio environment to determine the best five players in each region.
So there are 2 things to add then. Ro16 and onward offline in NA/EU it seems to be played in a succession of few days aka weekend then. I cant imagine any other options. Also, up to Ro16 online introduces possibilities of cheating. Surely, WCS KR will still be top quality in this regard and also the most difficult then. A lot of Koreans will try luck NA, EU, that's very very likely.
@Proseat thnx for explanations, appreciated.
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Wait guys, Mike Morhaime says that it will be free to watch on twitch in 720p. But if GSL = WCS Korea does it mean that we will have GSL in 720p free on twitch?
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As sour I feel about the cross-server participation and the expected Korean dominance, it is what it is. Competition in SC2 is just that Korean-heavy right now, so it makes sense to open the tournaments to get a reasonable outcome. In the long run, by investing money and centralizing tournament structure, Blizzard strengthens pro-gaming as a career choice outside of Korea, so talent can be attracted and raised, as well as infrastructure. When there are 16 players in each region who can seriously compete against each other, I´m all for localization. But until then, bring in the Koreans competition, because otherwise the world finals first round could be discarded like last MLG´s ro32.
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On April 03 2013 23:41 Kylo55 wrote:
Wait guys, Mike Morhaime says that it will be free to watch on twitch in 720p. But if GSL = WCS Korea does it mean that we will have GSL in 720p free on twitch?
As I understand yes and VODs are not free (it was not said that they are free at least).
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On April 03 2013 23:41 Proseat wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2013 23:39 sitromit wrote:On April 03 2013 23:24 Proseat wrote:On April 03 2013 23:19 sitromit wrote:On April 03 2013 23:07 Proseat wrote:On April 03 2013 23:01 DiMano wrote:On April 03 2013 22:58 Qikz wrote:On April 03 2013 22:55 DiMano wrote:
GSL and OSL is the same tournament with same players and top 8 Code S GSL players will be seeded in OSL? If yes it is stupid as then there is no difference at all. They're different tournaments, they both just feed into the same tournament. See for example a school system. You have 2 primary schools (6-11) which then feed into the same senior school (11-17) which doesn't mean they're the same schools they come from, just that they end up in the same place. Well my question is will all players start from Code B to qualify for OSL or not? It was mentioned (on Twitter I believe) that OnGameNet will hold a special qualifier to fill up the Ro32. Fill up because I still think that GSL and OSL will be interconnected because they're both basically the same tournament called WCS Korea. No, OSL is just another GSL season with a different name, produced by OGN basically. There is no separate qualifier. There's only 1 Code A and Code S for both tournaments. Whichever players finish top 8 in this season of GSL will be in OSL's Code S or Premier League with the new name Blizzard gave it. The rest will come from this season's Code A, just like it does from one season of GSL to the next. The same thing will happen from OSL to the next season of GSL. Basically, OSL = what GSL Season 3 would have been, produced by OGN, GSL Season 3 = what GSL Season 4 would have been. That's what I was assuming as well (see my earlier posts in here). But then there was this in the gamespot.com article: The tournament structure has been modeled off of GSL's Code S, Code A, and Code B system and is called Premier, Challenger, and Qualifier. This structure will run for all partners including MLG and ESL. The Challenger events will run slightly different in North America and Europe due to logistics in travel. Players will be able to move up and down within their own region as players do in GSL. Only the OSL will have differences, where there will be an additional Round of 32 added on played in a best of one format. Hmm, I don't know about the bolded part. For there to be continuity, they can't use 2 different formats for GSL and OSL. How can they tack on a bo1 ro32 to the GSL format without breaking it? And bo1 sounds just awful. That's what I'm wondering myself. Maybe this is their version of Code B qualifiers? Although that would be strange. Possibly a one-time thing? Oh well, I guess we'll see eventually.
Hmm, I think it might be something like the extra spots GSL sometimes used to keep for seeds. So maybe, let's say OSL seeds 2 players into Code S through a 32 player bo1 bracket, kind of like a separate qualifier. I guess that's possible.
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On April 03 2013 23:41 Kylo55 wrote:
Wait guys, Mike Morhaime says that it will be free to watch on twitch in 720p. But if GSL = WCS Korea does it mean that we will have GSL in 720p free on twitch?
streams will be free on twitch.tv at 720p, but if you want VODs, they are left to the discretion of the individual tournaments. That's what Mike Morhaime said.
Ah, finally, we can read the supply numbers!!
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On April 03 2013 23:47 dacimvrl wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2013 23:41 Kylo55 wrote:
Wait guys, Mike Morhaime says that it will be free to watch on twitch in 720p. But if GSL = WCS Korea does it mean that we will have GSL in 720p free on twitch? streams will be free on twitch.tv at 720p, but if you want VODs, they are left to the discretion of the individual tournaments. That's what Mike Morhaime said. Ah, finally, we can read the supply numbers!!
Well i see that reading supply on free gom stream was not only my problem 
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On April 03 2013 23:40 Incomplet wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2013 23:33 opterown wrote:On April 03 2013 23:30 Incomplet wrote:On April 03 2013 23:26 Doodsmack wrote:On April 03 2013 23:17 Incomplet wrote:
I've never quite understood the phobia people have of Korean dominance.
Because you cant relate to the person? Get to know them! Read their interviews, check out their liquidpedias, and go watch the bloody GSL, I guarantee you that this will the best well spent money you have ever spent!
Or is it because of the Koreans have no personality stereotype? 5 mins of searching through google or TL will prove yourself wrong. It's not hard to find a funny GIF of a Korean doing silly celebrations which no foreigners have never dared do in the public eye.
Or is it mindless patriotism for their country folks? C'mon this is a computer game, are you really liking a certain player because he merely from the same country as you? Who cares about that, don't let patriotism / racism cloud your judgement of what truly entertaining and skilllful sc2 games are.
Koreans already dominate the scene as it is, in the worse case scenario, nothing will change and the dominance will continue. But maybe, just MAYBE, this could help give that motivational push to drive the foreign players to work harder. At the very least, rather than giving in to your reflex action to automatically dismiss all drastic changes in defence, just let it play out for a bit before passing judgement. Lol @ bringing the racism word into discussions about people rooting for their own country rather than Koreans. It's called being a fan, you choose your favorite, usually based on proximity, and root for them rather than rooting for whoever has the most skill from month to month. It's only natural to have pride about where you're from, and its just unintelligent to use the word racism here. Proud losers. In sc2, it would make more sense to barrack for someone who impresses you with their play style or personality. Not what country they are bloody from. Despicable. I think it's perfectly fair to root for your own country's players, especially if you're a fairly casual viewer. kind of like in the olympics. in general, you root for your country, not for the personalities of individual athletes etc This is not the Olympics though. Of course I understand what I say will not change the fact people will mindlessly barrack for their own country no matter the sport. But I still find it disgusting that the mindless sheep will always just follow what is familiar to them with no sense of autonomy what so ever to make a rational decision on what is truly important in the characteristics of each player.
You are over generalizing the scene and the reasons why people want local leagues and tournaments in an effort to make your argument of racism. People don’t care about the race of the player, because there are Asian players in NA that we cheer for(Suppy). People want a league for NA in the style of GSL, on at a reasonable time and with the option for local players to attempt to compete in that event. People do not care about who plays as much as they want the option for players to play in their region, rather than fly to Korea.
We don’t care were people are from, but we want an open league like the GSL that allows for players to compete locally. After that, the community really doesn’t care who shows up to qualify.
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On April 03 2013 23:40 Incomplet wrote:
This is not the Olympics though.
Of course I understand what I say will not change the fact people will mindlessly barrack for their own country no matter the sport. But I still find it disgusting that the mindless sheep will always just follow what is familiar to them with no sense of autonomy what so ever to make a rational decision on what is truly important in the characteristics of each player.
I personally root for Vortix and Lucifron because they study (studied? I don't know anymore) about two hundred meters away from where I do, so I might see them someday on the subway and get super excited about it.
That's rational as balls, man.
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On April 03 2013 23:40 Incomplet wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2013 23:33 opterown wrote:On April 03 2013 23:30 Incomplet wrote:On April 03 2013 23:26 Doodsmack wrote:On April 03 2013 23:17 Incomplet wrote:
I've never quite understood the phobia people have of Korean dominance.
Because you cant relate to the person? Get to know them! Read their interviews, check out their liquidpedias, and go watch the bloody GSL, I guarantee you that this will the best well spent money you have ever spent!
Or is it because of the Koreans have no personality stereotype? 5 mins of searching through google or TL will prove yourself wrong. It's not hard to find a funny GIF of a Korean doing silly celebrations which no foreigners have never dared do in the public eye.
Or is it mindless patriotism for their country folks? C'mon this is a computer game, are you really liking a certain player because he merely from the same country as you? Who cares about that, don't let patriotism / racism cloud your judgement of what truly entertaining and skilllful sc2 games are.
Koreans already dominate the scene as it is, in the worse case scenario, nothing will change and the dominance will continue. But maybe, just MAYBE, this could help give that motivational push to drive the foreign players to work harder. At the very least, rather than giving in to your reflex action to automatically dismiss all drastic changes in defence, just let it play out for a bit before passing judgement. Lol @ bringing the racism word into discussions about people rooting for their own country rather than Koreans. It's called being a fan, you choose your favorite, usually based on proximity, and root for them rather than rooting for whoever has the most skill from month to month. It's only natural to have pride about where you're from, and its just unintelligent to use the word racism here. Proud losers. In sc2, it would make more sense to barrack for someone who impresses you with their play style or personality. Not what country they are bloody from. Despicable. I think it's perfectly fair to root for your own country's players, especially if you're a fairly casual viewer. kind of like in the olympics. in general, you root for your country, not for the personalities of individual athletes etc This is not the Olympics though. Of course I understand what I say will not change the fact people will mindlessly barrack for their own country no matter the sport. But I still find it disgusting that the mindless sheep will always just follow what is familiar to them with no sense of autonomy what so ever to make a rational decision on what is truly important in the characteristics of each player.
I think it definitely helps with the storyline e.g. WCS EU had players from pretty much every EU country there and it would be fun seeing all the dutch cheer for grubby, the germans for socke, etc. i don't think it's bad to have nationalism, as it gets the fans invested in players, which is a good thing for the scene.
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On April 03 2013 23:17 Incomplet wrote:
I've never quite understood the phobia people have of Korean dominance.
Because you cant relate to the person? Get to know them! Read their interviews, check out their liquidpedias, and go watch the bloody GSL, I guarantee you that this will the best well spent money you have ever spent!
Or is it because of the Koreans have no personality stereotype? 5 mins of searching through google or TL will prove yourself wrong. It's not hard to find a funny GIF of a Korean doing silly celebrations which no foreigners have never dared do in the public eye.
Or is it mindless patriotism for their country folks? C'mon this is a computer game, are you really liking a certain player because he merely from the same country as you? Who cares about that, don't let patriotism / racism cloud your judgement of what truly entertaining and skilllful sc2 games are.
Koreans already dominate the scene as it is, in the worse case scenario, nothing will change and the dominance will continue. But maybe, just MAYBE, this could help give that motivational push to drive the foreign players to work harder. At the very least, rather than giving in to your reflex action to automatically dismiss all drastic changes in defence, just let it play out for a bit before passing judgement.
You have it a bit off here. Some of us enjoy both. I have my favorite Koreans, and my favorite foreigners.
I always cheer for a foreigner against a Korean in an MLG or DH, but that doesn't mean I don't enjoy GSL. Korean TvT is one of the best things to watch in all of SC2.
However, there's just that X factor, that underdog story. We want the little guy to win SOMETIMES. Upsets are more exciting than sweeps.
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On April 03 2013 23:47 dacimvrl wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2013 23:41 Kylo55 wrote:
Wait guys, Mike Morhaime says that it will be free to watch on twitch in 720p. But if GSL = WCS Korea does it mean that we will have GSL in 720p free on twitch? streams will be free on twitch.tv at 720p, but if you want VODs, they are left to the discretion of the individual tournaments. That's what Mike Morhaime said. Ah, finally, we can read the supply numbers!!
Hmm so it looks like I'll have to pay for it anyway. No way i'm staying up from 2-6am on a work day xd
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Best thing to happen ever!
This year is going to be awesome! and next year is going to be better!!
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On April 03 2013 23:49 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2013 23:40 Incomplet wrote:On April 03 2013 23:33 opterown wrote:On April 03 2013 23:30 Incomplet wrote:On April 03 2013 23:26 Doodsmack wrote:On April 03 2013 23:17 Incomplet wrote:
I've never quite understood the phobia people have of Korean dominance.
Because you cant relate to the person? Get to know them! Read their interviews, check out their liquidpedias, and go watch the bloody GSL, I guarantee you that this will the best well spent money you have ever spent!
Or is it because of the Koreans have no personality stereotype? 5 mins of searching through google or TL will prove yourself wrong. It's not hard to find a funny GIF of a Korean doing silly celebrations which no foreigners have never dared do in the public eye.
Or is it mindless patriotism for their country folks? C'mon this is a computer game, are you really liking a certain player because he merely from the same country as you? Who cares about that, don't let patriotism / racism cloud your judgement of what truly entertaining and skilllful sc2 games are.
Koreans already dominate the scene as it is, in the worse case scenario, nothing will change and the dominance will continue. But maybe, just MAYBE, this could help give that motivational push to drive the foreign players to work harder. At the very least, rather than giving in to your reflex action to automatically dismiss all drastic changes in defence, just let it play out for a bit before passing judgement. Lol @ bringing the racism word into discussions about people rooting for their own country rather than Koreans. It's called being a fan, you choose your favorite, usually based on proximity, and root for them rather than rooting for whoever has the most skill from month to month. It's only natural to have pride about where you're from, and its just unintelligent to use the word racism here. Proud losers. In sc2, it would make more sense to barrack for someone who impresses you with their play style or personality. Not what country they are bloody from. Despicable. I think it's perfectly fair to root for your own country's players, especially if you're a fairly casual viewer. kind of like in the olympics. in general, you root for your country, not for the personalities of individual athletes etc This is not the Olympics though. Of course I understand what I say will not change the fact people will mindlessly barrack for their own country no matter the sport. But I still find it disgusting that the mindless sheep will always just follow what is familiar to them with no sense of autonomy what so ever to make a rational decision on what is truly important in the characteristics of each player. You are over generalizing the scene and the reasons why people want local leagues and tournaments in an effort to make your argument of racism. People don’t care about the race of the player, because there are Asian players in NA that we cheer for(Suppy). People want a league for NA in the style of GSL, on at a reasonable time and with the option for local players to attempt to compete in that event. People do not care about who plays as much as they want the option for players to play in their region, rather than fly to Korea. We don’t care were people are from, but we want an open league like the GSL that allows for players to compete locally. After that, the community really doesn’t care who shows up to qualify.
While I understand your POV. Unfortunately the majority of critism is directed at the potential further Korean dominance. Spoon feeding foreign players into the finals is not going to help in the long run, throwing them in the deep end and telling them, train harder until you can keep up us how you do it. Most of the players are adults and they need to treated like adults. And as an adult, you realise the results you obtain have a direct correlation to the effort you put in.
And that extra prize money, as well as tougher competition on their home turf, may very well be the source of that extra motivation.
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On April 03 2013 23:52 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2013 23:40 Incomplet wrote:On April 03 2013 23:33 opterown wrote:On April 03 2013 23:30 Incomplet wrote:On April 03 2013 23:26 Doodsmack wrote:On April 03 2013 23:17 Incomplet wrote:
I've never quite understood the phobia people have of Korean dominance.
Because you cant relate to the person? Get to know them! Read their interviews, check out their liquidpedias, and go watch the bloody GSL, I guarantee you that this will the best well spent money you have ever spent!
Or is it because of the Koreans have no personality stereotype? 5 mins of searching through google or TL will prove yourself wrong. It's not hard to find a funny GIF of a Korean doing silly celebrations which no foreigners have never dared do in the public eye.
Or is it mindless patriotism for their country folks? C'mon this is a computer game, are you really liking a certain player because he merely from the same country as you? Who cares about that, don't let patriotism / racism cloud your judgement of what truly entertaining and skilllful sc2 games are.
Koreans already dominate the scene as it is, in the worse case scenario, nothing will change and the dominance will continue. But maybe, just MAYBE, this could help give that motivational push to drive the foreign players to work harder. At the very least, rather than giving in to your reflex action to automatically dismiss all drastic changes in defence, just let it play out for a bit before passing judgement. Lol @ bringing the racism word into discussions about people rooting for their own country rather than Koreans. It's called being a fan, you choose your favorite, usually based on proximity, and root for them rather than rooting for whoever has the most skill from month to month. It's only natural to have pride about where you're from, and its just unintelligent to use the word racism here. Proud losers. In sc2, it would make more sense to barrack for someone who impresses you with their play style or personality. Not what country they are bloody from. Despicable. I think it's perfectly fair to root for your own country's players, especially if you're a fairly casual viewer. kind of like in the olympics. in general, you root for your country, not for the personalities of individual athletes etc This is not the Olympics though. Of course I understand what I say will not change the fact people will mindlessly barrack for their own country no matter the sport. But I still find it disgusting that the mindless sheep will always just follow what is familiar to them with no sense of autonomy what so ever to make a rational decision on what is truly important in the characteristics of each player. I think it definitely helps with the storyline e.g. WCS EU had players from pretty much every EU country there and it would be fun seeing all the dutch cheer for grubby, the germans for socke, etc. i don't think it's bad to have nationalism, as it gets the fans invested in players, which is a good thing for the scene.
storyline................like wrestling? /lol
Why do you even enjoy watching starcraft? During a super high level match like Life vs Flash at the last MLG, does anyone actually go hey - they are from korea, let's not cheer for them or w/e. No. And the whole nationalism bs is nothing short of retarded. What if it's an European born Korean that's really good? I already know your answer, see, it's simply mindless! So, essentially, it all boils down to where the players' parents had sex and gave birth to them.
Now, why would any sane person care where the players' parents chose to have sex? It has absolutely nothing to do with starcraft, at all.
Support the players, don't mindless support where the player is from.
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On April 03 2013 23:54 blagoonga123 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2013 23:47 dacimvrl wrote:On April 03 2013 23:41 Kylo55 wrote:
Wait guys, Mike Morhaime says that it will be free to watch on twitch in 720p. But if GSL = WCS Korea does it mean that we will have GSL in 720p free on twitch? streams will be free on twitch.tv at 720p, but if you want VODs, they are left to the discretion of the individual tournaments. That's what Mike Morhaime said. Ah, finally, we can read the supply numbers!! Hmm so it looks like I'll have to pay for it anyway. No way i'm staying up from 2-6am on a work day xd
I feel your pain, brother.
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Sounds pretty exciting!
Hope to see an all-Korean top 8.
Korea fighting!!!
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This is pretty nice, noticable progress, yet as always with blizzard, not really as good as it could have been. Don't know shit about what happens inside, but as many have pointed out, there are clear flaws that come with this new system.
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I think the WCS should be a good thing. Regarding the issue of Koreans going to NA/EU to get spots, I can understand the debate.
- On one side, it is clear that the need to stay a year-long in one of the areas can definetly help professionalize and improve e-sports outside of Korea. Mostly, I believe, thanks to the structures such transfers will require.
- On the other side, however, to compare e-sport to sports in general, it's kind of like if you had Chinese ping-pong athletes qualifying for the Olympics in every country. I don't know how this would help the rest of countries to improve. Of course, I know this is not possible as you have to register for a specific country and have citizenship in the olympics scenario, which the WCS doesn't implement.
I don't mean to get into a debate and will not post any further, I just wanted to share the two points of view one can have regarding this announcement.
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On April 03 2013 23:59 dacimvrl wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2013 23:52 opterown wrote:On April 03 2013 23:40 Incomplet wrote:On April 03 2013 23:33 opterown wrote:On April 03 2013 23:30 Incomplet wrote:On April 03 2013 23:26 Doodsmack wrote:On April 03 2013 23:17 Incomplet wrote:
I've never quite understood the phobia people have of Korean dominance.
Because you cant relate to the person? Get to know them! Read their interviews, check out their liquidpedias, and go watch the bloody GSL, I guarantee you that this will the best well spent money you have ever spent!
Or is it because of the Koreans have no personality stereotype? 5 mins of searching through google or TL will prove yourself wrong. It's not hard to find a funny GIF of a Korean doing silly celebrations which no foreigners have never dared do in the public eye.
Or is it mindless patriotism for their country folks? C'mon this is a computer game, are you really liking a certain player because he merely from the same country as you? Who cares about that, don't let patriotism / racism cloud your judgement of what truly entertaining and skilllful sc2 games are.
Koreans already dominate the scene as it is, in the worse case scenario, nothing will change and the dominance will continue. But maybe, just MAYBE, this could help give that motivational push to drive the foreign players to work harder. At the very least, rather than giving in to your reflex action to automatically dismiss all drastic changes in defence, just let it play out for a bit before passing judgement. Lol @ bringing the racism word into discussions about people rooting for their own country rather than Koreans. It's called being a fan, you choose your favorite, usually based on proximity, and root for them rather than rooting for whoever has the most skill from month to month. It's only natural to have pride about where you're from, and its just unintelligent to use the word racism here. Proud losers. In sc2, it would make more sense to barrack for someone who impresses you with their play style or personality. Not what country they are bloody from. Despicable. I think it's perfectly fair to root for your own country's players, especially if you're a fairly casual viewer. kind of like in the olympics. in general, you root for your country, not for the personalities of individual athletes etc This is not the Olympics though. Of course I understand what I say will not change the fact people will mindlessly barrack for their own country no matter the sport. But I still find it disgusting that the mindless sheep will always just follow what is familiar to them with no sense of autonomy what so ever to make a rational decision on what is truly important in the characteristics of each player. I think it definitely helps with the storyline e.g. WCS EU had players from pretty much every EU country there and it would be fun seeing all the dutch cheer for grubby, the germans for socke, etc. i don't think it's bad to have nationalism, as it gets the fans invested in players, which is a good thing for the scene. storyline................like wrestling? /lol Why do you even enjoy watching starcraft? During a super high level match like Life vs Flash at the last MLG, does anyone actually go hey - they are from korea, let's not cheer for them or w/e. No. And the whole nationalism bs is nothing short of retarded. What if it's an European born Korean that's really good? I already know your answer, see, it's simply mindless! So, essentially, it all boils down to where the players' parents had sex and gave birth to them. Now, why would any sane person care where the players' parents chose to have sex? It has absolutely nothing to do with starcraft, at all. Support the players, don't mindless support where the player is from.
this is the attitude of a fairly dedicated starcraft fan, but that's not the entire fanbase. those storylines, however, help with the more casual viewers. i'm not a casual viewer and hold your view as my own personal opinion, but i also think it's important to appeal to the more mainstream viewers in order to expand our scene. and that's where giving people convenient players to root for helps :D
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