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On April 03 2013 23:20 TheSir wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2013 23:15 opterown wrote:On April 03 2013 23:14 TheSir wrote:On April 03 2013 22:53 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On April 03 2013 22:46 DOUDOU wrote:On April 03 2013 22:42 chipmonklord17 wrote:On April 03 2013 22:38 Bagi wrote:On April 03 2013 22:36 DOUDOU wrote:
someone tell me
WHERE THE HELL is dreamhack in all of this? Independent tournament where players from all regions can partake and most likely also get some WCS points in the process. I think people are downplaying the importance of events that got "left out", they will still be as good as ever and best of all there will be no artificial restrictions to their player pools. What I'm most curious about is does all this working together stuff mean that dreamhack's (I guess NASL's too) player pool actually increases and that they can get kespa guys to play in their events too i am worried independent tournaments will receive much less attention, same way it does for lol i believe if gom and ogn can alternate hosting of the events, why can't IEM and DH do? afaik, DH production is world class, and certainly much better than ogn also, what happens to my ogn subscription Dreamhack player pools are usually poor though. Define poor.... and with Dreamhack being basically the only open big 'LAN' event left where are teams going to send their players to otherwise? look at the player pool for Stockholm this year and last year.... DH does only benefit from this WCS if you can also score points at Dreamhack. MLG and IEM etc still exist as weekend tournaments I know but MLG has no open spots so you dont need a travel budget for that as a team anymore. IEM doesn't start until August? and most spots are paid as well with a small open bracket. There aren't a lot of tournaments left you need travel money for... IPL gone, ASUS ROG gone? etc etc
i don't think IEM actually pays for travel does it?
MLG might change back, i have no idea how the format will be like in the future
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What about Nasl, and any news on IPL?
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On April 03 2013 23:19 sitromit wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2013 23:07 Proseat wrote:On April 03 2013 23:01 DiMano wrote:On April 03 2013 22:58 Qikz wrote:On April 03 2013 22:55 DiMano wrote:
GSL and OSL is the same tournament with same players and top 8 Code S GSL players will be seeded in OSL? If yes it is stupid as then there is no difference at all. They're different tournaments, they both just feed into the same tournament. See for example a school system. You have 2 primary schools (6-11) which then feed into the same senior school (11-17) which doesn't mean they're the same schools they come from, just that they end up in the same place. Well my question is will all players start from Code B to qualify for OSL or not? It was mentioned (on Twitter I believe) that OnGameNet will hold a special qualifier to fill up the Ro32. Fill up because I still think that GSL and OSL will be interconnected because they're both basically the same tournament called WCS Korea. No, OSL is just another GSL season with a different name, produced by OGN basically. There is no separate qualifier. There's only 1 Code A and Code S for both tournaments. Whichever players finish top 8 in this season of GSL will be in OSL's Code S or Premier League with the new name Blizzard gave it. The rest will come from this season's Code A, just like it does from one season of GSL to the next. The same thing will happen from OSL to the next season of GSL. Basically, OSL = what GSL Season 3 would have been, produced by OGN, GSL Season 3 = what GSL Season 4 would have been.
That's what I was assuming as well (see my earlier posts in here).
But then there was this in the gamespot.com article:
The tournament structure has been modeled off of GSL's Code S, Code A, and Code B system and is called Premier, Challenger, and Qualifier. This structure will run for all partners including MLG and ESL. The Challenger events will run slightly different in North America and Europe due to logistics in travel. Players will be able to move up and down within their own region as players do in GSL. Only the OSL will have differences, where there will be an additional Round of 32 added on played in a best of one format.
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On April 03 2013 23:17 Incomplet wrote:
I've never quite understood the phobia people have of Korean dominance.
Because you cant relate to the person? Get to know them! Read their interviews, check out their liquidpedias, and go watch the bloody GSL, I guarantee you that this will the best well spent money you have ever spent!
Or is it because of the Koreans have no personality stereotype? 5 mins of searching through google or TL will prove yourself wrong. It's not hard to find a funny GIF of a Korean doing silly celebrations which no foreigners have never dared do in the public eye.
Or is it mindless patriotism for their country folks? C'mon this is a computer game, are you really liking a certain player because he merely from the same country as you? Who cares about that, don't let patriotism / racism cloud your judgement of what truly entertaining and skilllful sc2 games are.
Koreans already dominate the scene as it is, in the worse case scenario, nothing will change and the dominance will continue. But maybe, just MAYBE, this could help give that motivational push to drive the foreign players to work harder. At the very least, rather than giving in to your reflex action to automatically dismiss all drastic changes in defence, just let it play out for a bit before passing judgement.
Lol @ bringing the racism word into discussions about people rooting for their own country rather than Koreans. It's called being a fan, you choose your favorite, usually based on proximity, and root for them rather than rooting for whoever has the most skill from month to month. It's only natural to have pride about where you're from, and its just unintelligent to use the word racism here.
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On April 03 2013 22:58 Qikz wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2013 22:55 DiMano wrote:
GSL and OSL is the same tournament with same players and top 8 Code S GSL players will be seeded in OSL? If yes it is stupid as then there is no difference at all. They're different tournaments, they both just feed into the same tournament. See for example a school system. You have 2 primary schools (6-11) which then feed into the same senior school (11-17) which doesn't mean they're the same schools they come from, just that they end up in the same place.
Only if your 2 primary schools will alternate feeding students every year. And during the year that one primary school will not feed students, all faculties will be on vacation, only good teachers will serve as consultants for faculties from the other primary school.
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On April 03 2013 23:24 Proseat wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2013 23:19 sitromit wrote:On April 03 2013 23:07 Proseat wrote:On April 03 2013 23:01 DiMano wrote:On April 03 2013 22:58 Qikz wrote:On April 03 2013 22:55 DiMano wrote:
GSL and OSL is the same tournament with same players and top 8 Code S GSL players will be seeded in OSL? If yes it is stupid as then there is no difference at all. They're different tournaments, they both just feed into the same tournament. See for example a school system. You have 2 primary schools (6-11) which then feed into the same senior school (11-17) which doesn't mean they're the same schools they come from, just that they end up in the same place. Well my question is will all players start from Code B to qualify for OSL or not? It was mentioned (on Twitter I believe) that OnGameNet will hold a special qualifier to fill up the Ro32. Fill up because I still think that GSL and OSL will be interconnected because they're both basically the same tournament called WCS Korea. No, OSL is just another GSL season with a different name, produced by OGN basically. There is no separate qualifier. There's only 1 Code A and Code S for both tournaments. Whichever players finish top 8 in this season of GSL will be in OSL's Code S or Premier League with the new name Blizzard gave it. The rest will come from this season's Code A, just like it does from one season of GSL to the next. The same thing will happen from OSL to the next season of GSL. Basically, OSL = what GSL Season 3 would have been, produced by OGN, GSL Season 3 = what GSL Season 4 would have been. That's what I was assuming as well (see my earlier posts in here). But then there was this in the gamespot.com article: The tournament structure has been modeled off of GSL's Code S, Code A, and Code B system and is called Premier, Challenger, and Qualifier. This structure will run for all partners including MLG and ESL. The Challenger events will run slightly different in North America and Europe due to logistics in travel. Players will be able to move up and down within their own region as players do in GSL. Only the OSL will have differences, where there will be an additional Round of 32 added on played in a best of one format.
So they say that Code A aka Challenger league will be played online in NA and EU. What about premier aka Code S in NA and EU? Is it also online? If not how will players be playing it daily when they are all over inland Europe/America?
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I wonder how popular the World Football Championship would be if it was 90% Spain clubs. Generally, a way to increase popularity of a sport or game in a country, is to have someone from that place to play at the top level. The whole country roots from him, and get to know the sport / game better.
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On April 03 2013 23:26 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2013 23:17 Incomplet wrote:
I've never quite understood the phobia people have of Korean dominance.
Because you cant relate to the person? Get to know them! Read their interviews, check out their liquidpedias, and go watch the bloody GSL, I guarantee you that this will the best well spent money you have ever spent!
Or is it because of the Koreans have no personality stereotype? 5 mins of searching through google or TL will prove yourself wrong. It's not hard to find a funny GIF of a Korean doing silly celebrations which no foreigners have never dared do in the public eye.
Or is it mindless patriotism for their country folks? C'mon this is a computer game, are you really liking a certain player because he merely from the same country as you? Who cares about that, don't let patriotism / racism cloud your judgement of what truly entertaining and skilllful sc2 games are.
Koreans already dominate the scene as it is, in the worse case scenario, nothing will change and the dominance will continue. But maybe, just MAYBE, this could help give that motivational push to drive the foreign players to work harder. At the very least, rather than giving in to your reflex action to automatically dismiss all drastic changes in defence, just let it play out for a bit before passing judgement. Lol @ bringing the racism word into discussions about people rooting for their own country rather than Koreans. It's called being a fan, you choose your favorite, usually based on proximity, and root for them rather than rooting for whoever has the most skill from month to month. It's only natural to have pride about where you're from, and its just unintelligent to use the word racism here.
Proud losers. In sc2, it would make more sense to barrack for someone who impresses you with their play style or personality. Not what country they are bloody from. Despicable.
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On April 03 2013 23:29 NightOfTheDead wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2013 23:24 Proseat wrote:On April 03 2013 23:19 sitromit wrote:On April 03 2013 23:07 Proseat wrote:On April 03 2013 23:01 DiMano wrote:On April 03 2013 22:58 Qikz wrote:On April 03 2013 22:55 DiMano wrote:
GSL and OSL is the same tournament with same players and top 8 Code S GSL players will be seeded in OSL? If yes it is stupid as then there is no difference at all. They're different tournaments, they both just feed into the same tournament. See for example a school system. You have 2 primary schools (6-11) which then feed into the same senior school (11-17) which doesn't mean they're the same schools they come from, just that they end up in the same place. Well my question is will all players start from Code B to qualify for OSL or not? It was mentioned (on Twitter I believe) that OnGameNet will hold a special qualifier to fill up the Ro32. Fill up because I still think that GSL and OSL will be interconnected because they're both basically the same tournament called WCS Korea. No, OSL is just another GSL season with a different name, produced by OGN basically. There is no separate qualifier. There's only 1 Code A and Code S for both tournaments. Whichever players finish top 8 in this season of GSL will be in OSL's Code S or Premier League with the new name Blizzard gave it. The rest will come from this season's Code A, just like it does from one season of GSL to the next. The same thing will happen from OSL to the next season of GSL. Basically, OSL = what GSL Season 3 would have been, produced by OGN, GSL Season 3 = what GSL Season 4 would have been. That's what I was assuming as well (see my earlier posts in here). But then there was this in the gamespot.com article: The tournament structure has been modeled off of GSL's Code S, Code A, and Code B system and is called Premier, Challenger, and Qualifier. This structure will run for all partners including MLG and ESL. The Challenger events will run slightly different in North America and Europe due to logistics in travel. Players will be able to move up and down within their own region as players do in GSL. Only the OSL will have differences, where there will be an additional Round of 32 added on played in a best of one format. So they say that Code A aka Challenger league will be played online in NA and EU. What about premier aka Code S in NA and EU? Is it also online? If not how will players be playing it daily when they are all over inland Europe/America?
Apparently, Ro16 onwards will be offline in all regions.
So WCS America at the MLG studios in New York / USA, WCS Europe at the ESL studios in Cologne / Germany.
From the same article:
All matches in Korea will be played in studio through GomTV's StarLeague or OnGameNet's StarLeague, while North America and Europe will play Online until the top 16 players. Those top 16 players will compete in a studio environment to determine the best five players in each region.
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On April 03 2013 23:29 NightOfTheDead wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2013 23:24 Proseat wrote:On April 03 2013 23:19 sitromit wrote:On April 03 2013 23:07 Proseat wrote:On April 03 2013 23:01 DiMano wrote:On April 03 2013 22:58 Qikz wrote:On April 03 2013 22:55 DiMano wrote:
GSL and OSL is the same tournament with same players and top 8 Code S GSL players will be seeded in OSL? If yes it is stupid as then there is no difference at all. They're different tournaments, they both just feed into the same tournament. See for example a school system. You have 2 primary schools (6-11) which then feed into the same senior school (11-17) which doesn't mean they're the same schools they come from, just that they end up in the same place. Well my question is will all players start from Code B to qualify for OSL or not? It was mentioned (on Twitter I believe) that OnGameNet will hold a special qualifier to fill up the Ro32. Fill up because I still think that GSL and OSL will be interconnected because they're both basically the same tournament called WCS Korea. No, OSL is just another GSL season with a different name, produced by OGN basically. There is no separate qualifier. There's only 1 Code A and Code S for both tournaments. Whichever players finish top 8 in this season of GSL will be in OSL's Code S or Premier League with the new name Blizzard gave it. The rest will come from this season's Code A, just like it does from one season of GSL to the next. The same thing will happen from OSL to the next season of GSL. Basically, OSL = what GSL Season 3 would have been, produced by OGN, GSL Season 3 = what GSL Season 4 would have been. That's what I was assuming as well (see my earlier posts in here). But then there was this in the gamespot.com article: The tournament structure has been modeled off of GSL's Code S, Code A, and Code B system and is called Premier, Challenger, and Qualifier. This structure will run for all partners including MLG and ESL. The Challenger events will run slightly different in North America and Europe due to logistics in travel. Players will be able to move up and down within their own region as players do in GSL. Only the OSL will have differences, where there will be an additional Round of 32 added on played in a best of one format. So they say that Code A aka Challenger league will be played online in NA and EU. What about premier aka Code S in NA and EU? Is it also online? If not how will players be playing it daily when they are all over inland Europe/America?
As I understand it the ro16 and on of Premier will be played in a studio
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On April 03 2013 23:12 StarVe wrote:
I'll really miss the WCS nationals as they really gave off a grassroots vibe, I'll miss Code S being as frequent as it was before and I'm sad that Code B and even Code A Koreans might have a much harder time now and we might see more retirements out of them.
But overall I think it's a good change that could help elevate all the different scenes to a new level. I'll refrain from further comments until we have more details on how exactly all the newly introduced leagues and events are going to work.
I don't think this effects the Code A/B Koreans much to be honest. Most of them couldn't go to foreign tournaments, so they only could play in the GSL, or tried to at least, for Code B players. There were already going to be only 4 GSL seasons this year, now we have 3 GSLs and 1 OSL which is really just another GSL season produced by OGN, so nothing has changed.
Sure, last year there was also a separate WCS tournament for Korea, but in the end the Code S players win it anyway. Last year we had Creator, HerO who was in Code S at the time, Parting, Rain, Curious etc. Miya was the only Code B player who got far, and that was a bit of a fluke.
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On April 03 2013 23:30 Incomplet wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2013 23:26 Doodsmack wrote:On April 03 2013 23:17 Incomplet wrote:
I've never quite understood the phobia people have of Korean dominance.
Because you cant relate to the person? Get to know them! Read their interviews, check out their liquidpedias, and go watch the bloody GSL, I guarantee you that this will the best well spent money you have ever spent!
Or is it because of the Koreans have no personality stereotype? 5 mins of searching through google or TL will prove yourself wrong. It's not hard to find a funny GIF of a Korean doing silly celebrations which no foreigners have never dared do in the public eye.
Or is it mindless patriotism for their country folks? C'mon this is a computer game, are you really liking a certain player because he merely from the same country as you? Who cares about that, don't let patriotism / racism cloud your judgement of what truly entertaining and skilllful sc2 games are.
Koreans already dominate the scene as it is, in the worse case scenario, nothing will change and the dominance will continue. But maybe, just MAYBE, this could help give that motivational push to drive the foreign players to work harder. At the very least, rather than giving in to your reflex action to automatically dismiss all drastic changes in defence, just let it play out for a bit before passing judgement. Lol @ bringing the racism word into discussions about people rooting for their own country rather than Koreans. It's called being a fan, you choose your favorite, usually based on proximity, and root for them rather than rooting for whoever has the most skill from month to month. It's only natural to have pride about where you're from, and its just unintelligent to use the word racism here. Proud losers. In sc2, it would make more sense to barrack for someone who impresses you with their play style or personality. Not what country they are bloody from. Despicable.
I think it's perfectly fair to root for your own country's players, especially if you're a fairly casual viewer. kind of like in the olympics. in general, you root for your country, not for the personalities of individual athletes etc
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On April 03 2013 23:30 Apolo wrote:
I wonder how popular the World Football Championship would be if it was 90% Spain clubs. Generally, a way to increase popularity of a sport or game in a country, is to have someone from that place to play at the top level. The whole country roots from him, and get to know the sport / game better.
Yeah I guess this is true. SC2 needs an NA savior!
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On April 03 2013 23:23 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2013 23:20 TheSir wrote:On April 03 2013 23:15 opterown wrote:On April 03 2013 23:14 TheSir wrote:On April 03 2013 22:53 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On April 03 2013 22:46 DOUDOU wrote:On April 03 2013 22:42 chipmonklord17 wrote:On April 03 2013 22:38 Bagi wrote:On April 03 2013 22:36 DOUDOU wrote:
someone tell me
WHERE THE HELL is dreamhack in all of this? Independent tournament where players from all regions can partake and most likely also get some WCS points in the process. I think people are downplaying the importance of events that got "left out", they will still be as good as ever and best of all there will be no artificial restrictions to their player pools. What I'm most curious about is does all this working together stuff mean that dreamhack's (I guess NASL's too) player pool actually increases and that they can get kespa guys to play in their events too i am worried independent tournaments will receive much less attention, same way it does for lol i believe if gom and ogn can alternate hosting of the events, why can't IEM and DH do? afaik, DH production is world class, and certainly much better than ogn also, what happens to my ogn subscription Dreamhack player pools are usually poor though. Define poor.... and with Dreamhack being basically the only open big 'LAN' event left where are teams going to send their players to otherwise? look at the player pool for Stockholm this year and last year.... DH does only benefit from this WCS if you can also score points at Dreamhack. MLG and IEM etc still exist as weekend tournaments I know but MLG has no open spots so you dont need a travel budget for that as a team anymore. IEM doesn't start until August? and most spots are paid as well with a small open bracket. There aren't a lot of tournaments left you need travel money for... IPL gone, ASUS ROG gone? etc etc i don't think IEM actually pays for travel does it? MLG might change back, i have no idea how the format will be like in the future
IEM prize distribution has prize money for all players, the bottom prize money is paid as travel costs at the event to all players
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On April 03 2013 23:23 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2013 23:20 TheSir wrote:On April 03 2013 23:15 opterown wrote:On April 03 2013 23:14 TheSir wrote:On April 03 2013 22:53 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On April 03 2013 22:46 DOUDOU wrote:On April 03 2013 22:42 chipmonklord17 wrote:On April 03 2013 22:38 Bagi wrote:On April 03 2013 22:36 DOUDOU wrote:
someone tell me
WHERE THE HELL is dreamhack in all of this? Independent tournament where players from all regions can partake and most likely also get some WCS points in the process. I think people are downplaying the importance of events that got "left out", they will still be as good as ever and best of all there will be no artificial restrictions to their player pools. What I'm most curious about is does all this working together stuff mean that dreamhack's (I guess NASL's too) player pool actually increases and that they can get kespa guys to play in their events too i am worried independent tournaments will receive much less attention, same way it does for lol i believe if gom and ogn can alternate hosting of the events, why can't IEM and DH do? afaik, DH production is world class, and certainly much better than ogn also, what happens to my ogn subscription Dreamhack player pools are usually poor though. Define poor.... and with Dreamhack being basically the only open big 'LAN' event left where are teams going to send their players to otherwise? look at the player pool for Stockholm this year and last year.... DH does only benefit from this WCS if you can also score points at Dreamhack. MLG and IEM etc still exist as weekend tournaments I know but MLG has no open spots so you dont need a travel budget for that as a team anymore. IEM doesn't start until August? and most spots are paid as well with a small open bracket. There aren't a lot of tournaments left you need travel money for... IPL gone, ASUS ROG gone? etc etc i don't think IEM actually pays for travel does it? MLG might change back, i have no idea how the format will be like in the future
Im pretty sure IEM pays if you win a seed in the qualifiers (and usually there a more qualified seeded players then players who enter the open bracket) and as far as i know, this year there will be no open bracket at MLG.
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On April 03 2013 23:24 Proseat wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2013 23:19 sitromit wrote:On April 03 2013 23:07 Proseat wrote:On April 03 2013 23:01 DiMano wrote:On April 03 2013 22:58 Qikz wrote:On April 03 2013 22:55 DiMano wrote:
GSL and OSL is the same tournament with same players and top 8 Code S GSL players will be seeded in OSL? If yes it is stupid as then there is no difference at all. They're different tournaments, they both just feed into the same tournament. See for example a school system. You have 2 primary schools (6-11) which then feed into the same senior school (11-17) which doesn't mean they're the same schools they come from, just that they end up in the same place. Well my question is will all players start from Code B to qualify for OSL or not? It was mentioned (on Twitter I believe) that OnGameNet will hold a special qualifier to fill up the Ro32. Fill up because I still think that GSL and OSL will be interconnected because they're both basically the same tournament called WCS Korea. No, OSL is just another GSL season with a different name, produced by OGN basically. There is no separate qualifier. There's only 1 Code A and Code S for both tournaments. Whichever players finish top 8 in this season of GSL will be in OSL's Code S or Premier League with the new name Blizzard gave it. The rest will come from this season's Code A, just like it does from one season of GSL to the next. The same thing will happen from OSL to the next season of GSL. Basically, OSL = what GSL Season 3 would have been, produced by OGN, GSL Season 3 = what GSL Season 4 would have been. That's what I was assuming as well (see my earlier posts in here). But then there was this in the gamespot.com article: The tournament structure has been modeled off of GSL's Code S, Code A, and Code B system and is called Premier, Challenger, and Qualifier. This structure will run for all partners including MLG and ESL. The Challenger events will run slightly different in North America and Europe due to logistics in travel. Players will be able to move up and down within their own region as players do in GSL. Only the OSL will have differences, where there will be an additional Round of 32 added on played in a best of one format.
Hmm, I don't know about the bolded part. For there to be continuity, they can't use 2 different formats for GSL and OSL. How can they tack on a bo1 ro32 to the GSL format without breaking it? And bo1 sounds just awful.
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Im pumped for this, cant wait to see foreigners actually competing in foreigner tournaments. If money is there for the foreigners, than they deserve it. The world doesnt owe Koreans anything, they have there own tournaments.
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On April 03 2013 23:33 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2013 23:30 Incomplet wrote:On April 03 2013 23:26 Doodsmack wrote:On April 03 2013 23:17 Incomplet wrote:
I've never quite understood the phobia people have of Korean dominance.
Because you cant relate to the person? Get to know them! Read their interviews, check out their liquidpedias, and go watch the bloody GSL, I guarantee you that this will the best well spent money you have ever spent!
Or is it because of the Koreans have no personality stereotype? 5 mins of searching through google or TL will prove yourself wrong. It's not hard to find a funny GIF of a Korean doing silly celebrations which no foreigners have never dared do in the public eye.
Or is it mindless patriotism for their country folks? C'mon this is a computer game, are you really liking a certain player because he merely from the same country as you? Who cares about that, don't let patriotism / racism cloud your judgement of what truly entertaining and skilllful sc2 games are.
Koreans already dominate the scene as it is, in the worse case scenario, nothing will change and the dominance will continue. But maybe, just MAYBE, this could help give that motivational push to drive the foreign players to work harder. At the very least, rather than giving in to your reflex action to automatically dismiss all drastic changes in defence, just let it play out for a bit before passing judgement. Lol @ bringing the racism word into discussions about people rooting for their own country rather than Koreans. It's called being a fan, you choose your favorite, usually based on proximity, and root for them rather than rooting for whoever has the most skill from month to month. It's only natural to have pride about where you're from, and its just unintelligent to use the word racism here. Proud losers. In sc2, it would make more sense to barrack for someone who impresses you with their play style or personality. Not what country they are bloody from. Despicable. I think it's perfectly fair to root for your own country's players, especially if you're a fairly casual viewer. kind of like in the olympics. in general, you root for your country, not for the personalities of individual athletes etc
This is not the Olympics though.
Of course I understand what I say will not change the fact people will mindlessly barrack for their own country no matter the sport. But I still find it disgusting that the mindless sheep will always just follow what is familiar to them with no sense of autonomy what so ever to make a rational decision on what is truly important in the characteristics of each player.
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On April 03 2013 23:39 sitromit wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2013 23:24 Proseat wrote:On April 03 2013 23:19 sitromit wrote:On April 03 2013 23:07 Proseat wrote:On April 03 2013 23:01 DiMano wrote:On April 03 2013 22:58 Qikz wrote:On April 03 2013 22:55 DiMano wrote:
GSL and OSL is the same tournament with same players and top 8 Code S GSL players will be seeded in OSL? If yes it is stupid as then there is no difference at all. They're different tournaments, they both just feed into the same tournament. See for example a school system. You have 2 primary schools (6-11) which then feed into the same senior school (11-17) which doesn't mean they're the same schools they come from, just that they end up in the same place. Well my question is will all players start from Code B to qualify for OSL or not? It was mentioned (on Twitter I believe) that OnGameNet will hold a special qualifier to fill up the Ro32. Fill up because I still think that GSL and OSL will be interconnected because they're both basically the same tournament called WCS Korea. No, OSL is just another GSL season with a different name, produced by OGN basically. There is no separate qualifier. There's only 1 Code A and Code S for both tournaments. Whichever players finish top 8 in this season of GSL will be in OSL's Code S or Premier League with the new name Blizzard gave it. The rest will come from this season's Code A, just like it does from one season of GSL to the next. The same thing will happen from OSL to the next season of GSL. Basically, OSL = what GSL Season 3 would have been, produced by OGN, GSL Season 3 = what GSL Season 4 would have been. That's what I was assuming as well (see my earlier posts in here). But then there was this in the gamespot.com article: The tournament structure has been modeled off of GSL's Code S, Code A, and Code B system and is called Premier, Challenger, and Qualifier. This structure will run for all partners including MLG and ESL. The Challenger events will run slightly different in North America and Europe due to logistics in travel. Players will be able to move up and down within their own region as players do in GSL. Only the OSL will have differences, where there will be an additional Round of 32 added on played in a best of one format. Hmm, I don't know about the bolded part. For there to be continuity, they can't use 2 different formats for GSL and OSL. How can they tack on a bo1 ro32 to the GSL format without breaking it? And bo1 sounds just awful.
That's what I'm wondering myself. Maybe this is their version of Code B qualifiers? Although that would be strange.
Possibly a one-time thing? Oh well, I guess we'll see eventually.
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